New system won't boot windows.

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Adelphia

I recently purchaced a new motherboard, memory and processor. I have
replaced these things in other computers of mine before and windows xp had
always just accepted it and kept on moving. So this is the scenario:

(sorry, it is a bit long, I want to be thorough)

I unhooked everything from my old computer, removed the board from the
chassis, put the new board in, new memory, new processor, heating system,
etc, reattached the cables in the same order (primary master, slave,
secondary slave, power to everything, few other things such as a cable going
from my front panel audigy to it's PCI card, etc), and loaded. Well, it did
load, first try. Came up, I immediately entered bios, checked the system
configuration, and it found everything it was supposed to find, it found all
of the IDE drive, identified the new memory, and the new ram. So I
continued on and let it attempt to boot windows. It passes the "verifying
DMI" stage, screen goes blank (usually this is when it loads the windows
splash screen, I'm pretty sure), and then the computer resets. I repeated
this procedure about 15 times to make sure it was reoccuring. I also
attempted to boot into the three versions of safemode, all of which amount
to the same effect as loading windows.. resetting.

Did switching motherboards on windows some how move windows entry point or
something similar? Anyone know a fix, besides running the "repair" on the
windows CD which re-installs windows (I know it leaves all of the data on
the disk and just rewrites files, and then reruns setup, but there are
multiple reasons I would rather not do that).

Thanks for reading, I know it was a long post, looking forward to any help I
can get.

~Chris Martin
 
Your problem revolves around the motherboard drivers for the
new board, which aren't there, while the old ones still are.
At this point you either do a repair or put the old board back in
and then delete all the the device drivers for the old mobo.
 
Adelphia said:
I recently purchaced a new motherboard, memory and processor. I have
replaced these things in other computers of mine before and windows
xp had always just accepted it and kept on moving. So this is the
scenario:

(sorry, it is a bit long, I want to be thorough)

I unhooked everything from my old computer, removed the board from the
chassis, put the new board in, new memory, new processor, heating
system, etc, reattached the cables in the same order (primary master,
slave, secondary slave, power to everything, few other things such as
a cable going from my front panel audigy to it's PCI card, etc), and
loaded. Well, it did load, first try. Came up, I immediately
entered bios, checked the system configuration, and it found
everything it was supposed to find, it found all of the IDE drive,
identified the new memory, and the new ram. So I continued on and
let it attempt to boot windows. It passes the "verifying DMI" stage,
screen goes blank (usually this is when it loads the windows splash
screen, I'm pretty sure), and then the computer resets. I repeated
this procedure about 15 times to make sure it was reoccuring. I also
attempted to boot into the three versions of safemode, all of which
amount to the same effect as loading windows.. resetting.

Did switching motherboards on windows some how move windows entry
point or something similar? Anyone know a fix, besides running the
"repair" on the windows CD which re-installs windows (I know it
leaves all of the data on the disk and just rewrites files, and then
reruns setup, but there are multiple reasons I would rather not do
that).

Thanks for reading, I know it was a long post, looking forward to any
help I can get.

~Chris Martin
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Why don't you want to run a repair? That's the easiest way of fixing this.
 
If you change the motherboard in a Windows XP system then you MUST reformat
the harddrive and do a fresh install of XP, otherwise you get ongoing nasty
Registry errors as you have found out.
 
Adelphia said:
I recently purchaced a new motherboard, memory and processor. I have
replaced these things in other computers of mine before and windows xp had
always just accepted it and kept on moving. So this is the scenario:

(sorry, it is a bit long, I want to be thorough)
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Thanks for reading, I know it was a long post, looking forward to any help I
can get.

~Chris Martin
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Now would be a GREAT time to try a LiveCD of Knoppix, that boots from
the CD, runs in RAM! See if it can find all your new resources!
It also will confirm that your new system is AOK! (I will be checking
back, to see if you encountered any error messages).

http://knopper.net/knoppix
 
The Prophecy said:
Why don't you want to run a repair? That's the easiest way of fixing this.
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Two main reasons - I no longer have my windows key, and I have absolutely no
idea what my admin password was.. it requires it to do the "repair".
 
Larry Fine said:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000474.htm


help
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Having problems with a boot disk. I used another computer to make a boot
disk.. it was a windows xp home computer, but the OS on the computer I'm
trying to boot is a windows xp pro.. would the boot disk be a problem? The
computer won't boot fromt he disk, it just gives an invalid disk error when
it attempts to read it. Ideas?

~Chris
 
JT said:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
Will let you reset your administrator password. You might also want to get
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
and put it on a cd. Tons of useful tools, including NT Password/registry
tool listed above on a self booting CD.

JT
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I know XP has an NT base on it, but will the NT Password/registry tool in
that program work for windows xp pro? So far, that's my best bet.. boy I'm
lucky I have lots of computers and cd writers to make boot disks with! Off
to work.. just finished my last class for my associates degree this morning!
Sorry, that was off topic, but I would rather be here working on this
computer then heading off to work right now. Thanks again for the help,
everyone.

~Chris
 
Adelphia said:
absolutely

I know XP has an NT base on it, but will the NT Password/registry tool in
that program work for windows xp pro? So far, that's my best bet.. boy I'm
lucky I have lots of computers and cd writers to make boot disks with! Off
to work.. just finished my last class for my associates degree this morning!
Sorry, that was off topic, but I would rather be here working on this
computer then heading off to work right now. Thanks again for the help,
everyone.

~Chris
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If I was to plug my old motherboard back in and get everything nominal on
the previous settings, how would I go about loading the new settings? I
couldn't just remove all the motherboard drivers and install the new ones
while it's still on the old one, could I? Or do I remove the, install the
new ones, and the settings don't take effect until the next time you boot..
so I then shut down, flip out the board to the new one and then load with
the new settings?..

Really, off to work with me now, looking forward to replies, thanks again,

~Chris
 
I know XP has an NT base on it, but will the NT Password/registry tool in
that program work for windows xp pro? So far, that's my best bet.. boy I'm
lucky I have lots of computers and cd writers to make boot disks with! Off
to work.. just finished my last class for my associates degree this morning!
Sorry, that was off topic, but I would rather be here working on this
computer then heading off to work right now. Thanks again for the help,
everyone.

~Chris
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Works with XP Pro. There are some limitations, but nothing you are likely
to run into. Your best bet, the one that always works for me, is to use the
program to clear the admin password. Once you get everything working, do a
new admin password. Also, by default on XP (pro or home) the administrator
account has no password. They hid the administrator account from the logon
menu, and hope that no one notices it.

JT
 
If you re-install the old board, you merely download and save
to disk the new drivers. Delete the old stuff close down, install
new board and let xp discover the new hardware.

 
If I was to plug my old motherboard back in and get everything nominal on
the previous settings, how would I go about loading the new settings?
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First...once there...use the program given in another post to find
your key...and make a note of it.
I couldn't just remove all the motherboard drivers and install the new ones
while it's still on the old one, could I?
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Copy the entire CD to your hard drive...in case the drivers don't work
for the cdrom. Then install the drivers as you suggest. You can
check out where the drivers are now...for the controllers, etc. Then
put the new drivers there also.
Or do I remove the, install the
new ones, and the settings don't take effect until the next time you boot..
so I then shut down, flip out the board to the new one and then load with
the new settings?..
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You should need to delete anything. Just boot into the new
mainboard...and hopefully xp will find the board okay this time.

I wouldn't install more peripherals than you absolutely need...until
you get things up and running. Then install all the other junk.

Good luck.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
 
When you put in new hardware and leave in old drives the OS is still looking
for the old hardware because the drivers are all there for the old
motherboard and its features as well as any onboard stuff. Without doing
anything to change this information it is even possible to get a Windows
Protection error but in any case it is not surprising that it doesn't finish
booting. If you must have the hard drives exactly as they are at least get
a brand new hdd and make it the primary drive and do a fresh format and OS
install on it. If for any reason you cannot do this then the other option
is what you don't want to do.
 
JT said:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
Will let you reset your administrator password. You might also want to get
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
and put it on a cd. Tons of useful tools, including NT Password/registry
tool listed above on a self booting CD.

JT
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"DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
If used on users that have EFS encrypted files, and the system is XP or
later service packs on win2k, all encrypted files for that user will be
UNREADABLE! and cannot be recovered unless you remember the old password
again"

is posted ont he web page for the password reset program.. EFS encrypted
files specifiacally are what? I previously had none of my program
information or data hidden/encrypted (unless some of it is defaulted to be
encypted by windows). If I run this, will I not be able to access anything
from my last user on XP (sadly, I think I was running from admin, even
though I know I should have created a second user and left the admin to
itself =0P ). If I will lose the information, I'm gonna have to find
another way... but if it won't lock anything, I'm all for giving this a try.
I'm off work tomorrow, so the great computer fix extravaganza will start.

I'm seriously thinking of just plugging the power supply and required
peripherals back into my not unmounted motherboard. But I'm still a bit
confused about the process ( I know I asked basically this same question
before, I'm looking for more reassurance :) ).

Once I put the old board back on and boot into my previous system, I just go
into control panel and uninstall the motherboard drivers, correct?

And then, when it asks me if I want to restart, I tell it "no", and then
install the new motherboard drivers, and then SHUT DOWN the computer, swap
boards, and then boot?

Is that correct or am I missing something?

Thanks again for the posts and suggestions, everyone, as well as for putting
up with me through this "time of trouble".. man I can't wait until this
thing is up and running.

~Chris... again.
 
No, uninstall the drivers, then SHUT DOWN.
Then you connect the new mobo and let XP discover
all the new hardware.Make nsure you have XP drivers for everything.
 
"DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
If used on users that have EFS encrypted files, and the system is XP or
later service packs on win2k, all encrypted files for that user will be
UNREADABLE! and cannot be recovered unless you remember the old password
again"
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If you used EFS, and the user that owned the EFS encrypted files was the
administrator, then you would loose access to the files. If you were using
EFS as a different user than administrator, then you would still be able to
access them as long as you only reset the administrator password. As an
average XP user, you are unlikely to be using EFS. If you were, you would
know it.
is posted ont he web page for the password reset program.. EFS encrypted
files specifiacally are what? I previously had none of my program
information or data hidden/encrypted (unless some of it is defaulted to be
encypted by windows). If I run this, will I not be able to access anything
from my last user on XP (sadly, I think I was running from admin, even
though I know I should have created a second user and left the admin to
itself =0P ). If I will lose the information, I'm gonna have to find
another way... but if it won't lock anything, I'm all for giving this a try.
I'm off work tomorrow, so the great computer fix extravaganza will start.
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You should be able to access everything. You only want to change
administrator password. Won't affect any other users passwords or settings.
I'm seriously thinking of just plugging the power supply and required
peripherals back into my not unmounted motherboard. But I'm still a bit
confused about the process ( I know I asked basically this same question
before, I'm looking for more reassurance :) ).

Once I put the old board back on and boot into my previous system, I just go
into control panel and uninstall the motherboard drivers, correct?
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Worked that way with 9x/ME. Not the same under XP/2K/NT. Probably won't
really let you uninstall anything
And then, when it asks me if I want to restart, I tell it "no", and then
install the new motherboard drivers, and then SHUT DOWN the computer, swap
boards, and then boot?
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You can't really install the drivers while still connected to the old
motherboard. Most of them will not be seperate from the XP installation CD.
Most XP installations require no drivers ouside of what XP has, unless you
have a very new Video card or HD controller. XP will install its new
drivers on boot up. Maybe.
Is that correct or am I missing something?
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The method recommended by Microsoft, and that seems to work is to do a
repair install. You will need the administrator password, and your product
key. The program I listed will fix the password problem. Others have listed
programs that can recover the very important product key.
Thanks again for the posts and suggestions, everyone, as well as for putting
up with me through this "time of trouble".. man I can't wait until this
thing is up and running.

~Chris... again.
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JT
 
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