"New Pull" Hardware ?

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Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.

Ive been shopping around for an older Intel P4 Northwood CPU.

The CPU Ive been looking for Ive seen advertised as a "New Pull" OEM.

As far as I can tell "New Pull" means Used. Of course retailers like to
say its "like brand new" or been barely used and of course they dont
want to quantify "how used" these CPU's are.

What has your experience been with these items?

Basically you have 7 days from the invoice to verify it works to get
your money back. That basically means you have 1 or 2 days to stick it
on your board since UPS ground takes up to 5 days.

Is there Free BENCHMARK software you can use to run a CPU through its
paces to verify its running OK? Anything you would recommend?

Are there any online charts to compare benchmark results against?

Whats your experience been with OEM hardware and Warranties?

Ive seen online information saying the Intel OEM CPU's are warrantied
from 30-90 days. Ive also seen information saying that Intel OEM CPU's
are not warrantied unless you send a matching heat sink and fan along
with the CPU. Is this True?

This is my first build so Im trying to figure out whats what.

Thanks for your input.

Teknowbabble
 
Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.
Ive been shopping around for an older Intel P4 Northwood CPU.
The CPU Ive been looking for Ive seen advertised as a "New Pull"
OEM. As far as I can tell "New Pull" means Used. Of course
retailers like to say its "like brand new" or been barely used and
of course they dont want to quantify "how used" these CPU's are.
What has your experience been with these items?
Basically you have 7 days from the invoice to verify it works to
get your money back. That basically means you have 1 or 2 days to
stick it on your board since UPS ground takes up to 5 days.
Is there Free BENCHMARK software you can use to run a CPU through
its paces to verify its running OK? Anything you would recommend?
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I've never heard the term "New Pull" before. Of course maybe others
have. It's definitely not common, maybe not even used, among the
online stores I buy parts from.

I would recommend buying from a reputable store.

What store are you talking about?

You get what you pay for.

You might want to try
ZipZoomFly.com
NewEgg.com
and maybe others suggested in this group that go without popular
condemnation.
Whats your experience been with OEM hardware
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Original Equipment Manufacturer OEM hardware from a reputable online
store is fine.

Good luck.
 
Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.

Ive been shopping around for an older Intel P4 Northwood CPU.

The CPU Ive been looking for Ive seen advertised as a "New Pull" OEM.

As far as I can tell "New Pull" means Used. Of course retailers like to
say its "like brand new" or been barely used and of course they dont
want to quantify "how used" these CPU's are.
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"Pull" means it was removed from some piece of equipment. I.E. 'pulled'
from it. "New pull" means they supposedly pulled it from an unsold system
so, in theory anyway, it's sorta unused.
What has your experience been with these items?
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I've bought pulls as long as there was a warranty. Not a lot but all
worked, so far.

Basically you have 7 days from the invoice to verify it works to get
your money back. That basically means you have 1 or 2 days to stick it
on your board since UPS ground takes up to 5 days.
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7 days is a bit short depending on whether you read it right. Some say 7
days (usually from receipt) for refund (minus a restock fee if it wasn't
defective) but 30 days (from invoice) for replacement.
Is there Free BENCHMARK software you can use to run a CPU through its
paces to verify its running OK? Anything you would recommend?
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Google for one but if it powers up and runs it's ok.
Are there any online charts to compare benchmark results against?

Whats your experience been with OEM hardware and Warranties?

Ive seen online information saying the Intel OEM CPU's are warrantied
from 30-90 days. Ive also seen information saying that Intel OEM CPU's
are not warrantied unless you send a matching heat sink and fan along
with the CPU. Is this True?
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Well, yes and no. Intel warrants retail boxed CPUs but not OEM CPUs. The
OEM does that and it's why they're cheaper. Whatever warranty *you* end up
with on an OEM processor is whatever the OEM offers and it could be any of
the things you say you've seen.
 
Anonymouswrote
Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware
This is my first build so Im trying to figure out whats what

Thanks for your input

Teknowbabbl
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I'm just curious, if this is your first build, why would you go wit
Intel? First of all they're more expensive, but more importantly; i
they don't do some serious R&D and I mean quick; they're about t
be laughed off the planet. They and Apple, truly deserve on
another. Fringe, and the definition of fringe.

This week Intel's not even a processor company, they're a platfor
company. Did you hear that? Just asking..

Anyway, pull items are things pulled out of new machines. This i
common when a computer is pre-built and an order comes in for
slight change. Normally, this would be a DVD drive, or Hard Drive.
To actually pull a processor, I'd say the box has been laying aroun
a while and it's more expediant ($$$) to just upgrade that, then t
start from scratch

Pulling processors I would think to be pretty rare. The processo
determines the motherboard, not the other way around. Changes on th
processors would have to be pretty small since they're slaved by th
platform itself. Most White box houses just pull them and use the
on something else. They don't even call it a pull, they call it
new processor. So, I do wonder where these "pulls" you're talkin
about are actually coming from

You don't want any Chineese junk. They generally take slowe
processors and re-badge them as something they're not. While this i
more an AMD issue, because of the demand for high performanc
processors; I'm sure Intel has the same problems. Just less public

Since this is your first build, it's very important not to screw it u
over a few dollars. It might sour you on future builds

Since it's a processor, it's pretty safe to say; if it works, it'll b
fine. I'd just want to make sure you have it set up properly in th
bios, and use System Information in the System Tools library t
verify that it is running at it's "rated" speed

Don't like the 7 day warranty though. If it's really a pull, why jus
7 days? That might give me pause

I generally use pricewatch.com for buying processors. Or, look fo
sales at some of the reputable online stores. There are many

Best of luck to yo

Sorry about the Intel bit, nothing personal. I've used AMD since th
first K6-2's and it's nice to see the press finally catching up t
what we've been saying all along. I couldn't resist..
 
It is further alleged that on or about 30 Dec 2005 21:48:43 -0800, in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of
(e-mail address removed) spewed the following:

|Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.
|
|Ive been shopping around for an older Intel P4 Northwood CPU.
|
|The CPU Ive been looking for Ive seen advertised as a "New Pull" OEM.
|
|As far as I can tell "New Pull" means Used. Of course retailers like to
|say its "like brand new" or been barely used and of course they dont
|want to quantify "how used" these CPU's are.
|
|What has your experience been with these items?
|
|Basically you have 7 days from the invoice to verify it works to get
|your money back. That basically means you have 1 or 2 days to stick it
|on your board since UPS ground takes up to 5 days.
|
|Is there Free BENCHMARK software you can use to run a CPU through its
|paces to verify its running OK? Anything you would recommend?

There are lots of benchmarking programs out there.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads4.html
Whetstone is good, as is PCMark and CliBench mk III smp all freeware.

|
|Are there any online charts to compare benchmark results against?
|
|Whats your experience been with OEM hardware and Warranties?
|
|Ive seen online information saying the Intel OEM CPU's are warrantied
|from 30-90 days. Ive also seen information saying that Intel OEM CPU's
|are not warrantied unless you send a matching heat sink and fan along
|with the CPU. Is this True?
|
|This is my first build so Im trying to figure out whats what.
FWIW, the warranty time is usually exclusive of the shipping time. If
something is not right with whatever you buy, you usually have x
number of days to contact the vendor and get an RMA. If you have any
questions regarding possible returns, you should contact the vendor
before you buy and ask them to state their return policy on the
invoice.
If the "new pull" CPU you were looking at was here:
http://www.directron.com/p428512.html They have a 30 day warranty and
are a reputable company.
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of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when
the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back
that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd
as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group
keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In
much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the
slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know,
kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest
brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer
eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and
more efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter after
a few beers.
 
dannysdailys said:
Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.

I'm just curious, if this is your first build, why would you go with
Intel? First of all they're more expensive, but more importantly; if
they don't do some serious R&D and I mean quick; they're about to
be laughed off the planet. They and Apple, truly deserve one
another. Fringe, and the definition of fringe.
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Your joking right? INTEL is on the 'fringe'?
 
Is there Free BENCHMARK software you can use to run a CPU through its
paces to verify its running OK? Anything you would recommend?
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You could try looking for a program called cpu_burn-in. At least that
is the name of the file I downloaded at the time. I've had to program
over a year, you see. Anyway, it's used to stress test CPUs (put them
under a heavy processing load). Not sure how easy it is to get hold of
now.
 
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Id like to know what people think of "New Pull" hardware.
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Personally, I buy a lot of refurbed stuff (including pulls, returns, and
factory refurbs) -- As long as there is a good return policy and
warranty, it's all good.

I've never gotten burned.
 
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