New P2B rev.1.10 question

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Bolooser11

Good evening,
Trying to do something with this board I got yesterday.
Now, I have the user's manual I got on the Asus site and printed
about the hard ware set up jumpers for the bus.
I think it's the manual for rev.1.02 or whatever but it does not correspond
to my board.
In the manual are stated jumpers positions FSO FS1 FS2
and, on my board, there is an additional FS3.
So, can anyone help me with this ?
I don't know how to deal with the FS3, ignore it or reposition the jumpers ?
I am trying to have the board fire up with a PII , flash the bios and run it
with a slot T in it.
Thank you
Take care
 
Bolooser11 said:
Good evening,
Trying to do something with this board I got yesterday.
Now, I have the user's manual I got on the Asus site and printed
about the hard ware set up jumpers for the bus.
I think it's the manual for rev.1.02 or whatever but it does not correspond
to my board.
In the manual are stated jumpers positions FSO FS1 FS2
and, on my board, there is an additional FS3.
So, can anyone help me with this ?
I don't know how to deal with the FS3, ignore it or reposition the jumpers ?
I am trying to have the board fire up with a PII , flash the bios and run it
with a slot T in it.
Click to expand...

You could download a newer manual, for instance here:
ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/HANDBUCH/Motherboard/Slot_I/INTEL_Chipset/

The jumper positions should also be silk-screened somewhere on the pcb.

Roland

(btw if you want to run a tualatin with that slot-t, it'll only work if
your board has the newer voltage regulator, since it's a rev. 1.10 it
might or might not have the newer regulator.)
 
Thanks a lot for helping me out on this.
I found the exact manual for the mobo.
Yes it does have the right voltage regulator
(according to Upgradeware).
Now I am going to try to fire it up with a Celeron 433
to begin with ;-)
Have a good day
 
Bolooser11 said:
Thanks a lot for helping me out on this.
I found the exact manual for the mobo.
Yes it does have the right voltage regulator
(according to Upgradeware).
Now I am going to try to fire it up with a Celeron 433
to begin with ;-)
Have a good day
Click to expand...

You have a board with a new voltage regulator & FS3 installed, and a
Slot-T, which gives you some very interesting possibilities :-)

You can set the FSB as high as 150Mhz, which I have found runs very
nicely if you install a processor, memory, and video card that work
reliably at 150Mhz. Increasing FSB on P2B boards is desirable because
the SDRAM soon becomes a bottleneck as processor speed increases.

Processor: Most 1Ghz Tualeron (aka 1A) processors will run at 1.5Ghz.
Some might require a Vcore increase from the specified 1.5v to 1.55v or
even 1.6v (don't go higher - it won't help and might damage the
processor). Some 1.1Ghz Tualerons will run at 1.65Ghz, but if FSB is the
goal, the 1A is more likely to run at 150.

Memory: Crucial PC133 CL2 usually runs fine at 150Mhz CL3. Corsair PC150
CL2 works even better, but it's expensive.

Video: The AGP bus runs at 100Mhz (overclocked from 66Mhz!) when FSB is
150Mhz. Video cards with nVidia chipsets usually tolerate the overclock,
others may not. My favourite P2B video card is the Asus GeForce2 MX.

Have fun, and let us know how it goes :-)

P2B
 
Good day,

Finished putting the board together last night
in an Enermax box with an Enermax PS, a Samsung HDD 4,3 gig,
a stick of 256 CL2 PC100 Crucial ram, a Sound Blaster 16 Isa, a
Radeon 7500 LE with 128 Lynix ram and a Celeron 433.
The Celeron 433 and the Samsung drive are in there temporarily as
I did not know which bios was installed.
It fired right up nicely except for the horrible hissing sound of the
Samsung HD.
Did Fdisk, Format C: and installed Win98SE then flashed the Bios (11
installed)
to version 1014.003.
No problem at all ;-)
Next step will be installing the Slot T with a Tualeron 1.1 and my 40 Gig
Maxtor 7200 RPM.
This board seems to be quite nice.
I surely don't regret the 15 euros I spent for it ;-)
Thank you and have a nice week end
 
Good day,
Installed the slot T and the Celeron 1.1.
On the first boot up screen the Celeron is recognized as PIII 1100
and there is a line: Rev.1014 Beta 003
On the second screen a line : Bios data incorrect CPUID 00000006B4 update
not loaded
and "Hardware monitor found an error, enter power management setup for
details"
So I do and find 'Err" behind "V core voltage :1,5"
behind Chassis fan speed xxx rpm (err)
behind CPU fans speed xxxrpm (err)
The reported mobo temp is 26°C/78°F
-----------
The VIO : I left the jumper on "default".
There is just another jumper setting for "test" which will raise it, it says
in the manual.
I have no other way (I have seen) to set the voltage.
------------
Now it can boot if I set to "ignore" the power management "err" lines.
I think "Bios data incorrect ..." comes from the lack of the Celeron 1100 in
the bios chapter ?
-------------
There is also a difficulty clearing the CMOS. I put a screwdriver on the 2
CLRTC soldering points
but it did'nt do it.
The main question to me is the voltage question as i do not understand the
need of raising it
as the Tualatin requires 1,5 and the older processors required much more ?
and i don't want to fry this board.
Thanks again







On the second screen there is the message
 
Bolooser11 said:
Good day,
Installed the slot T and the Celeron 1.1.
On the first boot up screen the Celeron is recognized as PIII 1100
and there is a line: Rev.1014 Beta 003
On the second screen a line : Bios data incorrect CPUID 00000006B4 update
not loaded
Click to expand...
This is because the bios doesn't have the microcode for this cpu
stepping (this bios only knows the older tualatin cpus). You can either
switch off microcode updates in the bios ("BIOS Update"), or you add the
microcode manually to your bios (described here,
http://tipperlinne.com/bios6b4.htm). Generally, it is considered to be a
good idea to have the correct microcode, but there seem to be no problem
at all if you don't have it.
and "Hardware monitor found an error, enter power management setup for
details"
So I do and find 'Err" behind "V core voltage :1,5"
behind Chassis fan speed xxx rpm (err)
behind CPU fans speed xxxrpm (err)
The reported mobo temp is 26°C/78°F
-----------
The VIO : I left the jumper on "default".
There is just another jumper setting for "test" which will raise it, it says
in the manual.
I have no other way (I have seen) to set the voltage.
Click to expand...
This is exactly what you should do. It's a bit unsure how the bios
determines what a correct voltage for a given cpu is, but obviously it's
wrong on tualatin cpus. No need at all to raise the voltage.

Roland
 
Bolooser11 said:
Good day,
Installed the slot T and the Celeron 1.1.
On the first boot up screen the Celeron is recognized as PIII 1100
and there is a line: Rev.1014 Beta 003
On the second screen a line : Bios data incorrect CPUID 00000006B4 update
not loaded
Click to expand...

This is to be expected; Asus "forgot" to include the 06B4 microcode
update for Tualatin processors in the BIOS. This is not critical, as
Intel specs state that a processor should run the same without the
microcode update.

I just hacked together a 1014.003 BIOS that does include the 06B4
microcode update. I sent the recepy to P2B, and I'm waiting for his
page to update :) I just flashed my own P2B rev 1.02 with and it was a
complete success!
and "Hardware monitor found an error, enter power management setup for
details"
So I do and find 'Err" behind "V core voltage :1,5"
Click to expand...

That is fine, the Celeron *should* run at 1.5v, the BIOS just doesn't
know that. Set to ignore.
behind Chassis fan speed xxx rpm (err)
behind CPU fans speed xxxrpm (err)
Click to expand...

You do have fans connected to the board's fan connectors? If not, then
the BIOS will naturally report errors. Set to ignore.
There is also a difficulty clearing the CMOS. I put a screwdriver on the 2
CLRTC soldering points but it did'nt do it.
Click to expand...

Use the smallest screwdriver you can find, and be sure to UNPLUG the
mains, else the CMOS will keep getting power and it won't work.

-- Erwin Dokter
 
Well, thank you both for the information and advices.
At least I know what's going on and surely would have liked to
be able to build such a 06B4 bios but don't know how to.
I am a social worker ;-)
If I can have a link to P2B's web site I'll wait till the 06B4
bios shows up.
Thank you again for being here
 
Erwin said:
This is to be expected; Asus "forgot" to include the 06B4 microcode
update for Tualatin processors in the BIOS. This is not critical, as
Intel specs state that a processor should run the same without the
microcode update.

I just hacked together a 1014.003 BIOS that does include the 06B4
microcode update. I sent the recepy to P2B, and I'm waiting for his
page to update :) I just flashed my own P2B rev 1.02 with and it was a
complete success!
Click to expand...

Just to clarify in case there's any confusion...

The instructions currently on my site are for installing the 06B4
microcode update into one of the spare slots in CMOS memory, where the
BIOS can load it - but it will be lost if you clear CMOS. This method
was developed by Paul, who also posts here regularly:

http://tipperlinne.com/bios6b4.htm

Erwin figured out how to add the new microcode to the BIOS itself
(without removing support for older slot 1 processors, like some recipes
do), but he hadn't tested his BIOS as he didn't have a way to recover
easily if it failed. He sent detailed instructions to me, I used them to
build modified P2B-S and P2B-DS BIOSes and flashed them, thus proving
Erwin's recipe works :-)

I'm planning to put Erwin's recipe on my site (available time is a
problem), but I'm not sure if I would run into copyright or other issues
if I offered modified BIOSes for download.

Using the method currently on my site is easier and involves less risk
as you are not rebuilding and flashing the main BIOS. I will post
Erwin's more elegant method when I get time, but I'm not sure it's wise
for me to offer modified BIOSes for download - although that would
certainly be easiest for many users.
 
Boloose11, Send me a mail if you want a copy of my BIOS.

P2B said:
I'm planning to put Erwin's recipe on my site (available time is a
problem), but I'm not sure if I would run into copyright or other issues
if I offered modified BIOSes for download.

Using the method currently on my site is easier and involves less risk
as you are not rebuilding and flashing the main BIOS. I will post
Erwin's more elegant method when I get time, but I'm not sure it's wise
for me to offer modified BIOSes for download - although that would
certainly be easiest for many users.
Click to expand...

I think that people putting Tualatins on their board would have no
problem updating their own BIOS files. All that would be needed to be
on the page is CBROM215 and the updated CPUCODE.EXE (© Intel). I can't
imagine any company tripping over that, but if they do, they will
always ask you to remove it first.

-- Erwin Dokter
 
Erwin said:
Boloose11, Send me a mail if you want a copy of my BIOS.




I think that people putting Tualatins on their board would have no
problem updating their own BIOS files. All that would be needed to be
on the page is CBROM215 and the updated CPUCODE.EXE (© Intel). I can't
imagine any company tripping over that, but if they do, they will
always ask you to remove it first.

-- Erwin Dokter
Click to expand...

That sounds like a very reasonable compromise... I think I'll run with
it :-)
 
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