New home network stopped working, please help

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Shawn Wheelock

Hello,

I am going crazy here, please help me somebody!!

I just set up a really simple network between 2 computers both running
win 2k. They are both connected via wireless cards to the router that
connects us to the outside world. They both use DHCP

Initially, I just had a workgroup with the two computers, and everything
was fine. Now it has stopped working, and I have tried everything that
my simple mind can think of.

Somtimes it tells me that it can't find the servers(?!) for the network.

As of right now, one computer can't open the workgroup, saying:
"workgroup is not accessable. The network path was not found." The
other computer sees the workgroup just fine, and can see the other
computer, but can't open the computer, saying again that the network was
not found.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled all of the networking components on
both computers to make sure they weren't messed up. I have all the
current updates on both of them. I just read an article that told me to
enable the NetBios over TCP/IP, and I did that (before, the option that
was selected was get settings from DHCP server).

Thank you anyone for any help that you can give me.

-Shawn Wheelock
 
Hi Shawn, there are a few basic network troubleshooting techniques that you
need to try first:
1. obtain the ip addresses for both machines. (from command prompt, type
ipconfig /all)
2. try to ping each other's ip address (from machine1, type ping <ip
address of machine2>, and viceversa) you should get four replies. If it
fails, you have basic tcp/ip and/or hardware connectivity issues and that is
where you need to focus.
3. If pinging is successful, right-click the My Computer icon on each
machine and go to manage>>local users and groups. Make sure you have the
same accounts/passwords setup on both machines
4. create shares on both machines and assign permissions to those shares
for the account that you are using to login to both machines

If you get this far and are still having problems, please reply and describe
the steps you took exactly.
 
Hello,

Well, I did that, and the machines are not seeing each other. When one
computer pinged the other, the error was

PING: transmit failed, error code 65.

and on the other one, it timed out. All four pings did the same thing.

I don't understand what could be going on. It all worked just fine in
the beginning, then stopped. I uninstalled TCP/IP along with everything
else, and had resinstalled it for the connections on both machines. Our
internet connections are working just fine too.

What would you suggest?

Thank you so much,

Shawn
 
That was good advice, thanks!

In checking there, there were several errors that I don't understand
where they came from. I am including the thee different ones that would
show up here... If you have any insight at all, I would REALLY
appreciate it!!

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8021
Date: 2/29/2004
Time: 10:54:10 AM
User: N/A
Computer: FINGOLFIN
Description:
The browser was unable to retrieve a list of servers from the browser
master \\BAMULATOS-TESTV on the network
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{33BA52EC-E88F-4EF5-9DF2-0DDC8B63F776}. The data is
the error code.
Data:
0000: 35 00 00 00 5...

Event Type: Error
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8032
Date: 2/29/2004
Time: 10:57:17 AM
User: N/A
Computer: FINGOLFIN
Description:
The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many
times on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{33BA52EC-E88F-4EF5-9DF2-0DDC8B63F776}. The backup
browser is stopping.
Data:
0000: 35 00 00 00 5...


This next one I don't get at all because I certainly did not give the
computers the same name, so that is really strange.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NetBT
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4319
Date: 2/29/2004
Time: 10:53:02 AM
User: N/A
Computer: FINGOLFIN
Description:
A duplicate name has been detected on the TCP network. The IP address
of the machine that sent the message is in the data. Use nbtstat -n in a
command window to see which name is in the Conflict state.
Data:
0000: 00 00 04 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 df 10 00 c0 ....ß..À
0010: 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 04 00 a8 c0 ..¨À
 
Also, if you have a router, it may be using NAT or a builtin firewall so
check the documentation to see if you need to allow all the ip addresses for
the computers access to the router.

How do you know your cabling is working? Do you have lights on the nics?
Try setting the link/duplex speed on both nics to 10/half just to
troubleshoot the connections. Can you ping the router from both pcs?
 
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP on your network card's properties/WINS tab.
did u make any changes to the machines before this?
make sure u have the same username and passowrd on both machines and
that u are logged with that account.
type net view at a dos prompt, waht do u see?
 
I just got it working. Thank you so much for your help!!

It turns out that even though I turned off my firewall, there was still
a piece of it running in the background. I tracked it down with the
pings, and how mine kept having a ping error 65.

Thank you again!
 
I just got it working. Thank you so much for your help!!

It turns out that even though I turned off my firewall, there was still
a piece of it running in the background. I tracked it down with the
pings, and how mine kept having a ping error 65.

Thank you again!
 
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