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That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on list
for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I would just like to
get something a little faster and better than what I have for Vista down the
road without buying all new.

ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)

Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
Socket 478

Looking at:

Intel P4 3.0Ghz
Socket 478

?????
 
If the buffers are bigger and the P4 boosts the FSB, you
should see a small improvement. The CPU swap should not
effect Windows.



| That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the
new CPU is on list
| for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I
would just like to
| get something a little faster and better than what I have
for Vista down the
| road without buying all new.
|
| ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)
|
| Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
| Socket 478
|
| Looking at:
|
| Intel P4 3.0Ghz
| Socket 478
|
| ?????
|
|
|
|
|
 
Stop dreaming; to run Vista, you need at least three to four times the
current power of your system, not 20 or 30% more.
 
Sylvain Lafontaine said:
Stop dreaming; to run Vista, you need at least three to four times the
current power of your system, not 20 or 30% more.
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How rude.

Your tone is just outright rude. Your an MVP. Should be taken away.
People ask questions, insight, knowledge, experience, etc.. Not to be
insulted. I'm just appawled at some of you that have MVP statis.

Thanks anyway.


Note to Jim Macklin, Thank you for your Help.
 
If your going to upgrade your CPU think in terms of 600MHz or better
increments for any noticeable difference, single core.. With my P4 2.4GB
(2400MHz) single core CPU, I would see a somewhat noticeable difference
upgrading to a P4 3.06GB, which is supported on my board or higher if my mobo
supported it, it doesn't though..
You may want to wait and upgrade the mobo, CPU and RAM when the single core
CPU's get into the mid to upper 3GB range or 4GB or better..?
If your thinking about a Vista upgrade, use the upgrade adviser first before
you spend your hard earned money, you may be surprised..
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx
Cheers
j;-j
 
Dooglo said:
That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on
list
for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I would just like
to
get something a little faster and better than what I have for Vista down
the
road without buying all new.

ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)

Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
Socket 478

Looking at:

Intel P4 3.0Ghz
Socket 478

?????
Click to expand...


More RAM, a faster hard drive, and a faster video card will make more
difference to the Vista experience than upgrading from a Celeron to P4 of
essentially the same speed.

To answer your question it is very unlikely you would have to re-install XP
because of the CPU swap. Be prepared for a repair install just in case. Make
sure you have a current backup before you change the CPUs.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
 
Not rude at all. If your current system is running Vista at a speed to slow
for your taste, accelerating it by a small factor will change nothing to the
situation and it will be even more true when you will try to do some real
work with it. Opening an application and taking a look at the menus is one
thing, working with it a few hours is another story. It's not because your
system is able to open Vista that it's able to cope with it and to give you
a decent performance for your daily work.

I've travelled myself this path many years ago and have invested money in a
system in the hope of increasing its performance; so I can tell you now by
personal experience that it's not worth it. There are some upgrades that
are useful, like increasing the memory or adding another hard-drive;
however, changing the CPU is not in this category and most of the time is
not worth it and in your case, the situation is worse because you want to
run a new and much bigger operating system than the old OS that you had
before on this machine.

I can tell you that if you spend money on your system, you will have some
great expectations; however, I'm pretty sure that you will be disappointed
by the final result and that you will have spend your money for nothing.
Better kept it for something more useful than a dream of a few hours.
 
You're welcome. BTW, I'm running a Celeron 1.7, 400 MHz FSB
on an Intel D845GBVL mobo. I would benefit from a P4
because I would get a boost to a 533 FSB and higher RAM
clocking, faster drive access and I could get a full GHz CPU
boost too.
I'm using on-board sound and graphics. Bottom-line I'm not
a cutting edge gamer, wanted a computer that could be
upgraded, I've got an open AGP and 4 PCI slots, I just need
a reason and a budget.
I do have 2 GB of PC3200 RAM, a DVD DL RW drive and a new
250 GB hard drive I'm going to install soon.

The Windows Vista Advisory program reports some problems,
mostly because it doesn't know about the hard drive upgrade.
There are program and software issues. But it says I can
run Vista. Download and run the advisor, see what it says.

My advice, spent your money on RAM, a DVD burner and a
better video and audio card before you spend money on a CPU.



|
| "Sylvain Lafontaine" wrote:
|
| > Stop dreaming; to run Vista, you need at least three to
four times the
| > current power of your system, not 20 or 30% more.
| >
| > --
| > Sylvain Lafontaine, ing.
| > MVP - Technologies Virtual-PC
| > E-mail: sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)
| >
|
| How rude.
|
| Your tone is just outright rude. Your an MVP. Should be
taken away.
| People ask questions, insight, knowledge, experience,
etc.. Not to be
| insulted. I'm just appawled at some of you that have MVP
statis.
|
| Thanks anyway.
|
|
| Note to Jim Macklin, Thank you for your Help.
|
|
|
 
Dooglo said:
That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on
list
Click to expand...

What list? If you mean as noted at the Asus website, or manual, for
possible cpus, that's the purpose of the list.
for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I would just like
to
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Chances are won't affect activation requirement, and won't affect HAL. Most
likely no.
get something a little faster and better than what I have for Vista down
the
road without buying all new.

ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)

Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
Socket 478

Looking at:

Intel P4 3.0Ghz
Socket 478
Click to expand...

Although the return on equivalent speed Pentium 4s over Celerons is not
really terribly significant, can help in the big scheme of things. However,
this thing is limited by the 533 MHz data bus speed. If you're using the
wimpy onboard graphics, could be problem with eye/ear candy Vista. The
onboard sound may be okay if Vista supports it.
 
Dooglo said:
That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on list
for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I would just like to
get something a little faster and better than what I have for Vista down the
road without buying all new.
Click to expand...



<snip>


Although replacing the CPU will not necessitate any changes in Windows...
....depending on the applications you run...it might not make a big
improvement either...
(though of course I'd recomment the P4 over the Celeron)

Either way...you'd be better off to stick with XP
than going with Vista.
 
ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)

Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
Socket 478

PC3200 DDR 1GB ram

Radeon 9550 256 Mb AGP card

Maxtor 120 Gb 7200 Rpm HD


This is what's in my case now. Vista Advisro say I can run Business no
problem. Green across the board. I just wanted to know if changing my CPU
to a better one fo the same board is going to improve perfromance?

Note to Sylain Lafontaine...

Sorry. I'm big enough to say it. But I'm sure that there are a lot of
people on these boards and others that feel the same as Ido when you are
answered the way you did. That's all.
 
Dooglo said:
That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on list
for the MB?
Click to expand...


Yes, if the motherboard supports the new CPU, then it can be changed.
Follow the motherboard's manufacturer's instructions very carefully.

And, will I have to re-install XP or not?
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No, that shouldn't be necessary. If there's a BIOS revision that goes
along with the new CPU, it might, in some rare cases, be necessary to
perform a repair installation, but a complete reinstallation shouldn't
be necessary.




--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
When it comes to Vista, there is running and there is Running. Many people
will tell you that with all advanced features deactivated, Vista will run on
low metal. I think that this might be true if all you want about Vista is
to check your messages in Outlook Express and maybe take a look at the
Dilbert's comic of the day in Internet Explorer.

However, if you have already expressed your dissatisfaction about the speed
of your system when running Vista, do you really think that an increase in
performance of 20 to 30% (and I'm generous here) will be sufficient to
change your state of mind from dissatisfaction to happiness? The likely
outcome is that excerpt maybe for the first few minutes after the booting
process, you won't even notice any difference at all.

We are no longer in the old happy days where you could replace a Pentium
90MHz with a 133MHz or a 166MHz to run Turbo C++ under DOS and be happy with
it. Today (and excerpt if your system is stranded in some way, for example,
you have only 512Megs of RAM instead of 1Gig and more), if you are happy
with your current system running Vista, then you're OK; however, if you're
not, then adding a possible 20% or 30% more power will change absolutely
nothing to your situation and you will have spent your money for nothing.

I don't know what kind of work you are doing with your computer but I can
tell you that a small increase in computational power will change absolutely
nothing to your current situation.
 
What programs you are running will determine what speed increases you see.
With that system I don't think you would see a noticeable difference in
Vista itself between those two CPUs. Personally I'd save my money. If you
need better performance then save towards getting a new system. You're
pretty much limited by the motherboard with the current one.
 
Check and do a BIOS update before changing the CPU.


| Dooglo wrote:
| > That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if
the new CPU is on list
| > for the MB?
|
|
| Yes, if the motherboard supports the new CPU, then it can
be changed.
| Follow the motherboard's manufacturer's instructions very
carefully.
|
|
| > And, will I have to re-install XP or not?
|
|
| No, that shouldn't be necessary. If there's a BIOS
revision that goes
| along with the new CPU, it might, in some rare cases, be
necessary to
| perform a repair installation, but a complete
reinstallation shouldn't
| be necessary.
|
|
|
|
| --
|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary
| safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
Franklin
|
| Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most
do. -Bertrand Russell
 
That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the new CPU is on list
for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I would just like to
get something a little faster and better than what I have for Vista down the
road without buying all new.

ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)

Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
Socket 478

Looking at:

Intel P4 3.0Ghz
Socket 478
Click to expand...

That's not going to make a lot of speed difference.
 
Although replacing the CPU will not necessitate any changes in Windows...
....depending on the applications you run...it might not make a big
improvement either...
(though of course I'd recomment the P4 over the Celeron)

Either way...you'd be better off to stick with XP
than going with Vista.
Click to expand...

Just a note to all from this note from Philo.

Well, looks to me I'll save my money for a new system down the road for
Vista. Might do the CPU swap for now, I've a good deal with local Computer
store for a P4. So, with that said I'll stick with XP till atleast SP1 or
SP2 on Vista, that way hardware manufacturers and MS should have all the bugs
worked out. I do like the way Vista looks and runs though.

Thanks All.
 
be better off to stick with XP
Just a note to all from this note from Philo.

Well, looks to me I'll save my money for a new system down the road for
Vista. Might do the CPU swap for now, I've a good deal with local Computer
store for a P4. So, with that said I'll stick with XP till atleast SP1 or
SP2 on Vista, that way hardware manufacturers and MS should have all the bugs
worked out. I do like the way Vista looks and runs though.
Click to expand...

Ok the p4 at a good price would be nice.
Wait a bit for Vista and see what kind of bugs show up and if there is a
good fix
from Microsoft etc
 
Dooglo said:
Just a note to all from this note from Philo.

Well, looks to me I'll save my money for a new system down the road for
Vista. Might do the CPU swap for now, I've a good deal with local
Computer
store for a P4. So, with that said I'll stick with XP till atleast SP1 or
SP2 on Vista, that way hardware manufacturers and MS should have all the
bugs
worked out. I do like the way Vista looks and runs though.

Thanks All.
Click to expand...


Your system should run Vista with no problems. I did most of my beta testing
on a P4 1.6 GHz with Office 2007 beta and Expression Web beta. It was a
little slower than XP but the system was useable. One of my current machines
is about the equivalent of yours and it runs Vista very well. Here's my blog
about the experience.

http://www.vistahelp.ca/Blog/blog.htm
 
Big change will be the FSB which will speed RAM and disk
access.

15-20% maybe.



message | On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:03:01 -0800, Dooglo
|
| >That's right. Is it possible to change CPU on MB, if the
new CPU is on list
| >for the MB? And, will I have to re-install XP or not? I
would just like to
| >get something a little faster and better than what I have
for Vista down the
| >road without buying all new.
| >
| >ASUS P4S8X-MX (MB)
| >
| >Intel Cel 2.93 Ghz
| >Socket 478
| >
| >Looking at:
| >
| >Intel P4 3.0Ghz
| >Socket 478
|
| That's not going to make a lot of speed difference.
 
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