Networking XP / 98

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I purchased a new computer with Win XP pro. I have been trying to network my old computer with Win 98. The new computer does not see the old computer. The old CPU sees the new CPU and the printer conected to it. I can share files from the New to the old but not from the old to the new. I have hooked the computers up to a Belkin switch. I use ethernet cards on both computers. How can I make these all work?
 
Greetings Rudyard,

Make sure each machine has the same workgroup name (MSHOME by default in XP)
and the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. If the subnet mask is different, they
are on different networks. Then you share your printer on the new computer.
Then on the other machine, then tell it to add a network printer and browse
for it.

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Eric


Rudyard said:
I purchased a new computer with Win XP pro. I have been trying to network
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my old computer with Win 98. The new computer does not see the old computer.
The old CPU sees the new CPU and the printer conected to it. I can share
files from the New to the old but not from the old to the new. I have hooked
the computers up to a Belkin switch. I use ethernet cards on both computers.
How can I make these all work?
 
"Eric Cross" said:
Greetings Rudyard,

Make sure each machine has the same workgroup name (MSHOME by default in XP)
and the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. If the subnet mask is different, they
are on different networks. Then you share your printer on the new computer.
Then on the other machine, then tell it to add a network printer and browse
for it.
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Those are good suggestions, Eric,and they're likely to make networking
a little easier. However, neither of them is necessary, and neither
of them guarantees that the network will work, because:

1. Windows networking supports multiple workgroups. A computer in any
workgroup can access a computer in any other workgroup.

2. It isn't possible to say what the subnet mask should be without
knowing the IP addresses of the computers on the network. For
example, the conventional subnet mask for the 10.0.0.0 private IP
address range is 255.0.0.0. It's even possible to network computers
using different subnet masks with certain IP addresses.

Rudyard, these tips should help you get everything working:

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other
firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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1. Windows networking supports multiple workgroups. A computer in any
workgroup can access a computer in any other workgroup.
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I would have to disagree on this one. Yes, Windows supports multiple
workgroups but can only join one workgroup at a time. Just for a test, I
changed one of the computers workgroup name to something else. The machine
didn't show up in the Workgroup unless it was the same like the others. The
other machines didn't see the computer either when it was changed. So, all
machines need to be configured to be on the same workgroup.


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Eric
 
I would have to disagree on this one. Yes, Windows supports multiple
workgroups but can only join one workgroup at a time. Just for a test, I
changed one of the computers workgroup name to something else. The machine
didn't show up in the Workgroup unless it was the same like the others. The
other machines didn't see the computer either when it was changed. So, all
machines need to be configured to be on the same workgroup.
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Eric,

of course it cannot show up in the old workgroup if it is in a
new workgroup. But you can see the new workgroup as well and the
computer in it, and you can access it there.

Hans-Georg
 
"Eric Cross" said:
I would have to disagree on this one. Yes, Windows supports multiple
workgroups but can only join one workgroup at a time. Just for a test, I
changed one of the computers workgroup name to something else. The machine
didn't show up in the Workgroup unless it was the same like the others. The
other machines didn't see the computer either when it was changed. So, all
machines need to be configured to be on the same workgroup.
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You're looking in the wrong place. Since the computer isn't in your
workgroup, it doesn't appear when you only look at your workgroup.

Here are three ways to see shared disks and folders on a computer
that's in a different workgroup:

1. Type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box, preceded by
two backslashes. For example, if the computer's name is XPHOME:

\\XPHOME

or:

2a. Open My Network Places.
2b. Click "View workgroup computers" to see your workgroup.
2c. Press the Backspace key to see the other workgroups.
2d. Click a workgroup to see the computers in it.
2e. Click the desired computer.

or:

3a. Run Windows Explorer.
3b. Click My Network Places.
3c. Click Entire Network.
3d. Click Microsoft Windows Network.
3e. Click the computer's workgroup.
3f. Click the computer.

As I said, putting all the computers in the same workgroup makes
networking a little easier, but it isn't necessary.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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