There are powered hubs that will amplify signals. A hubs
performs the function of allowing standard straight through
wire cables to swap pin connections as needed which is why
you don't need a cross-over cable if you have a hub. A hub
is basically a connection of all port to all other ports. A
switch only connects the ports that are needed at the time.
A router looks at the packets of information and sends it to
the correct device only.
| Good Morning Supertech,
|
| Right, I meant cross over cable not patch. The second
cable I bought, to
| check for a cable problem was a patch so I'm going to go
out and get another
| cross over cable to try.
|
| I don't mean to be a nit but what function does a hub
provide other than to
| allow distribution of signal between different devices.
I'm confused on how
| it would help my situation where my boxes actually do
partially recognize
| each other unless this is indicative of a weak signal.
Will a hub correct
| this by improving the signal?
|
| If the onboard LAN or it's LAN port is bad then the hub
can't fix it....? In
| that case might a PCI LAN card be the answer?
|
| Thanks for all of your thoughts and efforts.
|
| Marian
|
| | > Hello Again,
| >
| > You can buy a "hub" for cheap. Found one here. But
if you plan on
| > highspeed DSL or
| > cable down the road the $40 for a LinkSys 4 port
router is a good
| > product.
| >
| >
| >
|
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000J4M9/104-8220876-9274305?v=glance
| >
| > Amazon seems to do everything. You may be able to
find one locally at
| a
| > "used" computer store or a local CompUSA or BestBuy
or whatever is
| near
| > by.
| > Lots of these were 10mb but it would work for
testing. (check with
| your
| > friends
| > or network folks in your office if they have one
that could be
| borrowed
| > over night)
| >
| > Your PATCH cable MUST BE a "cross-over" for your
direct connection
| PC -
| > PC
| > It can NOT be a straight cat-5 cable.
| > To support this direct connection I believe your
network cards (nic's)
| > must support full-duplex. That is, be able to both
transmit and
| receive
| > at the same time.
| > Check your system specs.
| >
| > Later
| >
| > Supertech
| >
| >
| > | > > Dear Supertech,
| > >
| > > I haven't gone away yet. Yes I'm trying to network
directly with patch
| > > cable. Your "I hope not" did not encourage me to buy a
router but I did
| go
| > > out and buy a new cable just in case the connectors
were bad.
| > >
| > > What boggles my simple mind is that the boxes in fact
do recognize each
| > > other....if partial pings count....but not a 100% so I
opted for the
| cheap
| > > way first....if $8 for a dime piece of wire is cheap.
| > >
| > > Is there anyway I can verify that it's not a mainboard
problem before I
| go
| > > out and buy a router? I hate to throw good money after
bad.
| > >
| > > Since I'm not up for disappointment tonight I plan on
trying it in the
| > > morning.
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > >
| > > Marian
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
message
| > > | > > > Hello Again,
| > > >
| > > > 1. Your IP address ? 192.168.1.100 ,,
192.168.1.101 , fixed
| > ip's
| > > ?
| > > > net mask ok ? 255.255.255.0
| > > > 1a. if not sure just click , start , run , (type
in) cmd.exe ,
| gets
| > > > "DOS" window,
| > > > type in, ipconfig , it will tell you
everything.
| > > >
| > > > 2. How are the two boxes connected ? Hub ? ,
Switch? ,
| cross-over
| > > > cable(hope not).
| > > >
| > > > 3. Both of your cables good. . I have a pile of
bad ends where
| just
| > > one
| > > > wire
| > > > will kill traffic but pass a short ping.
| > > >
| > > > 4. Allow several minutes after the systems are
up I have two boxes
| > > here
| > > > that
| > > > when they are first booted up it takes up to
5 minutes for
| them
| > to
| > > > "discover"
| > > > each other.
| > > >
| > > > 5. Your right it should not be this hard. My kid
had his working
| > > before
| > > > I got mine figured out. I missed my own
software firewall set
| up
| > > even
| > > > after
| > > > looking at it several times.
| > > >
| > > > Regards,
| > > > Supertech
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Supertech,
| > > > >
| > > > > Boy are you right.....this one sure has been beat
to death....but it
| > > keeps
| > > > > coming back. I'm not a techspert but I'm not a
novice either and it
| > > > > shouldn't be this difficult.....there must be a
tree in here
| > somewhere.
| > > > >
| > > > > In response to your suggestions:
| > > > > 1. XP firewalls disabled
| > > > > 2. No router
| > > > > 3. "Real firewalls" disabled
| > > > > 4. Enabled file/printsharing on both
| > > > > 5. designated a shared folder on both
| > > > > 6. No softwear firewalls installed
| > > > >
| > > > > What's else can I try?
| > > > >
| > > > > Marian
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
message
| > > > > | > > > > > This one has been beat to death by most everyone
with XP it seems.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > 1. Make sure that you disable the XP
firewall on each system
| if
| > > > > enabled.
| > > > > > It will allow "pings" but not much
else.
| > > > > > 2. Are you using fix IP's or DHCP from a
router ?? are they
| > > correct
| > > > > ??
| > > > > > 3. Do you have a "real firewall" software
program on your
| > systems
| > > > > > (Norton, or such)?
| > > > > > if so set up both of the systems to
"TRUST" the other ones
| > ip
| > > > > > address.
| > > > > > 4. Ensure that you have enabled file / print
sharing on both.
| > > > > > 5. Ensure that you have shared a disk or
file folder on each
| > > system.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > 6. If your on the internet DSL or dialup you
will want to make
| > > sure
| > > > > that
| > > > > > you get a
| > > > > > "software" firewall that you can
configure to allow your
| > local
| > > > > > system to see each other
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > reply only to the group as my e-mail is
not..
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Supertech
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > | > > > > > > Hello,
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > I have 2 relatively new computers, both
running Windows XP
| (SP1).
| > > > > Computer
| > > > > > A
| > > > > > > is a Pent 4, 2.53 Ghz with 1GB RAM, Computer B
is a Celeon 2.7
| Ghz
| > > > with
| > > > > > 512
| > > > > > > mb RAM. Using the onboard LAN 10/100 on each.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > The problem is that I cannot get them to
network with each
| other.
| > No
| > > > > other
| > > > > > > computers involved........just a 2 machine
network. When I go
| > > through
| > > > > the
| > > > > > > PING procedure each machine is successful unto
itself but
| between
| > > > > machines
| > > > > > > there are always dropped
packets.......sometimes 1, sometimes 2,
| > > > > sometimes
| > > > > > > 3, and sometimes 4. In any case it's never
consistent except
| that
| > I
| > > > > can't
| > > > > > > complete the network.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Any suggestions will be appreciated.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Marian
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
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