Network...?

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Frank

I see that the Network icon still does not appear on the desktop unless
you select "classic view". I'm talking build 5342. Also can anyone or
someone please explain to me how I can get it to show all the other
computers on my network? I have a workgroup (not a domain) with 5 other
computers. I've tried to do all the usual setup items but I must be
missing something.
Is there a "search for computers" like in XP. If so where is it located?
All help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Frank
 
If you right click the Desktop, select Personalise, check the top left hand
corner of the window and see "Change desktop icons" or something of that
affect :o)

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Zack said:
If you right click the Desktop, select Personalise, check the top left hand
corner of the window and see "Change desktop icons" or something of that
affect :o)
Zack...that hasn't worked since...ever! Not in any builds I've used.
I've complained about it forever and they keep saying it'll be fixed in
the next build. Never is!
Anyway, all I really want is to be able to see all the other computers
on my network.
How can I do that?
Frank
 
Andre said:
This has been fixed in 5365, I just put the cool new network icon on
the desktop through procedures described by Zack.

Yes, but the "cool new network icon" doesn't give you a view of the
other computers in your Workgroup. At least it doesn't here. I've
bugged this saying that I know that My Network Places has always been
flaky, but there needs to be a transparent way for end users to view
the other computers on the lan. Clicking on the Domain/Group on the
tool bar doesn't help.

I was able to connect to XP and Linux desktops and created shortcuts to
them, which I put in a folder called "Network" on my desktop.
Apparently even though I've shared my Home directory on Vista, I'm
still not allowed to access it from the other computers. And there's
some problem with Samba because I can access Linux from Vista but not
vice versa. Naturally this interoperability won't be that important to
MS. ;-)

Malke
 
Same :o)

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Andre said:
On the contrary Malke, I see both my Computers, in Network when I
access it from either the Start Menu Panel or Desktop link 5365. No
need to type in a command through Run, or search for it through the
Start Menu and I am able to browse the contents without any issues. :)

Hmmm.. Well I must be doing something wrong then. When I click on the
Network link in the Start Menu Panel, it opens a window but there is
nothing in it. If I click on the drop-down arrow next to Domain (no
domain here though) I see the name of my Workgroup with a checkbox next
to it. Should I check this? The Workgroup name shows correctly in
Computer Name - IOW I'm not incorrectly part of a domain.

Malke
 
Andre said:
This has been fixed in 5365, I just put the cool new network icon on the
desktop through procedures described by Zack.

I'm not going to dl 5365. I'm tired of installing worthless builds that
still have previous problems. I've bastardized 5342 to the point of
being unrecognizable yet slightly functional. I'm not a developer
(whatever that is!) and all I try to do is to see how functionally
builds are and report bugs. I've now got 5342 on line as a
semi-production unit. But I've got to tell you, it functions like an
Alpha build (i.e., barely usable), not a beta. In over ten years of
beta testing, I've never seen such poor excuses for later builds as I
have for Vista. Did all the really intelligent ones retire, leave or
simply burn out? Where are the young lions..?
Are there any left?
I'll wait for the public beta...no more builds for me.
Mark me frustrated and deeply disappointed.
Frank
 
Andre said:
I am confused, are you part of a Domain (connected and authenticated
on a Network Operating System) or a workgroup?

A Workgroup. I double-checked that this setting is correct in
System>Computer Name and it does show that I am part of a Workgroup, as
it should be.

Malke
 
fb said:
I'm not going to dl 5365. I'm tired of installing worthless builds
that still have previous problems. I've bastardized 5342 to the point

(snip)

That's fine, but I'd rather keep this thread on target and not have it
hijacked into a rant because Andre and Zack and I are addressing a
problem which it would be nice to have solved.

Malke
 
Please note that builds 5342, 5365 are interim builds and are not of the
same quality as CTP (Community Technology Previews). I am not a developer,
but I am curious, I want to learn, submit feedback and help make this
release of Windows great. Like it or not, by next year, this is what you are
gonna get on the computer you purchase preloaded.

It has also been noted that Feedback submitted through the regular channels,
such as BETA Client, Vista Sentiments are read by the Vista Team and taken
into consideration. It does not have to be for the RTM release, but possibly
the first Service Pack or a future version of Windows. I see progress being
made with each build, I couldn't use the Internet in 5308 and 5342, now I
can in 5365. Network browsing is working for me, explorer is stable and its
just getting better in general.

I would also take this opportunity to submit feedback, since the focus of
these recent interim releases are targetted at fixing bugs. Why not take
advantage of it? :)
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Malke said:
fb wrote:

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:

This has been fixed in 5365, I just put the cool new network icon on
the desktop through procedures described by Zack.

I'm not going to dl 5365. I'm tired of installing worthless builds
that still have previous problems. I've bastardized 5342 to the point


(snip)

That's fine, but I'd rather keep this thread on target and not have it
hijacked into a rant because Andre and Zack and I are addressing a
problem which it would be nice to have solved.

Malke
Excuse me! I started this thread and neither Andre or Zake can fix the
Network/icon/workgroup problem. Until the developers fix it use a work
around.
If your nice, I'll tell you the best one and how to implement it.
Frank
 
Andre said:
Does it have a unique name, no conflicting ip addresses, Simple File
Sharing turned on? What are the other versions of Windows you are
trying to connect to from Vista?

Good morning, Andre. Thanks for continuing with this. Here is the setup:

Original box - XP Pro on drive 0, data on drive 1. Has been in a network
consisting of boxen running SUSE 9.3 (2 machines), XP Pro (2 machines),
and XP Home (1 machine) for years. So we know the network is fine under
XP Pro.

What I do to test Vista is remove drive 0 and replace it with an 80GB
Seagate that I have just for Vista. I unplug drive 1 and install Vista.
Then after Vista is up I connect drive 1. Then usually after a short
time I get too irritated with Vista to continue so I put the XP drive
back. ;-)

This time I have actually left the Vista drive in and given it a
permanent home in the drive cage!

So to answer your question, the box has a unique name, gets its IP via
DHCP (Linksys router), Simple File Sharing is not turned on because I
have a mixed OS network and I don't enable Guest. Naturally I have
identical user accounts/passwords on the system and there are no null
passwords.

I will continue to play with this to see what's going on, but I'm sure
the networking will get better as Vista moves to a more finished state.
Thanks for all your input.

And to fb - I didn't realize you were the OP since you started the
thread with the name "Frank". Certainly you can rant if you want to
expend that energy. I just wanted to keep the thread on target for
actually addressing problems in a constructive way.

Malke
 
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