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I have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
There is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
parallel printer attached to it.

These systems use Netbeui to connect.

Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?

There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?

Dan
 
Hello Dan,

NetBEUI has mostly been replaced by TCP/IP. Support for NetBEUI was
discontinued in Windows XP. You can use TCP/IP of which are installed by
default in Windows XP and Windows Vista.
 
I have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
There is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
parallel printer attached to it.

These systems use Netbeui to connect.

Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?

There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?

Dan
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Get a modern print server gadget for as little as 50 bucks. It will
probably pay for itself in electric bills compared to an old PC, not
to mention the grief if/when the W98 machine dies.
 
Thanks but question not answered.

Can I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS system?

Putting a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to have
a Vista printer driver as well.

Dan
 
There is "Netbeui" no such thing as "XP Netbeui". It was included with XP
only to provide backward network compatibility between XP and "older"
Windows versions.
As Eric stated - TCP/IP now performs the network functions - Vista does not
support Netbeui.
 
I cannot get Vista basic to print to the windows 98 machine that has the
Canon printer attached to it via parallel cable.

Since netbeui cannot be installed as a protocol in Vista, and this is a
workgroup, and the add printer wizard does not find or detect this printer.

Any thoughts how to handle?

Dan
 
I have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
There is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
parallel printer attached to it.

These systems use Netbeui to connect.

Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?

There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?

Dan
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If you are using a computer for shares (file or Print) it is best that
it is the HIGHEST O/S, not the lowest.
W98se does support TCP/IP (windows) networks (I have one running with
98se,W2k,XPpro and Vista rc2).
Steve U
 
Yes. The XP netbeui will install and run under VISTA. I ran it for a
few days and then decided it was creating too many problems with pcs
when they started hibernating.

Thanks but question not answered.

Can I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS system?

Putting a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to have
a Vista printer driver as well.

Dan
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Thanks but question not answered.

Can I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS system?

Putting a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to have
a Vista printer driver as well.
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You need a Vista print driver now. A shared printer needs to have the
correct driver installed on the client machine to print no matter how it
is networked.

Dan
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AJR said:
There is "Netbeui" no such thing as "XP Netbeui". It was included with XP
only to provide backward network compatibility between XP and "older"
Windows versions.
As Eric stated - TCP/IP now performs the network functions - Vista does
not support Netbeui.
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True enough in the sense that vista does not include nor officially support
the installation and binding of Netbeui as a protocol.

Untrue that it cannot be installed and used. Just out of curiosity I
followed the basic instructions for installing it into XP which are
available all over the web (But applied the instruction to Vista) and it
worked smoothly even after un-binding TCPIP from the adapters. i.e. using
only Netbeui. Granted there are probably issues I didn't find due to the
individual nature of the system I tested it upon.

I have used this method in the past as a means of keeping drive by hackers
out of shares that used WEP based wireless routers, which everyone knows,
are simply just too easy to crack.

So no it isn't officially supported but yes it certainly can be used at
least for now. :)
 
Very interesting!

One thing, if I remember correctly, is that wireless networking doesn't
work with netbeui even under XP?
 
Hugh Wyn Griffith said:
Very interesting!

One thing, if I remember correctly, is that wireless networking doesn't
work with netbeui even under XP?
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When I tested it I had absolutely everything running wirelessly except a
hardwired printer. That was one wired printer and 5 wireless machines. It
all worked, well, except nothing sees the one VISTA machine shares other
than the windows media player via it's library no matter what protocol I use
although IT sees everything on the router.I've done every trick I've found
online and in this group and so far no other machine on my network can
reliably see the vista home premium node.

Oh and just FYI, I removed Netbeui from everything and restored the
defaults, I only installed it as a test to see if the clain it wasn't
possible was well founded, which it turns out, wasn't.

joe
 
Thanks for the additional background. Netbeui always seemed to set up
LANs so smoothly that it was a pity to have to abandon it.

You certainly are not the only person to be having network problems
under VISTA. I'm seeing it over on Compuserve where I sysop.
 
Thanks for all replies.

I use a win 98 as a print server as it does not have any limit on connected
users like w2k, or xp.

Dan
 
Thanks for all replies.

I use a win 98 as a print server as it does not have any limit on connected
users like w2k, or xp.
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A $50 print server gadget wouldn't have that limit, either, and would
probably pay for itself in a year's electricty bill.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...server&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=23&Go.y=27

http://tinyurl.com/2mkubj


I like LPRd protocol for Windows clients. All modern print servers
support it. I've set it up on some huge number of PCs and printers
since W98. Microsoft changes the terminology with every version of
Windows.
 
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