.NET support in Sony Ericsson P900!

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That great news, but...
"Finaly, a serious and respected firm supports .NET."
Even if we are talking PDAs and phones, what makes HP, Dell, Motorola not
serious or not respected?


Vatroslav Mihalj (Croatia) said:
Yesssss!!!!!!!!

Sony Ericsson announced (Compact?) .NET supprot in their Symbian (and
MicroJava) based P900. In the first release, only VB.NET is supported,
Managed C++ and C# will come later
 
Perhaps the most exciting issue behind this is the Marriage of Sony and
..NET. I for one would LOVE to leverage some of those se><y Sony products...

I think with the current problems with Palm OS, the re-acquisition of
handspring and the division of the hardware/OS divisions at Palm... Sony is
positioning themselves not be *attached* to something that may die a
horrible death... Consider the tools available for each platform and the
capability of Palm OS vs. Pocket PC / .NET. Also consider the position that
Microsoft has openly announced in regard to their mobile divison. It
appears that the message was received... and perhaps soon we will see more
of Sony's craft supporting .NET. Of course, this is just my opinion. ;-)

Rick Winscot
www.zyche.com


Vatroslav Mihalj (Croatia) said:
Yesssss!!!!!!!!

Sony Ericsson announced (Compact?) .NET supprot in their Symbian (and
MicroJava) based P900. In the first release, only VB.NET is supported,
Managed C++ and C# will come later
 
Sony Ericsson announced (Compact?) .NET supprot in their Symbian
(and MicroJava) based P900.

this is great...

But:
In the first release, only VB.NET is supported,
Managed C++ and C# will come later

i cannot understand this!
i've learned, that .NET is .NET ... doesn't matter if the intermediate code
is compiled from COBOL.Net, VB.Net, C#, ... the EXE will be all the same.

So why a limitation to VB.Net? and how?

Boris
 
Because this isn't a true .NETCF runtime for these platforms. Instead it is
a method of taking VB.NET source code and compiling it into something which
executes on these platforms. It is merely an evolution of the existing
MobileVB except now it can run inside Visual Studio.NET rather than Visual
Basic 6.
It's obviously not starting from the IL code but from the VB source code
hence no current support for other languages (e.g. C#).

Peter
 
Boris,

if you read the text you can see, that not SonyEricsson will only
support VB.NET, but AppForge! AppForge is an IDE, that integrates the
P900 Features like Bluetooth, etc. So I think the message of the text
is: "Use AppForge and have all features integrated in the IDE but you
can't use C#, or use VS, have all languages that you want but you have
to write all the DLLImports yourself."
But maybe I'm wrong? Maybe SonyEricsson will support VS also?

Christoph
 
Because this isn't a true .NETCF runtime for these platforms. Instead it is
a method of taking VB.NET source code and compiling it into something which
executes on these platforms. It is merely an evolution of the existing
MobileVB except now it can run inside Visual Studio.NET rather than Visual
Basic 6.
It's obviously not starting from the IL code but from the VB source code
hence no current support for other languages (e.g. C#).

Aha - OK.... but then i wouldn't talk about a ".NET Support" ... because
you need a special compiler then...

good to know

Boris
 
Because this isn't a true .NETCF runtime for these platforms. Instead it is
a method of taking VB.NET source code and compiling it into something which
executes on these platforms. It is merely an evolution of the existing
MobileVB except now it can run inside Visual Studio.NET rather than Visual
Basic 6.
It's obviously not starting from the IL code but from the VB source code
hence no current support for other languages (e.g. C#).

Aha - OK.... but then i wouldn't talk about a ".NET Support" ... because
you need a special compiler then...

good to know

Boris
 
the current CF does not support J#. I would guess this is a similar issue
with Sony's support for only VB and not C#.


-Andrew
 
It's *Studio* that doesn't support J# for the CF, which is an important
distinction. The CF itself doesn't care where the IL came from. You could
write it in LOGO .NET and compile it to IL, provided it only uses commands
available from the CF.

-Chris
 
Not quite. I've briefly entertained the idea of building a JScript.NET
assembly for CF and gave up quickly since the whole scripting runtime is
missing in CF. To put it simply, what MIcrosoft.VisualBasic.DLL is for
VB.NET does not exist in CF for other languages, like JScript.NET or J#

Chris Tacke said:
It's *Studio* that doesn't support J# for the CF, which is an important
distinction. The CF itself doesn't care where the IL came from. You could
write it in LOGO .NET and compile it to IL, provided it only uses commands
available from the CF.

-Chris


Andrew Robinson said:
the current CF does not support J#. I would guess this is a similar issue
with Sony's support for only VB and not C#.


-Andrew



Peter Foot said:
Because this isn't a true .NETCF runtime for these platforms. Instead
it
is
a method of taking VB.NET source code and compiling it into something which
executes on these platforms. It is merely an evolution of the existing
MobileVB except now it can run inside Visual Studio.NET rather than Visual
Basic 6.
It's obviously not starting from the IL code but from the VB source code
hence no current support for other languages (e.g. C#).

Peter
 
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