.net newbie help

[Guest]

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Im interested in learning .net, i have few experience with visual basic 6 (very few) so im in a dilema, should i try to master visual basic 6 since there still are applications i might encounter to give support, or just go for .net? is this possible
or is it 100% necesary to master vb 6 to understand .net? can i skip vb 6 and which would be the consequences? wouldnt it be seen as a waste of time if i study vb 6 while .net is out there? thats what worry me more.
now after all this, if im gonna start with .net, which is a good book for NEWBIES, starting .net from ZERO
any opinion will be of great hel

Thanks in advanc

 

[Scott M.]

Hi

Im interested in learning .net, i have few experience with visual basic 6

(very few) so im in a dilema, should i try to master visual basic 6 since
there still are applications i might encounter to give support, or just go
for .net? is this possible?

No, go to .NET.

or is it 100% necesary to master vb 6 to understand .net? can i skip vb 6

and which would be the consequences?

Skip VB 6 and go to .NET

wouldnt it be seen as a waste of time if i study vb 6 while .net is out
there?

Yes.

thats what worry me more..

now after all this, if im gonna start with .net, which is a good book for

NEWBIES, starting .net from ZERO?

any opinion will be of great help

I like the WROX series Professional VB.NET/Professional ASP.NET.

 

[Cor]

Hi KC,

KC as addition to Scott (what I agree). You have to accept that with learing
VB.net you not are learning VB6. It is almost a different language.

If all goes very good, you probably will at a certain moment start
converting the VB6 programs to VB.Net.

Cor

 

[Steven Smith]

Hi KC

I learned .NET with an excellent book called 'Programming
with Visual Basic .NET' By Diane Zak, published by
Thompson Course Technology. This is an excellent book
which guides through everything you need to know to get
yourself up and running. The book takes the lesson based
approach giving you step-by-step instructions how to
build a small but useful applications with all the new
features you've learned in each section. At the end of
each lesson the book asks you to build about 10
applications which use the new skills you've gained this
makes you actually think about the new things you've
learned and how to implment them in different ways

After completeing this book you will have the confidence
to start developing your own real world applications.

Good Luck

Regards Steve

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Im interested in learning .net, i have few experience with visual
basic 6 (very few) so im in a dilema, should i try to master
visual basic 6 since there still are applications i might
encounter to give support, or just go for .net? is this possible?

VB.NET and VB Classic are _very_ different, .NET and COM are different
technologies.

or is it 100% necesary to master vb 6 to understand .net?

No. It's better to know nothing about VB Classic in order to write
proper VB.NET code.

;-)

can i skip vb 6 and which would be the consequences?

You wouldn't be able to code in the world's most innovative programming
language.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

No, go to .NET.

Go with both... if you have enough time, I would say.

Skip VB 6 and go to .NET

ACK. I think it's better to learn VB.NET _first_.

wouldnt it be seen as a waste of time if i study vb 6 while .net is out
there?

Yes.

Mhm... VB6 is still IMO very important. It's a "cool" programming
language.

I like the WROX series Professional VB.NET/Professional ASP.NET.

Does Wrox still exist?!

 

[Scott M.]

Go with both... if you have enough time, I would say.


ACK. I think it's better to learn VB.NET _first_.


Mhm... VB6 is still IMO very important. It's a "cool" programming
language.

Does Wrox still exist?!

Uh, yes. They were bought during the summer but their titles still sell
under the WROX name.

 

[Scott M.]

can i skip vb 6 and which would be the consequences?

You wouldn't be able to code in the world's most innovative programming
language.

If by innovative, you mean:

6 years since the last update to the language/object model
not fully/truly Object Oriented
generally slower execution
limited (in some low level areas) as to what you can do with it
difficult to write cross-language applications
COM based

Then I agree.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

If by innovative, you mean:

6 years since the last update to the language/object model

What's the problem with that?

not fully/truly Object Oriented

OOP isn't god's chosen programming paradigm.

generally slower execution

Not much slower, especially not forms.

limited (in some low level areas) as to what you can do with it
difficult to write cross-language applications

ACK. But in many cases .NET is "oversized".

COM based

COM was very giid for a couple of years. It's still good.

Then I agree.

;->

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Uh, yes. They were bought during the summer but their titles still sell
under the WROX name.

Thank you!

 

[Guest]

Thanks a lot guys, you all have been of great help!

Now ill introduce myself into .net world~~~~

Thanks again!!

 

[Cor]

Hi Herfried,

"> > not fully/truly Object Oriented

OOP isn't god's chosen programming paradigm.

I am glad I am not the only one who has this thougth

Not much slower, especially not forms.

An comparissing without Nothing is not comparissing so this is an empty
sentence.

ACK. But in many cases .NET is "oversized".

Not ACK see my sentence above, but you have to compare this with languages
as Java, C# and C++ in the managed situation, I dont believe that that will
make a difference of much pico's and not oversized, and not everywhere but
for a long existent program language is VB.net (not VB) very consistent.

COM was very giid for a couple of years. It's still good.

Who has tears that that is disapearing, maybe good for the programmer but
not for the users (system administrators).

My 1 eurocent

Cor

 

[Robert Jacobson]

Many of the Wrox titles have been purched by Apress, and are being
re-released under the Apress label.

 

[Scott M.]

Actually the WROX titles I mentioned are still being produced under the WROX
name but by APress. ISBN's have changed since the sale, but the content is
the same and the WROX brand continues.

Many of the Wrox titles have been purched by Apress, and are being
re-released under the Apress label.


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Go with both... if you have enough time, I would say.

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