Neilslade.com GETS PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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FACT: There's a website called neilslade.com that highly recommends
the quality of inkgrabber.com. However, what is not stated on the
website is that THEY GET PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com.

Go to the link....
..
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
..
look for the "INKGRABBER G&G" that is printed in yellow. If you click
on it, the first website it brings you to is...
..
shareasale.com
..
then it bring you to.....
..
inkgrabber.com
..

OPINION: Although the information on that website could be accurate,
I just question the research since neilslade.com GETS PAID FOR
PROMOTING inkgrabber.com
 
FACT: There's a website called neilslade.com that highly recommends
the quality of inkgrabber.com. However, what is not stated on the
website is that THEY GET PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com.

Go to the link....
.
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
.
look for the "INKGRABBER G&G" that is printed in yellow. If you click
on it, the first website it brings you to is...
.
shareasale.com
.
then it bring you to.....
.
inkgrabber.com
.

OPINION: Although the information on that website could be accurate,
I just question the research since neilslade.com GETS PAID FOR
PROMOTING inkgrabber.com
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Hey meashershithead...didn't you point out this fact many months ago?
You forgot huh? Oh, you thought it might make good anti-after market ink
fatter for your pretend friend stan?
Is that the deal bozo?
Frank
 
FACT: There's a website called neilslade.com that highly recommends
the quality of inkgrabber.com. However, what is not stated on the
website is that THEY GET PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com.
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And maybe now you will believe me. And your friend burt was a moderator
for that group. What does that tell you?
 
Measekite,
can you give me a list of moderators that was promoting after market
ink? At this point it appears that the only person I'm trusting is
Jan Alter. At least Jan alter has a email from a school district.
I'm going to call her tomorrow to verify she is real.

Stan
 
Measekite,
can you give me a list of moderators that was promoting after market
ink? At this point it appears that the only person I'm trusting is
Jan Alter. At least Jan alter has a email from a school district.
I'm going to call her tomorrow to verify she is real.

Stan
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Meashershithead, oh...I mean...stan...OH NO!...joe...well, that's what
you're calling yourself over at INVESTINGADVISERS.COM (hows that FREE
life insurance policy coming along?)
So either post your phone number here for all to see so that we can
verify that you are ..."FOR REAL" or CRAW BACK INTO THAT HOLE YOU'VE
MANAGED CRAWLED OUT OF!
Frank
 
FACT: There's a website called neilslade.com that highly recommends
the quality of inkgrabber.com. However, what is not stated on the
website is that THEY GET PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com.

Go to the link....
.
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
.
look for the "INKGRABBER G&G" that is printed in yellow. If you click
on it, the first website it brings you to is...
.
shareasale.com
.
then it bring you to.....
.
inkgrabber.com
.

OPINION: Although the information on that website could be accurate,
I just question the research since neilslade.com GETS PAID FOR
PROMOTING inkgrabber.com
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FACT - YOU DON'T know that he gets paid
FACT - You are really sounding like Measekite on this one!!!!!
OPINION - you need to get past you paranoia and have some sense of who is
trustworthy.
 
Measekite,
can you give me a list of moderators that was promoting after market
ink? At this point it appears that the only person I'm trusting is
Jan Alter. At least Jan alter has a email from a school district.
I'm going to call her tomorrow to verify she is real.

Stan
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Yes - I am a moderator for the Nifty-Stuff Forum. I participated for a few
years and contributed any and all information that I felt was helpful to
others. I had purchased several items in bulk online at a very low cost and
shared them at no cost with other contributers in an effort to make their
refilling easier. Because I was a frequent contributer with assistance to
others, Rob, the original moderator asked me to help him while he was on
vacation. I then was asked to continue as a co-moderator with several other
participants. In all that time (almost four years) I have only deleted one
advertisement and asked one participant to be more civil and not attack
other participants personally.

Measekite "discovered" my participation and took great glee in thinking he
had blown my cover. In fact, I wasn't hiding my participation from anyone.
Since I didn't know what the tone of the forum might be, I signed in with
the name, Fotofreek, to shield myself from the likes of Measekite. Anyone
who was on this NG up until about a year ago will remember the attacks from
MK on several people with snide sexual comments about someones mother and
other really obnoxious, defamatory posts. Now that he has moderated his
tone somewhat, he tends to appear more convincing with his posts, even
though most are the same old inexperience-based bias.

It is a pleasure to participate in the nifty forum, a moderated group that
keeps the discourse civil. That forum has more information on aftermarket
inks and printer maintenance, primarily for Canon, all in one place, than
any other I have seen. It is an ideal forum to learn the tips, tricks, and
traps of refilling. It epitomizes the coming together of people who share
their own experience and innovation in this area for the benefit of others.
There are no trolls who take pleasure in shooting down people with whom they
disagree. Advertisers are kindly discouraged, and if they persist, their
posts and their participation are cancelled.

So, Stan - if you can't trust that kind of attitude and approach to sharing
knowledge, you are truly paranoid.
 
As I mentioned in a previous posting, I think it is always good to ask
"who benefits", and where the source of the information is.

However, the reverse is not necessarily so that because something is
promoted or someone benefits that they necessarily are not being
truthful or accurate.

I am sure you have recommended products you have tried to others because
you believe them to be quality or worthwhile. An ethical person would
test and try a product before selling it to others. If they found the
product did what it claimed to, why wouldn't they wish to promote it?

I agree that one always should question what the association between a
promotion of a product and the individual is, but one cannot "know"
categorically that if such a relationship exists that means that the
promotion is based upon misleading information.

Art
 
FACT: There's a website called neilslade.com that highly recommends
the quality of inkgrabber.com. However, what is not stated on the
website is that THEY GET PAID for promoting inkgrabber.com.
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And I get paid for the produce I raise on the farm. (at least, that's
the idea.) So does that mean that any advice I might give a customer on
why his tomatoes aren't ripening is suspect?

TJ
 
Yeap... absolutely. You are probably trying to sabotage every else's
tomato success so you can sell more tomatoes, eh? ;-)

I still want to know why no one can grow a really tasty tomato that gets
to Vancouver Island. They all taste like bags of red-orange water, year
round. The only thing they are good for is making 3rd party inkjet ink.

All I want of life is a beefsteak tomato like what I used to get in New
Jersey on the east coast of the US. They were a meal in themselves.
Since I moved to the west coast I haven't had a decent tomato. They
sell those "hothouse" things which no matter which variety it is, they
taste identical (in fact the hothouse cucumbers taste just like the
tomatoes).

I want an OEM tomato!

Art
 
[email protected] wrote:

Measekite, can you give me a list of moderators that was promoting after market ink? At this point it appears that the only person I'm trusting is Jan Alter. At least Jan alter has a email from a school district. I'm going to call her tomorrow to verify she is real.


But is the only moderator who admitted he is or was a moderator publicly and does promote relabeled ink.  In her case she or her school made a poor choice in an Epson printer that uses durabrite ink that has a tendancy to clog.  Remember that kids are not a real judge of quality.  There are even some in this ng.


Stan



And maybe now you will believe me. And your friend burt was a moderator for that group. What does that tell you?
 
Arthur said:
Yeap... absolutely. You are probably trying to sabotage every else's
tomato success so you can sell more tomatoes, eh? ;-)

I still want to know why no one can grow a really tasty tomato that gets
to Vancouver Island. They all taste like bags of red-orange water, year
round. The only thing they are good for is making 3rd party inkjet ink.

All I want of life is a beefsteak tomato like what I used to get in New
Jersey on the east coast of the US. They were a meal in themselves.
Since I moved to the west coast I haven't had a decent tomato. They
sell those "hothouse" things which no matter which variety it is, they
taste identical (in fact the hothouse cucumbers taste just like the
tomatoes).

I want an OEM tomato!
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Not at OEM prices! They'd be $29.95 each and with an electronic chip to
monitor its consumption.

The first decent tomatoes we had here in Eastern Canada came originally
from B.C. several years ago. They were the then "new" vine variety, the
ones that come as a group with the umbilical cord - sorry, stem - still
attached. They were quite fabulous compared to the awful, plastic-
tasting, solo, no-stemmed variety we had in our stores at the time.
Local producers then began to copy the BC success story and we no longer
get the BC tomatoes. I'm sure even these don't compare with your New
Jersey variety you remember and crave for.

We still do get BC cherries. But most of the time I find the California
(reds) and the Washington State (dark reds) in our stores. I'm assuming
the Washington and BC cherries are of the same variety - delicious!

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
Not at OEM prices! They'd be $29.95 each and with an electronic chip to
monitor its consumption.

The first decent tomatoes we had here in Eastern Canada came originally
from B.C. several years ago. They were the then "new" vine variety, the
ones that come as a group with the umbilical cord - sorry, stem - still
attached. They were quite fabulous compared to the awful, plastic-
tasting, solo, no-stemmed variety we had in our stores at the time.
Local producers then began to copy the BC success story and we no longer
get the BC tomatoes. I'm sure even these don't compare with your New
Jersey variety you remember and crave for.

We still do get BC cherries. But most of the time I find the California
(reds) and the Washington State (dark reds) in our stores. I'm assuming
the Washington and BC cherries are of the same variety - delicious!

-Taliesyn
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You guys need to stop buying tomatoes in grocery stores. They don't know
how to store them to retain the best flavor. Go directly to a farmer, in
season, for that taste treat you remember! Or, grow some yourself. You
don't need a plot of land, just a good-sized pot and a spot in the sun.

TJ
 
Arthur, I am a tomato snob myself and almost gave up on anything that
was bought in a grocery store. Then I happened across a brand of tomato
called Campari and was very pleasantly surprised with their taste. They
are grown in a hot house but have a vine ripe flavor like nothing I have
experienced from store bought tomatoes. They aren't as big as beef
steaks but I can buy them throughout the year and their quality is very
consistent. Give them a try. Here's a link:

http://www.camparitomatoes.com/
 
I wish that were the problem, really. I live in a rural area and all my
neighbors are farmers (many organic), and I have tried their tomatoes,
and many others direct from the farm. The problem, in part, is the
weather here. We have cold nights most of the summer. Also, we have
grown numerous varieties of tomatoes, even early ripening types, but
none have the taste I'm after. The closest to "tasty" are those little
cherry type. When I had a garden in New Jersey and New York, any type
of tomato I grew was fantastic (as were most of the other veggies).

In fairness, the ones grown in the much warmer interior of BC are
better, but somehow they never make it here... they send us Mexican
"Vine ripened" before we get BC Okanagan. Also, they gas them here to
"ripen" the green tomatoes, and they stink (literally) - they smell of
methane. It's a crime!

Art
 
I wish that were the problem, really. I live in a rural area and all my
neighbors are farmers (many organic), and I have tried their tomatoes,
and many others direct from the farm. The problem, in part, is the
weather here. We have cold nights most of the summer. Also, we have
grown numerous varieties of tomatoes, even early ripening types, but
none have the taste I'm after. The closest to "tasty" are those little
cherry type. When I had a garden in New Jersey and New York, any type
of tomato I grew was fantastic (as were most of the other veggies).

In fairness, the ones grown in the much warmer interior of BC are
better, but somehow they never make it here... they send us Mexican
"Vine ripened" before we get BC Okanagan. Also, they gas them here to
"ripen" the green tomatoes, and they stink (literally) - they smell of
methane. It's a crime!
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There is a reason you never should put a tomato in the fridge. This is what
you are doing with your overnight temps. Sounds like your only other choice
is to grow them in a controlled environment. FWIW, you smell ethylene
(C2H4), not methane (CH4). Ethylene, aka ethane is used to ripen fruits and
is also given off by bananas as they ripen. Which is why the old
recommendation to put a banana in a paper bag with the fruit you wish to
ripen.
 
Ed said:
There is a reason you never should put a tomato in the fridge. This is what
you are doing with your overnight temps. Sounds like your only other choice
is to grow them in a controlled environment. FWIW, you smell ethylene
(C2H4), not methane (CH4). Ethylene, aka ethane is used to ripen fruits and
is also given off by bananas as they ripen. Which is why the old
recommendation to put a banana in a paper bag with the fruit you wish to
ripen.
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Apples work, too. The fruit, not the computer. As a ripening accelerant,
I mean.

TJ
 
Arthur said:
I wish that were the problem, really. I live in a rural area and all my
neighbors are farmers (many organic), and I have tried their tomatoes,
and many others direct from the farm. The problem, in part, is the
weather here. We have cold nights most of the summer. Also, we have
grown numerous varieties of tomatoes, even early ripening types, but
none have the taste I'm after. The closest to "tasty" are those little
cherry type. When I had a garden in New Jersey and New York, any type
of tomato I grew was fantastic (as were most of the other veggies).

In fairness, the ones grown in the much warmer interior of BC are
better, but somehow they never make it here... they send us Mexican
"Vine ripened" before we get BC Okanagan. Also, they gas them here to
"ripen" the green tomatoes, and they stink (literally) - they smell of
methane. It's a crime!

Art
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The soil types could very well have something to do with it. Acid/base,
trace nutrient balances, that sort of thing. I live in an area with
cooler summertime nights, too - definitely cooler than New Jersey - and
local folks rave about my tomatoes. Then again, being farther north than
New Jersey, I get longer days of sunshine in the summer than they do.

TJ
 
TJ said:
Apples work, too. The fruit, not the computer. As a ripening accelerant,
I mean.

TJ
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TJ
I nearly didn't read the "The fruit, not the computer" part and was rushing out
to buy an Apple computer to help my tomatoes ripen, good job I read it again
before I picked up my wallet. Whew!
I guess I must be overwhelmed with the trolling going on in this ng at the
moment. Always a pleasure to read your posts.
Tony
 
Tony said:
TJ
I nearly didn't read the "The fruit, not the computer" part and was rushing out
to buy an Apple computer to help my tomatoes ripen, good job I read it again
before I picked up my wallet. Whew!
I guess I must be overwhelmed with the trolling going on in this ng at the
moment. Always a pleasure to read your posts.
Tony
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Actually, I haven't heard of any studies of the tomato-ripening powers
of OS X. Maybe you should try it after all. Or maybe put the tomato
between two iPhones...

Thanks, Tony. I appreciate the kind word. I needed one. I'm afraid I
gave the new guy (I'm not going to touch the identity controversy) the
benefit of the doubt far longer than I should have. He's a real piece of
work, worse than you-know-who in some ways. And I think Frank's gone so
far off the deep end he may never find his way back.

TJ
 
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