Need URGENT cooling advice!! I'm too scared to do anything much!

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Perdita X. Dream

Yes, it's me again! MBM is telling me that my CPU temp is currently 56°C, my
case temp is 44°C and something else (I don't know what sensor it's reading)
is 28°C. Now, this is almost idle (all I'm doing is surfing and
newsgroups) - I was going to have a game of Lionheart tonight, but I daren't
in case it cooks something! I applied AS3 according to AS's instructions,
but there has been no reduction in temperature at all (if anything, it's
gone up by nearly 10°C!) I'm on a limited budget (and I'm no overclocking
expert, so I wouldn't dare attempt water even if I could afford it). Maybe I
didn't apply enough AS, or maybe the heatsink's crap (all fans/heatsink were
purchased from Chillblast). You could cook your breakfast on the GPU! Some
form of HD cooling would be useful too.

I need the best cooling solution (I reckon I could afford to spend about
£80).

Can someone assist? Computing is supposed to be a pleasurable experience,
not one spent worrying whether it's going to cook!

Thanks folks!
 
Yes, it's me again! MBM is telling me that my CPU temp is currently 56°C, my
case temp is 44°C and something else (I don't know what sensor it's reading)
is 28°C. Now, this is almost idle (all I'm doing is surfing and
newsgroups) - I was going to have a game of Lionheart tonight, but I daren't
in case it cooks something! I applied AS3 according to AS's instructions,
but there has been no reduction in temperature at all (if anything, it's
gone up by nearly 10°C!) I'm on a limited budget (and I'm no overclocking
expert, so I wouldn't dare attempt water even if I could afford it). Maybe I
didn't apply enough AS, or maybe the heatsink's crap (all fans/heatsink were
purchased from Chillblast). You could cook your breakfast on the GPU! Some
form of HD cooling would be useful too.

I need the best cooling solution (I reckon I could afford to spend about
£80).

Can someone assist? Computing is supposed to be a pleasurable experience,
not one spent worrying whether it's going to cook!

Thanks folks!
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How many case fans do you have?
I have one.I run an AMD XP O/C 143/143 and my max under load gaming
temps are around 50/53 Deg C which is well within spec.
I don't think you need to spend more money.I suspect you can remove
some case fans,tidy up some cables and of course the obvious,lower the
room temp as the air required to cool the system has to come from
somewhere ;-)
Also I space my PCI cards where possible so air can flow around them
and don't restrict the back of the case where my one back 80mm case
fan is.



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Shep© said:
How many case fans do you have?
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Two. No, wait, I lie - three, this case has one in the chassis door.
I have one.I run an AMD XP O/C 143/143 and my max under load gaming
temps are around 50/53 Deg C which is well within spec.
I don't think you need to spend more money.I suspect you can remove
some case fans,tidy up some cables and of course the obvious,lower the
room temp as the air required to cool the system has to come from
somewhere ;-)
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It is winter and this is the coldest room in the house! The case is already
about as neat as it can be. I'm just worried because 72°C under mild load is
not exactly a healthy state of affairs.
Also I space my PCI cards where possible so air can flow around them
and don't restrict the back of the case where my one back 80mm case
fan is.
Click to expand...

I only have one PCI card (my sound card which is in the furthest slot from
the Radeon. Unless you count the USB2 hub.

I'm naive so teach me...What about my PSU, I would assume it's sufficient?
 
Two. No, wait, I lie - three, this case has one in the chassis door.


It is winter and this is the coldest room in the house! The case is already
about as neat as it can be. I'm just worried because 72°C under mild load is
not exactly a healthy state of affairs.
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72!!!!!!!
Bloody hell.
Check the orientation of your HS to the CPU.Sound's like you have it
the wrong way round.If there is a lip underneath it that should match
the raised lip of the CPU well?



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Shep© said:
72!!!!!!!
Bloody hell.
Check the orientation of your HS to the CPU.Sound's like you have it
the wrong way round.If there is a lip underneath it that should match
the raised lip of the CPU well?
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OK, I'll check in the morning, but I'm 99.95% certain I screwed it back on
the right way round. It's one of those that screws directly into the board,
not a clip jobbie. But, knowing me....

Thanks, Shep, I'll post back tomorrow at some point after I've had the board
out again...:o(
 
Perdita X. Dream said:
Yes, it's me again! MBM is telling me that my CPU temp is currently 56°C, my
case temp is 44°C and something else (I don't know what sensor it's reading)
is 28°C. Now, this is almost idle (all I'm doing is surfing and
newsgroups) - I was going to have a game of Lionheart tonight, but I daren't
in case it cooks something! I applied AS3 according to AS's instructions,
but there has been no reduction in temperature at all (if anything, it's
gone up by nearly 10°C!) I'm on a limited budget (and I'm no overclocking
expert, so I wouldn't dare attempt water even if I could afford it). Maybe I
didn't apply enough AS, or maybe the heatsink's crap (all fans/heatsink were
purchased from Chillblast). You could cook your breakfast on the GPU! Some
form of HD cooling would be useful too.

I need the best cooling solution (I reckon I could afford to spend about
£80).

Can someone assist? Computing is supposed to be a pleasurable experience,
not one spent worrying whether it's going to cook!

Thanks folks!
Click to expand...

If your temps went up 10c after appling new thermal compound there's no
doubt your heat sink aint sunk! In other words you put the HS on wrong.

Hank
 
didn't apply enough AS, or maybe the heatsink's crap (all fans/heatsink
were
purchased from Chillblast). You could cook your breakfast on the GPU! Some
form of HD cooling would be useful too.
Click to expand...

Probably TOO MUCH compound. It's a lot easier to over do it that under do
it.

Make sure the heat sink is on the correct way around, and that it has even
pressure. If it uses multiple screws to hold it in place, be sure you turn
all the screws the same number of turns.
 
Phrederick said:
Probably TOO MUCH compound. It's a lot easier to over do it that
under do it.

Make sure the heat sink is on the correct way around, and that it has
even pressure. If it uses multiple screws to hold it in place, be
sure you turn all the screws the same number of turns.
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The layer was about the thickness of an 80gsm sheet of A4 (sorry I don't
speak American so I don't know what that is in lbs/sq yd). I have taken it
off again this morning and it was the right way round. Spoke to Chillblast
this morning and I've purchased a Thermaltake heatsink (which, according to
Ben, has a nasty sticky label over the base - what's the best way to make
sure it's all removed?)

Thanks
 
Two. No, wait, I lie - three, this case has one in the chassis door.


It is winter and this is the coldest room in the house! The case is already
about as neat as it can be. I'm just worried because 72°C under mild load is
not exactly a healthy state of affairs.
Click to expand...

Yikes! I would have thought the Motherboard's overheat protection
would have shut you down by then (Mine defaults to 60C). A few of
possibilities come to mind:

1. When you installed the cooler, you didn't remove the "protective"
plastic on the base of the heat sink. It's clear plastic on some of
them, and some coolers don't come with instructions, so it's possible
to miss it. With the plastic in place, the heat sink just isn't going
to make any contact, all the AS3 in the world won't help you.

2. The cooler was installed crooked. Some designs make it virtually
impossible to seat it improperly this way if oriented properly, but I
guess it's possible to still put it on backwards. If this is the
case, remove it carefully, clean off the die and inspect it. This
mistake can crack or chip the core because if it's making contact at
all, it might be doing so unevenly.

3. The cooler's fan wire wasn't connected properly. You'd probably
have noticed this, as the CPU fan wouldn't be spinning. Of course, to
see this, the side panel would have to be off, and most people don't
power up the system until after the panel's in place. Anyways, if
the CPU fan isn't spinning, all you've got is a passive heat sink, in
which case, I'd say the heatsink efficiency is pretty good (all things
considered) -- but the situation is definitely not good.
I only have one PCI card (my sound card which is in the furthest slot from
the Radeon. Unless you count the USB2 hub.

I'm naive so teach me...What about my PSU, I would assume it's sufficient?
Click to expand...

I would make the suggestion to check that all the fans are oriented
such that there is a directional flow through the case (in the front,
out the back, since the PSU fan blows out the back). Of course, even
if air flow was really bad, with fans blowing every which way, I would
expect better cooling than what you're getting.
 
The layer was about the thickness of an 80gsm sheet of A4 (sorry I don't
speak American so I don't know what that is in lbs/sq yd). I have taken it
off again this morning and it was the right way round. Spoke to Chillblast
this morning and I've purchased a Thermaltake heatsink (which, according to
Ben, has a nasty sticky label over the base - what's the best way to make
sure it's all removed?)

Thanks
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If it's on the HS drop it in boiling water and then clean off a
plastic knife/spatula and then polish the HS bottom with a rubbing
compound/metal polish.If you don't have any compound toothpaste will
do.



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mcheu said:
Yikes! I would have thought the Motherboard's overheat protection
would have shut you down by then (Mine defaults to 60C). A few of
possibilities come to mind:

1. When you installed the cooler, you didn't remove the "protective"
plastic on the base of the heat sink. It's clear plastic on some of
them, and some coolers don't come with instructions, so it's possible
to miss it. With the plastic in place, the heat sink just isn't going
to make any contact, all the AS3 in the world won't help you.
Click to expand...

I have been building/upgrading systems for the better part of 20 years. This
isn't a cheapo heatsink that *HAS* a thermal pad. Do you really think I'd be
stupid enough to purchase one that did?

2. The cooler was installed crooked. Some designs make it virtually
impossible to seat it improperly this way if oriented properly, but I
guess it's possible to still put it on backwards. If this is the
case, remove it carefully, clean off the die and inspect it. This
mistake can crack or chip the core because if it's making contact at
all, it might be doing so unevenly.
Click to expand...

Nope it's definitely straight...
3. The cooler's fan wire wasn't connected properly. You'd probably
have noticed this, as the CPU fan wouldn't be spinning. Of course, to
see this, the side panel would have to be off, and most people don't
power up the system until after the panel's in place. Anyways, if
the CPU fan isn't spinning, all you've got is a passive heat sink, in
which case, I'd say the heatsink efficiency is pretty good (all things
considered) -- but the situation is definitely not good.
Click to expand...

Erm, it's plugged in...
 
I have been building/upgrading systems for the better part of 20 years. This
isn't a cheapo heatsink that *HAS* a thermal pad. Do you really think I'd be
stupid enough to purchase one that did?
Click to expand...

Look, I'm trying to help. It wasn't intended to be insulting. I'm
sorry that you didn't find my suggestions helpful, but there's no need
to be rude about it.
 
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