Need new PCI Express board.

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Prometheus Xex

Then I need to look for a PCIE board that offers 4-5 slots for add-ons.
Never seem to find boards with more than that. I've always liked the ASUS
MOBO's, but will look at others. Not looking for a mega dollar board, but
it would be nice if it would have onboard sound (I will add extra sound card
too), network and maybe modem. Any PCIE board come to mind?

Prometheus Xex
 
If you refer to a Motherboard with 4 to 5 PCIe slots, then you may not
find one. I've seen motherboards with two 16 x PCIe slots and two 1x
PCIe slots ~ which would be four PCI express slots. The problem is that
the newer mobo's can support up to two video graphics cards, so you get
two 16x slots. However, I have only ever heard of one other [non-video]
card designed to support 1x PCI express. It's just to soon to expect
non-video PCIe cards.

You only get 7 expansion slots, so two PCIe video slots, and two PCIe
1x expansion slots leaves three other slots for parallel PCI. Having
the three PCI expansion slots works well for the computer because most
cards are still PCI bus related.

I maintain a page with motherboard manufacturers here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Mother_Board_Manufacturers.html
 
Oh you can get 4-slot PCI Express Mother Boards from Abit. Again it's 2
PCIe 16x slots, and 2 PCIe 1x slots. Instead of the 1x expansion slots,
they may be 4x slots, I don't recall.

Oh my main page is here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/

Sorry for the second posting
 
It doesn't have to be 5 pcie slots... as I know since it seems that the PCIE
seems to be the new AGP. I need as many expansion slots as I can get. Seems
to me that the board manufactures are forgetting about people like me who
like to add lots of crap to their MOBO's.


- Prometheus Xex
 
Not really. Just now you need to replace your motherboard having AGP
slots with a motherboard produced with PCIe slots ~ so you need two PCI
express slots to replace the 1 or 2 AGP slots on you current Mother
Board. Then you can run two video cards at the same time.

Refer to this page for a graphic of the speed improvement:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Video_Bus_Through-put_comparison.html

The MotherBoard may contain up to 7 board expansion slots, but no
non-video PCIe cards are being produced. If you need expansion slots,
then the way to go is PCI.

Remember if you could get a Mother Board with all PCIe slots and no
daughter cards were being produced then you could not up-grade until
next year ~ when a new card came out. Your Mobo is obsolete at this
point.

Next year equates to SATA III, an up-graded AMD processor foot-print
format and a number of other computer up-grades I couldn't guess at.

http://www.interfacebus.com/
 
"Prometheus Xex" said:
It doesn't have to be 5 pcie slots... as I know since it seems that the PCIE
seems to be the new AGP. I need as many expansion slots as I can get. Seems
to me that the board manufactures are forgetting about people like me who
like to add lots of crap to their MOBO's.


- Prometheus Xex
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Try the Newegg selector. If you have a lot of old PCI cards you
want to reuse (what most normal people would want), you will not
be happy with the boards you can find. What the motherboard makers
have done, is "done you a favor". They could have removed all
the PCI slots, but instead, they leave a few on there, so you
won't be too pissed. Aren't they the nicest bunch of guys ?

This is the Intel motherboard selector:

http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=280

Set the PCI slot selector in the right hand column, to some
number of PCI slots, then see what boards pop up. Set the
PCI Express x16 selector to "1", and that will select only
PCI Express motherboards. Setting it to "2" would select
SLI boards, and those are a loser, because they cut out a
potential PCI slot for you.

Finding an Intel PCI Express board like this, with four PCI
slots, is probably the best you can do. I looked at an ICH7
Southbridge datasheet, and it says it support 6 PCI req/gnt
pairs, which should mean up to 6 PCI bus mastering devices
could be connected. But I doubt any motherboard maker would
give you all of those as slots. Some of them get used for
things like PCI LAN chips and the like.

The Newegg selector is tiny compare to this tool.

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/

The problem with the MOBOT, is it doesn't have a option to
indicate how many PCI slots you want. But at least each
motherboard listed seems to have a picture, so you can
go through the returned boards and see how many PCI's they
have.

And just to prove it can be done, here is a board with
5 PCI slots. You won't find this at the Best Buy...

http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/mb885.htm

HTH,
Paul
www.interfacebus.com said:
If you refer to a Motherboard with 4 to 5 PCIe slots, then you may not
find one. I've seen motherboards with two 16 x PCIe slots and two 1x
PCIe slots ~ which would be four PCI express slots. The problem is that
the newer mobo's can support up to two video graphics cards, so you get
two 16x slots. However, I have only ever heard of one other [non-video]
card designed to support 1x PCI express. It's just to soon to expect
non-video PCIe cards.

You only get 7 expansion slots, so two PCIe video slots, and two PCIe
1x expansion slots leaves three other slots for parallel PCI. Having
the three PCI expansion slots works well for the computer because most
cards are still PCI bus related.

I maintain a page with motherboard manufacturers here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Mother_Board_Manufacturers.html
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Prometheus said:
It doesn't have to be 5 pcie slots... as I know since it seems that
the PCIE seems to be the new AGP. I need as many expansion slots as
I can get. Seems to me that the board manufactures are forgetting
about people like me who like to add lots of crap to their MOBO's.


- Prometheus Xex

www.interfacebus.com said:
If you refer to a Motherboard with 4 to 5 PCIe slots, then you may
not find one. I've seen motherboards with two 16 x PCIe slots and
two 1x PCIe slots ~ which would be four PCI express slots. The
problem is that the newer mobo's can support up to two video
graphics cards, so you get two 16x slots. However, I have only ever
heard of one other [non-video] card designed to support 1x PCI
express. It's just to soon to expect non-video PCIe cards.

You only get 7 expansion slots, so two PCIe video slots, and two PCIe
1x expansion slots leaves three other slots for parallel PCI. Having
the three PCI expansion slots works well for the computer because
most cards are still PCI bus related.

I maintain a page with motherboard manufacturers here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Mother_Board_Manufacturers.html
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

I know that my Intel D915PBL has 4 PCI slots but I feel the construction is
a bit sloppy. There are some caps on the board that rise a bit to high and
can obstruct a PCI board installation.
http://home.comcast.net/~proto-tracer/Caps.jpg
Along with the need to have the PCI-E slot so close to the first PCI slot
makes it very difficult when a large graphics card like the one in this
photo takes up two PCI slots itself.
 
Just out of curiosity... which ATI card you got. I'm looking at possibly
the X800 as that's what started my MOBO search.

- Prometheus Xex
 
I bought ASUS P5WD2 Premiun. You could put on it 600 and 800 serry.
- I run p4 820 with
-2 giga ram
- reid 0
-video ATI 600 all in wonder 250 mb

Boba Vankufer
 
Old PCI card doesn't have 64 bit drivers, so generaly speking they are
useless.

Boba Vankufer
Paul said:
"Prometheus Xex" said:
It doesn't have to be 5 pcie slots... as I know since it seems that the
PCIE
seems to be the new AGP. I need as many expansion slots as I can get.
Seems
to me that the board manufactures are forgetting about people like me who
like to add lots of crap to their MOBO's.


- Prometheus Xex
Click to expand...

Try the Newegg selector. If you have a lot of old PCI cards you
want to reuse (what most normal people would want), you will not
be happy with the boards you can find. What the motherboard makers
have done, is "done you a favor". They could have removed all
the PCI slots, but instead, they leave a few on there, so you
won't be too pissed. Aren't they the nicest bunch of guys ?

This is the Intel motherboard selector:

http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=280

Set the PCI slot selector in the right hand column, to some
number of PCI slots, then see what boards pop up. Set the
PCI Express x16 selector to "1", and that will select only
PCI Express motherboards. Setting it to "2" would select
SLI boards, and those are a loser, because they cut out a
potential PCI slot for you.

Finding an Intel PCI Express board like this, with four PCI
slots, is probably the best you can do. I looked at an ICH7
Southbridge datasheet, and it says it support 6 PCI req/gnt
pairs, which should mean up to 6 PCI bus mastering devices
could be connected. But I doubt any motherboard maker would
give you all of those as slots. Some of them get used for
things like PCI LAN chips and the like.

The Newegg selector is tiny compare to this tool.

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/

The problem with the MOBOT, is it doesn't have a option to
indicate how many PCI slots you want. But at least each
motherboard listed seems to have a picture, so you can
go through the returned boards and see how many PCI's they
have.

And just to prove it can be done, here is a board with
5 PCI slots. You won't find this at the Best Buy...

http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/mb885.htm

HTH,
Paul
www.interfacebus.com said:
If you refer to a Motherboard with 4 to 5 PCIe slots, then you may not
find one. I've seen motherboards with two 16 x PCIe slots and two 1x
PCIe slots ~ which would be four PCI express slots. The problem is that
the newer mobo's can support up to two video graphics cards, so you get
two 16x slots. However, I have only ever heard of one other [non-video]
card designed to support 1x PCI express. It's just to soon to expect
non-video PCIe cards.

You only get 7 expansion slots, so two PCIe video slots, and two PCIe
1x expansion slots leaves three other slots for parallel PCI. Having
the three PCI expansion slots works well for the computer because most
cards are still PCI bus related.

I maintain a page with motherboard manufacturers here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Mother_Board_Manufacturers.html
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