Nasty trick saving hyperlinks in crashes

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Greg

It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?
 
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to keep
Word from crashing so much:
1. http://www.officearticles.com/misc/how_to_clean_up_your_hard_drive.htm
2.
http://www.officearticles.com/word/steps_to_troubleshooting_microsoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com
 
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as I
try something always seems to get away from me.
 
I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.
 
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.
 
Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under Tools
Options > File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based on
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that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location. Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!
 
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.
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Oh, I quite agree :)

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.
(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]
Click to expand...

I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Tony Jollans said:
Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under Tools on
that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location. Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


I'm
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it
a

http://www.officearticles.com/word/steps_to_troubleshooting_microsoft_word. you and
the
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Yes, once I find something that will crash Word, it will dependably crash it
every time I try. But of course the definition of insanity is doing the same
thing over and over and expecting different results. <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Tony Jollans said:
... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.
Click to expand...

Oh, I quite agree :)

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.
(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]
Click to expand...

I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just
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experienced
a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
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newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

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set should
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based
on location.
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carrying
an
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backups
at guess
I'm hard it

http://www.officearticles.com/word/steps_to_troubleshooting_microsoft_word. then
you
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it
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Suzanne's hyperlink is a most useful overview. I see from it that I
wasn't using the accepted terminology to describe the situation, but
near enough.

Tony's take on how the realities of the hyperlinks looks like it
leads me to a long term solution. Since all my data are stored on drive
D, I've changed the default autorecovery drive to D:\. If that
doesn't do the trick, I'll go through the save and relocate routine
he suggests.

Tony said:
... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.
Click to expand...

Oh, I quite agree :)

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.
(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]
Click to expand...

I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Tony Jollans said:
Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes,

Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under Tools
Options > File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based on
that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location. Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm
just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as
Click to expand...
hard
as
I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find
Click to expand...
it
a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some
things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/how_to_clean_up_your_hard_drive.htm
2.



http://www.officearticles.com/word/steps_to_troubleshooting_microsoft_word.
htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you
can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and
the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink
becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
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