My system won't POST- A64 3200 Venice, DFI NF4 Ultra-D

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I've had a sort of comedy of errors lately. Ewiz shipped me a Zalman
7700 CPU cooler, an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice, a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D,
and some Arctic Silver 5, and today I received 1GB of Value VX from
ComputerHQ. When I took a second look at my CPU (after my newly-built
computer failed to POST), I noticed that there were several bent pins,
which I fixed (or at least was able to make each pin fit into the
corresponding hole in the socket, which probably counts as fixing).
Again, after connecting all the power and plugging in my RAM and HSF,
my computer failed to POST. The CPU looks physically fine, except for a
tiny bit of AS5 on a couple pins, and the CPU is receiving power (it
gets hot when I take the Zalman off for a couple seconds), but I have
absolutely no idea what is wrong. All fans work, so the motherboard is
receiving power, but I'm stuck. The diagnostic LEDs on the mobo are
all red, which means "System Start-Up", one green light means CPU
detected, and so on. Anyway, I have never yet seen any green lights on
my LEDs, and so it's not POSTing. If you guys have any ideas of what I
could do, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-adg1034
 
I've had a sort of comedy of errors lately. Ewiz shipped me a Zalman
7700 CPU cooler, an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice, a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D,
and some Arctic Silver 5, and today I received 1GB of Value VX from
ComputerHQ. When I took a second look at my CPU (after my newly-built
computer failed to POST), I noticed that there were several bent pins,
which I fixed (or at least was able to make each pin fit into the
corresponding hole in the socket, which probably counts as fixing).
Again, after connecting all the power and plugging in my RAM and HSF,
my computer failed to POST. The CPU looks physically fine, except for a
tiny bit of AS5 on a couple pins, and the CPU is receiving power (it
gets hot when I take the Zalman off for a couple seconds), but I have
absolutely no idea what is wrong. All fans work, so the motherboard is
receiving power, but I'm stuck. The diagnostic LEDs on the mobo are
all red, which means "System Start-Up", one green light means CPU
detected, and so on. Anyway, I have never yet seen any green lights on
my LEDs, and so it's not POSTing. If you guys have any ideas of what I
could do, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-adg1034
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First.....CLEAN THOSE PINS OFF!!!!!
Then take everything out except one stick of memory and the cpu and
fan, then if that works add the second stick of ram. If it does not
work with the first stick of ram, switch sticks and try that, you
could have some bad memory. Step by step slowly add everything back
until it fails, then you will know what is wrong. If NONE of the above
works, take the memory out and leave just the cpu and fan in, the
machine should start beeping signifying that there is no memory, if
this does not happen then you have a cpu issue. Check for more bent
pins, more AS5 on the pins. etc. When you use AS squirt a SMALL AMOUNT
and then spread VERY thin with the edge of a credit card or something
similar. More is NOT better in this case!!!
 
I've had a sort of comedy of errors lately. Ewiz shipped me a Zalman
7700 CPU cooler, an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice, a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D,
and some Arctic Silver 5, and today I received 1GB of Value VX from
ComputerHQ. When I took a second look at my CPU (after my newly-built
computer failed to POST), I noticed that there were several bent pins,
which I fixed (or at least was able to make each pin fit into the
corresponding hole in the socket, which probably counts as fixing).
Again, after connecting all the power and plugging in my RAM and HSF,
my computer failed to POST. The CPU looks physically fine, except for a
tiny bit of AS5 on a couple pins, and the CPU is receiving power (it
gets hot when I take the Zalman off for a couple seconds), but I have
absolutely no idea what is wrong. All fans work, so the motherboard is
receiving power, but I'm stuck. The diagnostic LEDs on the mobo are
all red, which means "System Start-Up", one green light means CPU
detected, and so on. Anyway, I have never yet seen any green lights on
my LEDs, and so it's not POSTing. If you guys have any ideas of what I
could do, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-adg1034
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You sound like a computer hazard to me, leave it well alone and let someone
who knows what they're doing sort it out.

You removed heatsink while PC was powered up?!?!
You got AS5 on CPU pins and didn't remove it before use?!?!
You fitted CPU with bent pins!?!? How?
What PSU are you using, it's vital that it's native 24pin and high quality
for use with that DFI board.
Did you plug in ALL the power connectors to the board? All four of them???
24pin ATX, 4pin P4, Molex, Floppy power cables >to the board

If you are at a complete loss, http://www.dfi-street.com/


Tony
 
No, the PC was not powered up; I know enough about computers not to do
that. The AS5 got on the pins after I realized some pins are
bent. My P/S is a MGE Vigor450, which has 20 pins (I think), but I
thought you could connect all the other power cables (like the 4-pin
P4) to compensate. I didn't fit the CPU with bent pins; I bent them
back to the right positions, then set it in the socket, which it fit.
And yes, all the power cables are plugged in.
 
No, the PC was not powered up; I know enough about computers not to do
that. The AS5 got on the pins after I realized some pins are bent.
My P/S is a MGE Vigor450, which has 20 pins (I think), but I thought you
could connect all the other power cables (like the 4-pin P4) to
compensate. I didn't fit the CPU with bent pins; I bent them back to the
right positions, then set it in the socket, which it fit. And yes, all the
power cables are plugged in.
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That 450W PSU may not have enough power to boot the system. I had a 400W
that wouldn't work. Mostly depends on the +12v rail. If it isn't 16A or
more, you're likely to have problems. Over 20A is preferred.

Also could be a board with an older bios that doesn't supprt the venice
core. Bios version should be on the board or bnox somewhere. Check that.

I'd try to power it up outside the case with only ram and video card
installed to try and narrow the problem down.
 
Believe me, I tried powering it up outside the case. I'm hearing that
the 20-pin ATX cable could mess up my system, even if the CPU worked,
so I'm trying to figure that problem out, too.
 
adg1034 said:
No, the PC was not powered up; I know enough about computers not to do
that. The AS5 got on the pins after I realized some pins are
bent. My P/S is a MGE Vigor450, which has 20 pins (I think), but I
thought you could connect all the other power cables (like the 4-pin
P4) to compensate. I didn't fit the CPU with bent pins; I bent them
back to the right positions, then set it in the socket, which it fit.
And yes, all the power cables are plugged in.
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The BIOS should be fine for getting Venice up and running, worry about
updating BIOS when/if it's working. You might try different RAM slots, I
think the older BIOS has main support for orange slots running dual-channel.
Try just one stick in orange, then in yellow slots. Never heard of your
PSU, maybe you could borrow something more beefy from somewhere?

This http://www.dfi-street.com/ should help. Even if it's was working 100%,
that's still worth a visit.

Tony.
 
Believe me, I tried powering it up outside the case. I'm hearing that the
20-pin ATX cable could mess up my system, even if the CPU worked, so I'm
trying to figure that problem out, too.
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If the board has a 24pin connector, you may need a 20->24pin adapter if
the board isolates one of the extra pins of the 24 pin conn.
 
I've tried DFI-Street. Actually, I've got a thread on there, one here,
one on [H]Forum, and one on the AMD forums, just to cover all my bases
to try and get this working. But, thanks for the advice.
 
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