my brain is melting; router loses connection when PC turns off

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I have been going thru hell.

my previous system with an ABIT motherboard worked
fine...i updated now to an ecs k7s5a pro and when i turn
off the computer none of my other roomates computers
connected thru my dlink 604 (latest firmware) router can
access the internet. i was using the built in SIS ethernet
port but changed it to a PCI based one when i started have
problems...then i changed the router TWICE...and still
everything works fine when my computer is on...but as soon
as i turn the computer off with the new ECS motherboard
everything stops that is connected with my router.

continued to....


my brain is melting.

To recap; I spent more time with the "tech experts' at the
phone company and they agreed that somehow my XP Pro was
acting as THE NETWORK for my other computers connected to
the router and so when MY PC was shut off no one else
connected to the router can access the web.

I tried some of the suggestions here like trying to
disable the Internet Sharing Services; but I am not sure
if I actually achieved that because what I did was go into
the control panel and into admin tools and into "services"
and disabled something called "Internet Connection
Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" where
i changed the startup from "automatic" to "disabled"...it
did not seem to work...I was still THE NETWORK according
to my other computers, not the router.

So therin lies the problem; the tech guys at the phone
company said I have to go to microsoft and "rip out" all
the guts of what XP is using to make me THE NETWORK. In
otherwords disable my PC as being a network for them. And
on a strange side note; when I attempt to use Network
Setup Wizard in XP pro it allows you basically two
options:
1) my computer connects DIRECTLY to the internet blah blah

2) the computer connects to the internet through other
computers blah blah

Well; when I try to choose option 1 (disconnected my
router and plugged the cable straight into my ethernet
card) XP refuses to allow me to do this. It warns me that
it CANNOT complete the network setup Wiz because other
computers CANNOT connect to the internet throught this
computer.

Well that sort of makes sense if I am the network and XP
thinks of me as this way; so it is refusing to let me go
solo.

Maybe I am misunderstanding all this; but it seems the
solution to my problem lies in disable my PC in XP pro as
the network. And for this solution I am hoping someone
here can outline the steps for me to do this....how do I
uninstall myself as THE NETWORK?


ps...and when I unplug myself from the router the other
computers in the house still are receiving internet data
thus reinforcing the fact that the router is just not
being let to do the job of being traffic cop. This being
the case, would manually entering DNS numbers help. And
would they be the DNS numbers of router...confused on that
issue...

ps 2.."For the modem connection right click on it choose
properties and then advanced. If you've got a tick under
Internet Connection sharing next to "Allow other network
users to connect through this computers internet connect"
you're then using internet connection sharing. Remove the
tick. "

I could not locate the above in XP pro...no tick that I
could see
 
"blair" said:
I have been going thru hell.

my previous system with an ABIT motherboard worked
fine...i updated now to an ecs k7s5a pro and when i turn
off the computer none of my other roomates computers
connected thru my dlink 604 (latest firmware) router can
access the internet. i was using the built in SIS ethernet
port but changed it to a PCI based one when i started have
problems...then i changed the router TWICE...and still
everything works fine when my computer is on...but as soon
as i turn the computer off with the new ECS motherboard
everything stops that is connected with my router.

continued to....


my brain is melting.

To recap; I spent more time with the "tech experts' at the
phone company and they agreed that somehow my XP Pro was
acting as THE NETWORK for my other computers connected to
the router and so when MY PC was shut off no one else
connected to the router can access the web.

I tried some of the suggestions here like trying to
disable the Internet Sharing Services; but I am not sure
if I actually achieved that because what I did was go into
the control panel and into admin tools and into "services"
and disabled something called "Internet Connection
Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" where
i changed the startup from "automatic" to "disabled"...it
did not seem to work...I was still THE NETWORK according
to my other computers, not the router.

So therin lies the problem; the tech guys at the phone
company said I have to go to microsoft and "rip out" all
the guts of what XP is using to make me THE NETWORK. In
otherwords disable my PC as being a network for them. And
on a strange side note; when I attempt to use Network
Setup Wizard in XP pro it allows you basically two
options:
1) my computer connects DIRECTLY to the internet blah blah

2) the computer connects to the internet through other
computers blah blah

Well; when I try to choose option 1 (disconnected my
router and plugged the cable straight into my ethernet
card) XP refuses to allow me to do this. It warns me that
it CANNOT complete the network setup Wiz because other
computers CANNOT connect to the internet throught this
computer.

Well that sort of makes sense if I am the network and XP
thinks of me as this way; so it is refusing to let me go
solo.

Maybe I am misunderstanding all this; but it seems the
solution to my problem lies in disable my PC in XP pro as
the network. And for this solution I am hoping someone
here can outline the steps for me to do this....how do I
uninstall myself as THE NETWORK?


ps...and when I unplug myself from the router the other
computers in the house still are receiving internet data
thus reinforcing the fact that the router is just not
being let to do the job of being traffic cop. This being
the case, would manually entering DNS numbers help. And
would they be the DNS numbers of router...confused on that
issue...

ps 2.."For the modem connection right click on it choose
properties and then advanced. If you've got a tick under
Internet Connection sharing next to "Allow other network
users to connect through this computers internet connect"
you're then using internet connection sharing. Remove the
tick. "

I could not locate the above in XP pro...no tick that I
could see

Tell the Network Setup Wizard "This computer connects to the Internet
through another computer on my network or through a residential
gateway". The Wizard calls a router a "residential gateway".

Make sure that Internet Connection Sharing isn't enabled on any
connection. Open the Network Connections folder and click View |
Details. If ICS is enabled, one of the network connections will say
"Shared" under the "Status" heading. If it does, right click the
connection, click Properties | Advanced, and disable ICS.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
If that doesn't work, my hunch is that a previous experiment with ICS prior
to getting the 604 has left your roommates' computers with DNS settings
pointing to your machine. Therefore, they would be using the 604 directly
for most things, but getting DNS via your machine.

That's nothing more than a hunch, but it's worth checking.

Oli
 
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