MVP's-Vista RTM

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Jeff

Welcome,

To all MVP's
who have just RECENTLY decided to join the Vista party,

;(lol-noticing some MVP's popping in now that Vista's RTM!! :-O!!)

Hi!!!

LOL

Jeff
PSSST!! YO, we've been around awhile-lol !!!!
 
Jeff said:
Welcome,

To all MVP's
who have just RECENTLY decided to join the Vista party,

;(lol-noticing some MVP's popping in now that Vista's RTM!! :-O!!)

Hi!!!

LOL

Jeff
PSSST!! YO, we've been around awhile-lol !!!!

Most of us have as well. From being involved in the beta as well as
watching these public groups. But as is typical for pre-released products,
the signal to noise ratio in the public groups has been such that most of
the questions/discussions tend to be speculative based, or are discussing
issues that no longer exist in builds being run by tech beta testers.

I suspect more on topic traffic to start picking up in here after full
launch at the end of January next year, and before then once Vista is made
available to MSDN and Technet.
 
Tom,

Just an observation;
but it strikes me as funny; jumpin on the bandwagon, for some.
And, if I may be so blunt;
We all started at ground zero with Vista; for the most part.Unless you've
got an MSFT at the end of your name; that is.
I don't deny; or disrespect, the MVP title; but to jump in at the
end;speculation;or not; and start prattling away; is funny.
MVP is something earned over time;and with a certain level of expertise; and
when it comes to Vista; again; ground zero for MOST here.
Lurking in the shadows; then coming out and rambling away; is humorous to
me.

Basically;
as I stated in a RTM post on Sunday; Jimmy B. should be the one with a Vista
MVP title;if anyone.


Jeff
 
I have been in these newsgroups since the day they were activated. I have
never seen as much BS in any other Microsoft newsgroup. The whining has been
incessant and distressing, especially from a few, whom I have blocked for
all time! If they ever have a real problem, I will never see their post, nor
do I want to. And because it is in their personality, they will not change.

The actual serious questions that have been asked here are about 25% of the
total posts. Many MVP's look, but will not enter into the nonsense. But, the
fact is, most of us have been honing our skills on Vista and will be here
when the product is made available to the general population.



--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Well Richard,
just an observation I made.

Jeff
P.S. I know you help people; you've helped me before;that's for sure.
 
Hmm,

An addendum,
A tad testy?
Just an FYI-lol
IMHO- From observations of these groups; since they began also;Jimmy B.
should be the one the first with a
Vista MVP title;if anyone. Maybe you could nominate him?
Grassroots campaigning?
Yup

Jeff


Jeff said:
Well Richard,
just an observation I made.

Jeff
P.S. I know you help people; you've helped me before;that's for sure.
 
Jeff said:
Hmm,

An addendum,
A tad testy?
Just an FYI-lol
IMHO- From observations of these groups; since they began also;Jimmy B.
should be the one the first with a
Vista MVP title;if anyone. Maybe you could nominate him?
Grassroots campaigning?
Yup

As an FYI, in the Windows category for MVP's, they are no longer specific to
any version of Windows. For Windows, the categories are:

Windows - DDK
Windows - Digital Media
Windows - DirectX
Windows - Dshow/Media Foundation
Windows - Help
Windows - Internet Explorer
Windows - Media Center
Windows - Mobile Devices
Windows - Networking
Windows - PC Games
Windows - Printing/Imaging
Windows - SDK
Windows - Security
Windows - Shell/User
Windows - SPOT Technologies
Windows - Tablet PC
Windows - Virtual Earth/MapPoint
Windows - Virtual Machine
Windows - Windows Embedded

For those who are especially helpful in general purpose groups such as this,
they usually end up in the Windows - Shell/User category.

If by Jimmy B you mean Jimmy Brush, author of http://www.jimmah.com/, then I
agree with you.
 
Jeff said:
Welcome,

To all MVP's
who have just RECENTLY decided to join the Vista party,

;(lol-noticing some MVP's popping in now that Vista's RTM!! :-O!!)

Hi!!!

LOL

Jeff
PSSST!! YO, we've been around awhile-lol !!!!

Fairweather supporters?
 
Well Tom,

I'll be his first campaign supporter; and seeing as I think you need a
nomination from an existing MVP;
Jimmy Brush for --- MVP Windows - Shell/User /file management /admin
accts&passwords etc.
The ball is in your court!!!!!
lol!

Jeff
 
Jeff said:
Well Tom,

I'll be his first campaign supporter; and seeing as I think you need a
nomination from an existing MVP;
Jimmy Brush for --- MVP Windows - Shell/User /file management /admin
accts&passwords etc.
The ball is in your court!!!!!

I submitted it (nomination) before I submitted my previous post.
 
lol
thats why i said

HI

Jeff

Richard G. Harper said:
No - as has been mentioned by others, mainly silent because there is so
little signal and so much noise in here. I have been here for quite some
time now.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Fairweather supporters?
 
I've seen some quintissentially stupid posts in the TBT groups for months.
They sure as hell don't have a corner on insight or Windows power use. Some
of it is embarassing.

CH
 
Tom which build newer than 5840 are lol TBT's runnin these days. Enlighten
me since you imply there is such advanced, sophisticated knowledge.

I've never seen more noise as to the signal to noise ratio on those groups
since July particularly Cafe and the General groups and they can never
figure out how to post in the appropriate group with a panoply of specific
choices. I've never seen so many thousands of "mommy mommy Wendy mommy kin
we have another build mommy posts" in the history of Windoz.

I've also seen ridiculous posts by a couple MVPs in the beta groups that
defy belief although they were MSN MVPs/Butterfly/Schmutterfly so I'm not
sure how much they can be held to a higher standard.

CH
 
What an arrogant elitist post for you Richard. And how overwhelmingly
disingenuous and hypocritical.

What a "Let them eat cake" post from the psueudo-Windows aristocracy so
satisfied with their self important congrats and Hi Fives.

You posted:

"I have never seen as much BS in any other Microsoft newsgroup."

Give us a break. Many of us see the beta groups as well as help here.

Oh yes you have lol unless you suffer from convenient transient episodic
blindness because a ton of the same 'BS' is replete on the Beta Cafe and
General group and ectopic metastatic posts on specific issues are sprayed
all over the map on those Beta groups into every group but the one
designated for them.

Plenty of the same stripe of posts are in other newsgroups, and they are
replete and voluminous in the TBT groups as well. I see those and the
public groups. When they exist in the Beta groups they are much less
defensible because this group is supposed to have more sohistication and
more advanced use habits but that lol "ain't necessarily so" to quote George
and Ira Gershwin.

There has been incessant whining and embarrassing synchophantic suck up
behavior in the Beta Cafe and General groups equal to anything you describe
and all the more shameful because a lot more information is provided there
to these "TBT infantile and often lazy babies".

Lol do you think if you don't answer their questions one of us can't take up
your slack? That's halarious.

What you haven't posted is that
1) TBTs have access to more builds normally although anyone can get any
build that has existed with the exception of internal Redmond builds via
Torrent.

2) TBTs are spoonfed information that prevents them from asking some of the
questions that they would ask if they didn't.

3) TBTs have access to regular chats on a calendar and they get answers to a
number of questions but that doesn't prevent them from posting the questions
that have been answered in those chats sometimes months previous to their
post because they are too lazy to read or find the chats. Many of the chats
have been made public by Jill Zoeller [MSFT] and nearly all are available on
scattered web sites but MSFT has been so primitive and extremelyt lazy so
far in posting relevant in depth info on Vista on MSFT's site that they
haven't shown up there.

Aside from the scant Win RE blog there has been little information posted on
Win RE or Startup Repair anywhere nor has there ever been an explanation of
why Startup Repair is so statistically weak as to actual success when
compared with a repair install in XP--provided people even have a media CD
(XP) or DVD (Vista) to do one. MSFT arm twists the 300 OEM partners to
insure they screw their cutomers out of them.

This is the type of scant and superficial information made available by MSFT
on Win RE and none of it in depth is on any Technet, MSDN or other MSFT
site.
http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/archive/2006/09/20/763901.aspx

Dell has finally told MSFT to stuff it in this area according to their blog.
Dell tells me that Scott Di Valerio's team (he's an accountant with no
engineering background who is the OEM VP---and not one OEM system builder
exists who couldn't clean his clock hardware or software wise--his job is to
screw MSFT customers who buy OEM preloaded machines out of an OS on media
and he has had about 600 million susccessful anorgasmic screwings of MSFT
customers.

Bloatware, Operating System Discs and Dell Software Support
http://www.direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2006/10/17/3132.aspx

"Other users have expressed concern about not having the operating system
reinstallation CD when they need it. When ordering a new machine, all
consumers and corporate customers can opt for the Windows CD for around $10.
Additionally, since July 2004, most new PCs (Dell gaming systems all ship
with the OS CD)come pre-loaded with a disk partition that contains PC
Restore, an applcation that allows users to reinstall system software
quickly. See these instructions for how to use PC Restore to reinstall the
operating system and Dell factory-installed applications in about 10
minutes.

Update: Thanks to Direct2Dell reader Steven and a couple of Dell employees
for pointing out a mistake I made in my original post. When I wrote this,
the OS media was listed as an option in the configurator for $0. I mis-read
the number, and for that mistake, I apologize. Also, though this been in
the works for some time before now, it's now official. For U.S. consumer
and small business customers, all systems will now ship with an operating
system disc. This change will take effect in Europe by later next month. In
Asia, things are unchanged—we've always shipped OS discs with systems
there."

Richard lol thanks for the arristocratic sharing that "many of you have been
honing yur skills." Most of us are overwhelmed with such studious
scholarship and just awed by your focus and devotion.

We just wish we had 'MSFT insight' and the intimate command of their sites
and the awesome connection to Redmond you did, and could only find the
start button. Sharing your pearls from on high is truly impressive but the
depth and bredth of your knowledge is so intimidating only matched by all
the MSFT syncophantic Pavolvian behavior that can find no fault ever.

Getting enough Swag?:

CH
 
LOL Jeff--aren't you dazzled by the BS and the implication of the
pseudo-casting of pearls to the unwashed swine by His Excellency the
Honorable Richard Urban the Viceroy of Windoz?

I don't know if this kind of hypocrisy reminds me more of abusive priests
that the Church covered for reprehensibly for years and years and the
Vatican fought to disguise or all the Republicans who preach against gay
marriage while hitting on children and frolicking in the closets that lent a
component into the massive firings of scum that took place in the House and
Senate despite the obsessive gerrymandering to stack the deck.

The only nuclear option Dr. Bill Frist can exercise now is the one locked on
and headed upwards toward his splenic flexure. He will be told when to
talk, what can come on to the floor, what can't and when to be quiet. He
will no longer be blocking substantive bills and oversight nor will he be
able to pass bills like the one that takes effect next week to deny emergent
treatment to thousands of infant and babies with critical illnesses.

Medicaid Wants Citizenship Proof For Infant Care
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...0A35752C1A9609C8B63&sec=health&pagewanted=all

By ROBERT PEAR
Published: November 3, 2006

CH
 
Plenty of noise with obliterated signal in the TBT groups with less excuse
for it. And the "mommy mommy Wendy give us a build right now" posts are
vomit inducing.

CH


Richard G. Harper said:
No - as has been mentioned by others, mainly silent because there is so
little signal and so much noise in here. I have been here for quite some
time now.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Fairweather supporters?
 
Chad said:
I've seen some quintissentially stupid posts in the TBT groups for months.
They sure as hell don't have a corner on insight or Windows power use. Some
of it is embarassing.

CH
Have They Crashed Microsoft Connect With Their F5 Refresh Keys Yet? I
wonder how surprised they are that they don't get RTM for Free?
 
Chad said:
Tom which build newer than 5840 are lol TBT's runnin these days. Enlighten
me since you imply there is such advanced, sophisticated knowledge.

I've never seen more noise as to the signal to noise ratio on those groups
since July particularly Cafe and the General groups and they can never
figure out how to post in the appropriate group with a panoply of specific
choices. I've never seen so many thousands of "mommy mommy Wendy mommy kin
we have another build mommy posts" in the history of Windoz.

I've also seen ridiculous posts by a couple MVPs in the beta groups that
defy belief although they were MSN MVPs/Butterfly/Schmutterfly so I'm not
sure how much they can be held to a higher standard.

CH
I think that I dumped out of the Technical Beta just at the right time,
Just FYI.
 
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