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Hi Guys, Look, I have found most of your replies and help really excellent
and... valuable. But just occasionally, it seems that you think: well lets
just polish of a few before we go home ... and rather than give a considered
answer seem to just suggest another website to visit for the answer. Or, if
you are really bored - give a sarcastic answer. It just does not help us
folks that need a bit of help. Most of us cannot cope with the tech stuff. we
just want an answer in a language we understand!

Forgive the moan. , having a bad day!
 
Moan forgiven. ;-)

But a couple of ( my personal ) comments inline:

Ginni said:
Hi Guys, Look, I have found most of your replies and help really excellent
and... valuable.

Thanks. I (we) try.

But just occasionally, it seems that you think: well lets
just polish of a few before we go home ...

Actually I probably am home.
You see, we're all volunteers. Pay for our own equipment, internet connection, and do this
on our "free" time.
Actually at the moment, I'm at my business office ( totally unrelated to MSFT or
FrontPage ) and typing this between phone calls.
One of which was just explaining to some idiot in a shipping department, why he can't ship a
truck load of freight from New Jersey to California for less money than the fuel will cost
to get there.

and rather than give a considered
answer seem to just suggest another website to visit for the answer.

Sometimes a link to a site with good information, is much more helpful than trying to craft
a detailed answer.

Or, if
you are really bored - give a sarcastic answer.
Normally only if the poster created an environment that invited a little sarcasm.
Especially when someone insists that they want to do something that can't be done.

It just does not help us
folks that need a bit of help. Most of us cannot cope with the tech stuff. we
just want an answer in a language we understand!

Sometimes we don't know the answer either and need to go looking through FP help, or the
Microsoft Develepors Network on line Library ( MSDN )
Or in my case the MSDN library on my personal machine.

But we all started at square one with FrontPage. I've been using it since version 98, and
I'm still finding new stuff in FP 2003.

Regards

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Ginni said:
Hi Guys, Look, I have found most of your replies and help really excellent
and... valuable. But just occasionally, it seems that you think: well lets
just polish of a few before we go home ... and rather than give a considered
answer seem to just suggest another website to visit for the answer. Or, if
you are really bored - give a sarcastic answer. It just does not help us
folks that need a bit of help. Most of us cannot cope with the tech stuff. we
just want an answer in a language we understand!

Forgive the moan. , having a bad day!

Well if we were getting paid (which we are not) those concerns would indeed
be legitimate. Not to mention all the people that also answer questions that
are not MVPs, that also answer questions.

Your getting the service your paying for basically, and any answer that can
point you in the right direction is better than no answer at all. I don't
always know the answer or have time to research it, but I usually know where
you can go to find out more info. If you require up to the minute right now
bang on answers then your going to have to pay out for them, there are
plenty of places around the net that do that.

Is this the ONLY place you come to for FrontPage answers? If so you need to
do what I did when I first started learning FrontPage, join lists, join
forums, go to expert sites and answer questions on subjects you know to gain
points to ask questions on subjects you don't.

If you need a list of other FrontPage resources for help let me know.

That said, the level of tech talk on a ng is higher than elsewhere - in my
experience, I also don't find it as personal as a list or a forum where one
is a member, which is one reason I prefer lists myself:)

Never put all your eggs in one basket.

Is there a specific question you really need help with?

Tina


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Hi Ginni,

A little constructive criticism is always helpful, and your criticism is
certainly of the constructive kind. I'm sure that others as well as myself
will take steps to ensure that we learn from your comments.

It's important to remember that we MVPs are not employees of Microsoft. We
do this voluntarily, and most of us do it out of a sense of responsibility
to the community of developers we all belong to. That said...
But just occasionally, it seems that you think: well lets
just polish of a few before we go home ...

It might seem that way, but you can't assume that is the case for anyone.
For example, I have been putting in 60-hour weeks for the past month or so,
and trying to get a little help in when I can. What little I can is not
entirely appreciated by my wife, who likely thinks of me as a "Rip Van
Winkle" type, not spending enough time taking care of *her.* In other words,
most of us have good reasons for being brief from time to time.
... and rather than give a considered
answer seem to just suggest another website to visit for the answer.

Why re-write the book, when it's a perfectly good book? In addition, when
one points a person to a reference, they are not only potentially answering
that person's present question, but also providing them with a resource they
can use for future reference.
Or, if
you are really bored - give a sarcastic answer.

I wouldn't assume that anyone giving a sarcastic answer is bored. More
likely they are frustrated, for any number of reasons, such as:

1. The question is asked on a nearly daily basis, and always gets the same
replies. But rather than seeing if they can find their answer in the
exisiting messages posted, the individual decides to ask it again. This is
just plain selfish.
2. A person asks a question with half a sentence, and expects a book in
reply. Quite often, this necessitates the painful process of trying to pull
information from the asker, one tooth at a time. Again, this is just plain
selfish.
3. if u cn rd this, ur 2 lazy. Communication is the process of exchanging
meaningful information. Pseudo-hacker slang may be "cool" to children, but
being "cool" doesn't pay the bills. We take time to carefully communicate
our answers; the least a person asking a question could do is take a little
time to write their question.
4. Viloations of netiquette, such as cross- and multi-posting. There are
reasons why these are violations of netiquette, and ignorance is no excuse.
It isn't hard to figure out why these are frowned upon. How may answers does
a person need? We try to help those who haven't been helped yet. But when we
find out they've asked the same question in a half-dozen other places, and
gotten a half-dozen answers already, we feel like chumps. We're not here to
waste our time. In addition, a person will often repeatedly post the same
question, and won't bother to look and see if the original question has been
answered. How many times must we repeat ourselves in order to satisfy
someone's selfishness?
5. When you put up with this (and other) sort of stuff on a daily basis for
years, you occasionally lose your composure and do something you really
shouldn't. Perhaps a little slack is in order. We all want a little slack
from time to time. And we should all give it when we can. As Pink Floyd once
sang: "And when they've given you their all, some stagger and fall, after
all, it's not easy... banging your heart against some mad buggers wall." ;-)
Most of us cannot cope with the tech stuff. we
just want an answer in a language we understand!

Believe it or not, that cuts both ways. We geeks often have as much trouble
talking "user" as users have trouble talking "geek." It's a consequence of
spending too much time with one's head buried in this stuff. We'll just have
to keep trying.
Forgive the moan. , having a bad day!

Hey, slack I can give! Hope your day gets better!

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer

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Ideas exist.
Therefore, God exists.
 
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