Multiscan feature on 35 mm scanner

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I've seen there is the possibility to use multiscan on the minolta scan
dual IV but not on the nikon coolscan V. Is it a real disadvantage ?

Is it possible on the nikon to take 2 scan (different exposure) to then
make a digital blending using photoshop ?

Regards
 
dia59 <[email protected]> said:
I've seen there is the possibility to use multiscan on the minolta scan
dual IV but not on the nikon coolscan V. Is it a real disadvantage ?
Yes.

Is it possible on the nikon to take 2 scan (different exposure) to then
make a digital blending using photoshop ?
Yes, it's possible. And if you are really lucky, both scans will line
up almost perfectly to give you a multiscan-type effect. If you aren't
lucky then you will get a fuzzy mess and develop a Don-like temperament
from trying to resample and align them to sub-pixel accuracy all the way
across the frame. ;-)
 
Yes, it's possible. And if you are really lucky, both scans will line
up almost perfectly to give you a multiscan-type effect. If you aren't
lucky then you will get a fuzzy mess and develop a Don-like temperament
from trying to resample and align them to sub-pixel accuracy all the way
across the frame. ;-)

Argh... Sub-pixel alignment... Growl... LS-50... Grrrr... ;o)

Don.
 
I've seen there is the possibility to use multiscan on the minolta scan
dual IV but not on the nikon coolscan V. Is it a real disadvantage ?

Is it possible on the nikon to take 2 scan (different exposure) to then
make a digital blending using photoshop ?

That's known as *multi*-pass multi-scanning, as opposed to regular,
*single*-pass multi-scanning.

As Kennedy mentioned, the problem is that multi-pass scans don't line
up. What's more, this misalignment is usually on sub-pixel level. And
that means having to line up the scans before you combined them
otherwise you'll be just blurring the image. Indeed, the same effect
can be achieved by applying a small amount of Gaussian Blur to the
shadows.

The problem is that in many cases 2 scans are just not enough and
you'll need 4 or 8 if not more. And lining them all up gets old real
quick! It also leads to boldness... You'll be tearing your hair out
before long... ;o)

What I'm doing instead is twin scans, one a regular scan (for
highlights) and another one with boosted exposure to bring out the
shadows. They still have to be sub-pixel aligned, but at least you
only have to do it once. The down side is that the two scans (due to
exposure difference) are no longer in "color-sync".

That means you will not only have to bring the shadow scan "down"
(darken it) but due to non-linear nature of color registration you
will also have to adjust its color to match the color of the normal
scan.

This sounds more complicated than it is, but the advantage is that you
will get much better shadow detail. Search the archives, because I've
described the procedure I came up with, several times before.

Don.
 
dia59 said:
I've seen there is the possibility to use multiscan on the minolta scan
dual IV but not on the nikon coolscan V. Is it a real disadvantage ?

Is it possible on the nikon to take 2 scan (different exposure) to then
make a digital blending using photoshop ?

Regards


Hello

It can be very successful. The NikonV is very accurate in making
consistent scans. Do all the scans at the same time and at the largest
resolution. I found that usually the scans were dead on or at the most 1
pixel out. The thing is that it is a pretty good scanner with a single
scan. Multiscanning is very timing consuming, but does not achieve a
significantly better result when using the CoolscanV. Multiscanning
worked pretty well with Coolscans 3 and 4.

I have a link to a Photoshop file with 9 scans. Alt click on the base
scan to see the effect. The other scans have various opacities and if
you double click the layers, you will see the layer blending. Switch
them all off and the switch them on one by one.
The scan is zipped 8MB and was done in April 1999 from a Kodachrome. I
think it was the Coolscan 3.

http://www.btinternet.com/~mike.engles/mike/Multiscan.zip


Mike Engles
 
dia59 said:
I've seen there is the possibility to use multiscan on the minolta scan
dual IV but not on the nikon coolscan V. Is it a real disadvantage ?

Is it possible on the nikon to take 2 scan (different exposure) to then
make a digital blending using photoshop ?

Regards


Hello

It can be very successful. The Nikon V is very accurate in making
consistent scans. Do all the scans at the same time and at the largest
resolution. I found that usually the scans were dead on or at the most 1
pixel out. The thing is that it is a pretty good scanner with a single
scan. Multiscanning is very timing consuming, but does not achieve a
significantly better result when using the Coolscan V. Multiscanning
worked pretty well with Coolscans 3 and 4.

I have a link to a Photoshop file with 9 scans. Alt click on the base
scan to see the effect. The other scans have various opacities and if
you double click the layers, you will see the layer blending. Switch
them all off and the switch them on one by one.
The scan is zipped 8MB and was done in April 1999 from a Kodachrome. I
think it was the Coolscan 3.

http://www.btinternet.com/~mike.engles/mike/Multiscan.zip

Mike Engles
 
Kennedy said:
Yes, it's possible. And if you are really lucky, both scans will line
up almost perfectly to give you a multiscan-type effect. If you aren't
lucky then you will get a fuzzy mess and develop a Don-like temperament
from trying to resample and align them to sub-pixel accuracy all the way
across the frame. ;-)
photomatix can du the job i a much simpler most perfect way.

micahel przewrocki
 
Kennedy said:
Yes, it's possible. And if you are really lucky, both scans will line
up almost perfectly to give you a multiscan-type effect. If you aren't
lucky then you will get a fuzzy mess and develop a Don-like temperament
from trying to resample and align them to sub-pixel accuracy all the way
across the frame. ;-)
why is multiscan used?

micahel przewrocki
 
MPA <[email protected]> said:
photomatix can du the job i a much simpler most perfect way.
From what I can see of the sample images it uses a similar technique for
a completely different result. There is also no indication of the
alignment accuracy which, as we know, is critical.
 
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