Multiple Routers

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Is it possible to run more than one router on a dsl line?

eg. one router connected via a phone jack and another router connected to a
different jack in another part of the building.
 
thomas said:
Is it possible to run more than one router on a dsl line?

eg. one router connected via a phone jack and another router
connected to a different jack in another part of the building.
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Not unless you have multiple public IPs and an ethernet switch between the
modem & your routers. What is it you're trying to do?
 
thomas said:
Is it possible to run more than one router on a dsl line?

eg. one router connected via a phone jack and another router connected to
a different jack in another part of the building.
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The second router would need to be used as an access point, not as a router.
Google "wireless access point" for more detail. If you don't want wireless
capabilities, simply use a switch in the other building.

Malke
 
I am trying to get better signal strength w/my wireless adapter.

I am upstairs on an old computer (1992 compaq proliant ml 330) with limited
pci slots. As of now the SCSI controller w/NIC is dedicated ;cannot be
removed; to a pci slot even though I am not using it (3x9.1gb's) that are
supposed to be attached to the controller, I bought a seagate 250gb sata IDE
and a Pioneer cd/dvd r/rw.

Back to the point.

I have a sound card, usb 2.0 card and an nvidia geforce 6200 video card on
the remaining 3 pci slots. I traded a d-link dwa-552 (15% to 30% signal
strength) for a d-link dwa-160 (2% to 10% signal strength)
 
thomas said:
I am trying to get better signal strength w/my wireless adapter.

I am upstairs on an old computer (1992 compaq proliant ml 330) with
limited
pci slots. As of now the SCSI controller w/NIC is dedicated ;cannot be
removed; to a pci slot even though I am not using it (3x9.1gb's) that are
supposed to be attached to the controller, I bought a seagate 250gb sata
IDE
and a Pioneer cd/dvd r/rw.

Back to the point.

I have a sound card, usb 2.0 card and an nvidia geforce 6200 video card on
the remaining 3 pci slots. I traded a d-link dwa-552 (15% to 30% signal
strength) for a d-link dwa-160 (2% to 10% signal strength)
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If all you want is better signal strength, then a repeater might solve the
problem.
Jim
 
I have looked into that but can't find one in my price range or that has had
good reviews.
 
Malke said:
The second router would need to be used as an access point, not as a router.
Google "wireless access point" for more detail. If you don't want wireless
capabilities, simply use a switch in the other building.

Malke
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Do I have to physicaly connect the AP to the router?
 
thomas said:
Do I have to physicaly connect the AP to the router?
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Well, of course it has to be on the same network! Typical setup (which I
have done for clients with outbuildings many times):

Bldg. 1 - cable/dsl modem wired to one wireless router. Ethernet cabling
done throughout the building with dataports in the various offices.

Bldg. 2 - Ethernet cabling coming from Bldg. 1 (or a central network closet
with a switch) with dataports in the various offices. Router 2 set up as an
access point (no DHCP) connected to one of the dataports or a switch.

The alternative is to purchase a second Internet connection from your ISP
and use the second wireless router there, making this a separate network
from your first one.

Malke
 
Range extenders, expanders, antenna relocation etc.- will all provide
increased coverage. Price ranges are with router costs.

You can use two routers - requirement would be to change the default setting
(usually 192.168.1.1) of one of the routers.

However your DSL provider may not provide such service under one contract.
 
Malke said:
Well, of course it has to be on the same network! Typical setup (which I
have done for clients with outbuildings many times):

Bldg. 1 - cable/dsl modem wired to one wireless router. Ethernet cabling
done throughout the building with dataports in the various offices.

Bldg. 2 - Ethernet cabling coming from Bldg. 1 (or a central network closet
with a switch) with dataports in the various offices. Router 2 set up as an
access point (no DHCP) connected to one of the dataports or a switch.

The alternative is to purchase a second Internet connection from your ISP
and use the second wireless router there, making this a separate network
from your first one.

Malke
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Here is the senario:

4 port wirelessr router in kitchen w/computer connected through one port, my
computer is upstairs w/wireless dongle.

I have a sound card, usb 2.0 card and an nvidia geforce 6200 video card in
the 3 pci slots and a SCSI controller w/NIC on the last pci slot. I traded a
d-link dwa-552 (15% to 30% signal strength) for a d-link dwa-160 (2% to 10%
signal strength)

I am trying to figure out a way to get better signal strength w/o running
anymore wires.
 
thomas said:
Here is the senario:

4 port wirelessr router in kitchen w/computer connected through one port,
my computer is upstairs w/wireless dongle.

I have a sound card, usb 2.0 card and an nvidia geforce 6200 video card in
the 3 pci slots and a SCSI controller w/NIC on the last pci slot. I traded
a d-link dwa-552 (15% to 30% signal strength) for a d-link dwa-160 (2% to
10% signal strength)

I am trying to figure out a way to get better signal strength w/o running
anymore wires.
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I misunderstood you about having more than one building. Things you can try:

1. Replace the downstairs router with an newer one with better range, one of
the 802.11N ones. Use a matching adapter on the computer upstairs. I have
heard that even without an adapter that does 802.11N you get better range,
but that is just hearsay.

2. Make sure the router downstairs is not in a closet and is as high up as
you can get it (like on top of a bookcase).

The idea of using a second router as an access point upstairs isn't going to
work for you because you don't have any ethernet up there. Frankly, if you
had ethernet running up there, you wouldn't need a second router!

Malke
 
The router is a d-link di-624 wich is wireless g and my dongle is a dwa-160
dual band wireless n that is backwards compatible.

I am just weighing my options before I do any thing. Right now I am using my
BB's CDMA connection. It is a little slow but better than dropped signals
etc...
 
Hi
Maybe this can Help.
Option 1. The second Wireless Router is connected to the first one via
cable.
Using a Wireless Router as a switch with an Access Point -
http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
Option 2. WDS. Second Router is on its own and connect to the first Router
via Wireless.
Buy a Pair of Wireless Routers that can do WDS (Zexel, SMC, Belkin have
models that do WDS as is out of the Box.
Linksys WRT54GL can do WDS when flashed with DD-WRT firmware.
Using a Laptop loaded with Netstumbler, do a Wireless survey in the house,
http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/
According to the Netstumbler's signal strength reading, identify spots that
have strong signal. and spot with weak, or No signal.
Evaluate how you can cover the space and start placing WDS units.
Additional Wireless Routers in WDS Mode (Wireless Network - Configuration
Modes. ) has to be placed in spots were the signal is good about Half way to
the dead spots.
How many WDS units are needed? It depends on your specific environment (that
is a good the reason to buying WDS units one at the time, try it, and decide
on the Next step).
Otherwise.
Extending Distance - http://www.ezlan.net/Distance.html
Wireless Modes - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html
Wireless Bridging - http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
Hi Gain Antenna - http://www.ezlan.net/antennae.html
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
 
thomas said:
The router is a d-link di-624 wich is wireless g and my dongle is a
dwa-160 dual band wireless n that is backwards compatible.

I am just weighing my options before I do any thing. Right now I am using
my BB's CDMA connection. It is a little slow but better than dropped
signals etc...
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Read Jack's answer. Look at all the links he provided you.

Malke
 
thomas said:
Is it possible to run more than one router on a dsl line?

eg. one router connected via a phone jack and another router connected to
a
different jack in another part of the building.
Click to expand...


Just to make one point very clear:

You cannot have 2 ADSL devices on one ADSL line.
Once one device has synced with the exchange, you cannot connect another
device.

You can cascade other ethernet and wireless devices off one ADSL router no
problem, as others have posted.

You can also have multiple IPs routed over one physical ADSL link.

But you cannot have more than 1 ADSL link per physical line.

So no, you can't plug another ADSL router or modem into another phone jack,
if it's on the same line as an existing ADSL modem / router.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. I went ahead and exchanged the dongle for a
card, had to remove my audio card but no big deal.
 
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