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I would like to upgrade to vista beta 2 but have heard that you cannot use
Msn Premium in Vista?! Is this going to be a permanent thing as i pay my
£6.99 a month, but what good will that be if I cannot get into Premium?

Also I have a lot saved in my MSN browser, favourites, links etc.... and
would like to keep all.... any advice and help would be GREATLY appreciated
 
kimberwhitehead said:
I would like to upgrade to vista beta 2 but have heard that you cannot use
Msn Premium in Vista?! Is this going to be a permanent thing as i pay my
£6.99 a month, but what good will that be if I cannot get into Premium?

Also I have a lot saved in my MSN browser, favourites, links etc.... and
would like to keep all.... any advice and help would be GREATLY
appreciated
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This is very probably *not* what you want to hear, but you asked for advice.

It sounds as if you are planning to replace a production OS on your every
day PC with a beta OS? I inferred that from your use of "upgrade".

If I am correct, the one word of advice is "don't".
Putting beta software of any kind on a production PC is risky, but
installing a beta OS that you *cannot uninstall and return to the production
OS* is increasing your probability of encountering irresolvable problems by
several orders of magnitude. If you look through the numerous tales of woe
posted here and in other Vista groups by people who "upgraded", you'll find
ample corroboration for this warning.

If you intend to proceed, make sure you back up all you data and be ready to
format your hard drive, reinstall your production OS and all your
applications if you run into trouble.
 
MSN9 Premium will install and will work but bad things will happen to things
like family member subaccounts, even on other computers. Other things go
wrong as well. MSN will release a Vista compatible version (MSN10?) by the
time Vista releases to manufacturing.

However this should not be a problem because you should not be using Vista
on a primary home computer anyway.
 
Colin said:
However this should not be a problem because you should not be
using Vista on a primary home computer anyway.
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On the other hand, when you've run it for a few weeks and nothing
drastic has gone wrong, and you're impressed with the look and feel
of the vista system, everyday things like news clients, browsers and
email tend to move to the new system!
 
Why? If you've got a perfectly well functioning primary computer whatever
you move to Vista is just more testing anyway. ;)
 
Beta is a much misused word. Windows always will be moving along a
continuum of development and improvement. RTM is just a milestone in its
progress.
 
Colin said:
Why? If you've got a perfectly well functioning primary computer whatever
you move to Vista is just more testing anyway. ;)
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I'm sure there's a version of Murphy's Law that applies here somewhere.
I had absolutely no problems with Vista at all until I decided to make
it my primary O/S. Then I lost my partition tables, lost networking, and
now every time I close down Firefox with the option of clearing out the
cache the machine decides to reboot and corrupts the cache instead.

It is officially beta and when that comes from Microsoft you can bet the
farm it means the software is unpredictable at best. Even when it is
officially released as a saleable product you might be well advised to
consider it beta until at least the first service pack.
 
Sorry to shout but sometimes you have to..

DO NOT INSTALL VISTA BETA ON ANY PRIMARY PRODUCTION MACHINE AS DATA LOSS AND
PROGRAM/HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY MAY BECOME AN ISSUE...ITS IS BETA...NOT A
FINISHED PRODUCT....
 
Colin said:
Beta is a much misused word. Windows always will be moving along
a continuum of development and improvement. RTM is just a
milestone in its progress.
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This is true - and in the web 2.0 world apps are in continual beta
anyway.
 
Bernie said:
And your point is...
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Ignorable. This news client I'm using claims to be beta38 but it's
as strong as an ox.

Of course there may be specifics in vista that would urge more
caution...
 
Ron said:
Sorry to shout but sometimes you have to..

DO NOT INSTALL VISTA BETA ON ANY PRIMARY PRODUCTION MACHINE AS DATA LOSS AND
PROGRAM/HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY MAY BECOME AN ISSUE...ITS IS BETA...NOT A
FINISHED PRODUCT....
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And your point is...
 
Interesting thread.

MSN Premium and/or its successor will definitely run on Windows Vista.
Unfortunately, we will have to wait a little longer before that becomes a
reality. In the mean time, web based features and access are available with
few exceptions. Personally, I use Outlook 2007 beta for e-mail access.

To provide a little continuity in my online experience while using Windows
Vista, I used the export feature in MSN for my favorites and e-mail
contacts. Once in Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, it is a matter of
exporting again to a file. Then importing from a file on the Vista
flipside. I also added a few additional favorites in IE7 of the MSN
features I use most like MSN Money, MSN Encarta Online, and MSN Calendar. I
set My MSN as my homepage.

Also, if you haven't already installed Windows Vista may I remind you of a
few obvious precautions and make a few recommendations to alleviate any
potential headaches?

1. Take inventory of your software and data. Along with your Windows XP
and installation Key or your system recovery discs and all your application
installation discs, tuck away a full backup of all your data not forgetting
any drivers or applications you might have downloaded.

2. If you are going to be using only one PC, make it a dual boot system
just in case your run into any compatibility issues. I used Partition Magic
to reduce my Windows partition and had Windows Vista install in the newly
allocated space and it took care of the whole dual boot thing.

3. Plan ahead. Eventually you will have to remove Windows Vista Beta.
NeoSmart's Easy BCD (for Windows Vista) is great. Not only does it make
customizing your dual boot features a snap, it makes the transition back to
only Windows XP really easy by restoring your XP boot sector with a click of
a button... then it is only a matter of rebooting your system and using your
partition software from within XP to reclaim the Vista partition.

For the alarmists I say yes, Windows Vista is a beta. As such, it should be
considered unreliable and potentially threatening to your data. We all
should be safe guarding our data regardless of what OS we're using. Am I
saying you would be justified running Windows Vista in a production
environment where reliability and productivity are mission critical? Of
course not. But to sound the alarm when someone confesses using it or
wanting to use it full time in a recreationally dominated environment like
the home is counter-productive. In order to properly test beta software,
you need to be using it. MSN would be an integral part of using it for
those who subscribe to it.

I hope this helped,

Dave
 
I tried setting it up again and it doesn't install as of today on 5472. The
installer can't register a dll. Maybe next build.
 
Yeah.

We're going to have to wait for an MSN client that is Vista compliant. The
whole Windows Live!/MSN thing is a bit confusing right now.

Dave
 
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