MSN, Microsoft and outlook express. invasion of my privacy

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John Greb

Microsoft and it's affiliates are invading my computer
with pop ups causing me to be unable to use my computer
at times. I get up to 35 pop ups durring any session on
the computer and of coulse they stop my use of the
computer till I delete them.
I paid good money for my Windows XP and at times am
unable to use it because of your invading my system with
your stupid pop ups. You should find a better way
toadvertise than to disable your customers computers that
they have paid for. If this continues I intend to seek
legal recourse.
JOHN GREB
 
S

Star Fleet Admiral Q

You can turn on your XP Firewall and it will stop these popups, unless of
course you have AOL, then you'll need to purchase a 3rd Party Firewall.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

It's not a matter of Microsoft "invading your privacy," it's a
matter of your inviting every malefactor and unscrupulous advertiser
on the Internet into your PC by not taking rudimentary security
precautions. As for seeking legal recourse, a trial lawyer can
generally be found to help you sue anyone for just about anything, but
I don't think you'll be able to sue yourself for failing to learn how
to securely use your own computer.

"There are at least three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions
vary accordingly. Which specific type(s) is troubling you?

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This particular "sales method" is strikingly similar to the
"protection" rackets offered to small businesses by organized
criminals. Yes, it's a scam; no reputable business would need to
resort to extortion. Particularly since they're trying to sell you a
type of protection that is already available to you free of charge.

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Disabling the messenger service, as
some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does nothing to
secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" these
messages and the problem they represent is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service is a "head in the sand" approach to computer security.

The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you've been
advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this helpful?

Equivalent Scenario 1: Somewhere in a house, a small fire starts,
and sets off the smoke alarm. You, not immediately seeing any
fire/smoke, complain about the noise of the smoke detector, and are
advised to remove the smoke detector's battery and go back to sleep.

Equivalent Scenario 2: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as some of your respondents,
replies, "Well, don't do that."

I'm beginning to think that the people deliberately posting such
bad advice are hacker-wannabes who have no true interest in helping
you secure your system, but would rather give you a false sense of
security while ensuring that your computer is still open to
exploitation.

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm or Pop-Up
Stopper from http://www.panicware.com/. Myself, I use Norton Internet
Security, which, in addition to containing Norton Anti-Virus and
Personal Firewall, also blocks many of the pop-up adds on the
Internet.

3) For pop-ups caused by some sort of "adware" and/or "spyware,"
such as Gator, Comet Cursors, or Bonzai Buddy, that you've
deliberately installed, two products that are quite effective at
finding and removing scumware are Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and
SpyBot Search and Destroy from http://security.kolla.de/. Both have
free evaluation versions.


Bruce Chambers

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having both at once. -- RAH
 
J

Jeremy

To bad Microsoft can't sue people for being morons and not learning how to
use a firewall with there high speed connections that they don't need. Or
because they were stupid and installed program while looking at porn.
 
M

Mike Mulligan

Relax, Jeremy. "John" is another example of the man who can't dance
complaining that the band doesn't know how to play.

Mike Mulligan
 

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