MSE and Defender

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Is my understanding correct that MSE is replacing Defender even though
Defender will be distributed with Win 7?
Is my assumption correct that MSE will become a regular topic here?
Does installation of MSE disable Defender or uninstall it?
Stuart
 
Is my understanding correct that MSE is replacing Defender even though

Defender will be distributed with Win 7?
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No but if you are running Microsoft Security Essentials, you do not need to
run Windows Defender. Microsoft Security Essentials is designed to disable
Windows Defender in order to manage the PC’s real-time protection, including
anti-virus, rootkits, Trojans and spyware.

Is my assumption correct that MSE will become a regular topic here?
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Those who say cannot know and those who know cannot say.


Does installation of MSE disable Defender or uninstall it?
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Currently Microsoft Security Essentials does not disable Windows Defender,
but it should and will in a later version of the beta.



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Currently Microsoft Security Essentials does not disable Windows Defender,
but it should and will in a later version of the beta.
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Actually, it usually already does disable it. When it fails to disable
it, that's a bug. ;-)
-steve
 
Ah ha!! Presumabley this is the point when it tells you, you may have had One
Care installed (which of course you never did), OR some other third party
software on your system which you don`t - other than WD. Am I suggesting WD
may be `third party`? Heavens forbid! It was once before MS got hold of GS.
So I`m left thinking the install fail is a generic tag meaning variously -
can`t compute? Bit more work needed here Bill G - time to whip your boys into
shape lest you should loose some credibility here! The workings of the MS
developer remain a mystery and just the way they like it. Mushroom
management/development? I would define that for the uninitiated but there are
ladies on here.

Stu
 
When installing MSE on my father's machine, I got an install failure on the
initial attempt.

I thought such failures only related to the presence of Forefront or OneCare
on the system, but in his case, it was Norton Online Anti-Virus (or
something with a very similar name...)

At any rate--once the remove operation on that previous A/V (which he
thought had never successfully installed) was completed, MSE went in just
fine.

So--follow the advice to remove other A/V apps before installing--or at
least turn off real-time protection temporarily.
 
Stuart said:
Is my understanding correct that MSE is replacing Defender even though
Defender will be distributed with Win 7?
Is my assumption correct that MSE will become a regular topic here?
Does installation of MSE disable Defender or uninstall it?
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MSE includes Defender. There would be no point in running both. When
you run MSE, you'll see the processes from "Microsoft Malware Protection
Engine" (MSMPENG) which is in Defender. Installing MSE will disable
Defender because Defender is in MSE.

Defender is not an anti-virus program. It covers spyware and adware.
They're adding anti-virus and malware components in MSE along with
revamping the UI. If they put their RAV product (that they bought in
2003 from GeCAD) into MSE, that AV product has fared poorly in AV
comparative testing and why OneCare was never a top contending AV
program (slowly inching up to nowadays only getting just past 90% while
Avira, Avast, and AVG have had far better coverage all along).

Unlike other [free] AV solutions that have their own scheduling for
signature and program updates, Windows Defender forced you to enable
Automatic Updates (automatically download and install) unless you were
willing to put up with the nuisance of getting prompted (notify only)
and then manually downloading and installing the updates. I suspect
Microsoft will follow suite in MSE to get updates to it. According to
PC Mag's review, MSE sets the Automatic Updates service into automatic
mode.

Since Microsoft is planning to release MSE in a few weeks (close to the
release of Windows 7), I wouldn't be surprised that they try to push it
hard through Windows Update as they did with Internet Explorer 8.
 
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