MS recorder time limitation

[Guest]

Hi,
I am looking to remove the time limitation (of 60 secs) on the MS
recorder. (start-programs-accessories-entertainment-recorder)
Please can anyone advise me on how to remove it please?
That is, I'm not looking for a 1 minute work-around - rather
a genuine fix. (removal of the time limit)
I contacted MS - who politely told me to clear off - as all my
genuinely purchased software, 98, XP, Office, + etc. (retail boxed)
just does not count - because my operating system, bought
with the computer, reads OEM. (how to treat a customer.)
If anyone can help - Many thanks.
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Poprivet]

Hi,
I am looking to remove the time limitation (of 60 secs) on the MS
recorder. (start-programs-accessories-entertainment-recorder)
Please can anyone advise me on how to remove it please?
That is, I'm not looking for a 1 minute work-around - rather
a genuine fix. (removal of the time limit)
I contacted MS - who politely told me to clear off - as all my
genuinely purchased software, 98, XP, Office, + etc. (retail boxed)
just does not count - because my operating system, bought
with the computer, reads OEM. (how to treat a customer.)
If anyone can help - Many thanks.
(e-mail address removed)

Search for and download the free audacity audio recorder and editor.
Here's a download link:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

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[Guest]

Thanks for the link, but I want to fix the recorder.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I am looking to remove the time limitation (of 60 secs) on the MS
recorder. (start-programs-accessories-entertainment-recorder)
Please can anyone advise me on how to remove it please?
That is, I'm not looking for a 1 minute work-around - rather
a genuine fix. (removal of the time limit)
I contacted MS - who politely told me to clear off - as all my
genuinely purchased software, 98, XP, Office, + etc. (retail
boxed) just does not count - because my operating system, bought
with the computer, reads OEM. (how to treat a customer.)
If anyone can help - Many thanks.

Search for and download the free audacity audio recorder and
editor. Here's a download link:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

Thanks for the link, but I want to fix the recorder.

Fix? It is not broken.
You want more features - you get a product meant to give you more features.
;-)

You could have done a little research on your own:
http://www.google.com/search?q=sound+recorder+60+seconds

And found out there are 'work-arounds' - but that sound recorder was never
meant to do more than what it does. It has been 60 seconds since way back
when (at least Windows 95 if I remember correctly.)

You are not trying to 'fix' - you are trying to 'hack' - and if there are
free products out there that do what you want, more than what you'll need
and do it for free - you would be better off (and wiser) to choose that
option than to try and 'hack' something into doing something it was never
intended to do.

 

[Guest]

I have to disagree with you Shenan.
Having paid good money for XP pro I think, as part of the product,
it is reasonable to expect a fully working recorder, and not one "crippled"
by MS to a limit of 60 secs. for whatever reason.
The fact that other apps. are available, even for free, or the fact that
it has been 60 secs. from way back ('95) is immaterial to this purchase.

Further, having spent several hundreds, and probably thousands of pounds, on
MS software, again I think it was reasonable to request a helpful reply from
MS.

MS refused helping me because my system reads "OEM" and referred me to the
supplier, who naturally has no capability to advise me on MS software in
detail.

As an example: If you purchased a car and found it would only travel 5 miles
a day, would you query it with the makers? (if the garage could not mend it.)

Finally, I asked MS (specifically) so as to not "hack" their software;
by MS providing their solution it is not hacking, they would be repairing an
unnecessarily crippled app. that could / should have been remedied years ago.

I am sorry but I find your reply unhelp, unwarrented, and misleading.
Simply, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

fastfreeads.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I have to disagree with you Shenan.
Having paid good money for XP pro I think, as part of the product,
it is reasonable to expect a fully working recorder, and not one
"crippled" by MS to a limit of 60 secs. for whatever reason.
The fact that other apps. are available, even for free, or the fact
that
it has been 60 secs. from way back ('95) is immaterial to this
purchase.

Further, having spent several hundreds, and probably thousands of
pounds, on MS software, again I think it was reasonable to request
a helpful reply from MS.

MS refused helping me because my system reads "OEM" and referred me
to the supplier, who naturally has no capability to advise me on MS
software in detail.

As an example: If you purchased a car and found it would only
travel 5 miles a day, would you query it with the makers? (if the
garage could not mend it.)

Finally, I asked MS (specifically) so as to not "hack" their
software;
by MS providing their solution it is not hacking, they would be
repairing an unnecessarily crippled app. that could / should have
been remedied years ago.

I am sorry but I find your reply unhelp, unwarrented, and
misleading. Simply, if you are not part of the solution, you are
part of the problem.

IMHO...
You are stubborn, unreasonable and rambling.
You are not part of the problem - you are the problem.

You expect something that wasn't designed to do something to do exactly what
it was not designed to to.

When you purchased the car - if the deal was you would only drive 5 miles a
day - then you would have no recourse. Same thing here. The built in sound
recorder was never meant to do more than it does nor presented to. Just
because it came with the OS doesn't mean it has to be full featured.

Do you use notepad, wordpad, Word (or WordPerfect, OpenOffice, etc) to type
up official documents?
Why? Is it because notepad and wordpad do not have the features you needed
so you purchased/got something that did?

Do you use Outlook Express exclusively to get your email or do you use other
more full-featured applications?

Have you tried alternatives to Internet Explorer? Why?

Do you use some other application to burn CDs? How about DVDs (don't have
much choice with the latter, eh?)

My point is still the same... You are expecting a product to do something
it was not designed to do. Let's use your car example and expand in the way
it SHOULD have been expanded. You purchase a car that gets 35MPG
(miraculously - no matter what/how you drive - exactly - all the time) and
it has a 10 gallon tank (no matter what - it only hold 10 gallons of gas).
That means you can travel 350 miles. Can you now go back and complain that
you 'paid a lot of money' and 'was a good customer' and get more out of it?
No. That would be stupid.

You got what you paid for. The limitation was always there and ignorance of
that fact is your fault, your bad, your problem. If you want more - go out
and get a product for free or pay for it that does what you desire.

 

[Guest]

In reply and in order:
1. The MS recorder does what it was designed to do, but
has been severely limited by modification. (detrimentally.)
2. If the car would only do 5 miles a day, like the recorder,
many persons would also request (insist) on an improvement.
3. We are not discussing "other" apps. or purchases.
4. No, I have not tried alternatives to IE (see 3.)
5. A car purchased knowingly to do 35mpg could be accepted.
and, inprovements are made to mpg all the time; the
recorder is not improved or increased from 60 sec..
6. I paid for an OS, including a recorder, not one limited to 60 sec.
This fact (limitation) was not made known to me at the purchase.
7. I think MS are at fault: providing a "limited time" recorder,
and MS should provide a remedy (patch) to correct it.
I think MS are at fault: in refusing reasonable help with their product.

Many seek a remedy to this 60 sec. problem, not a personal diatribe.
Please consider this conversation closed.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

In reply and in order:
1. The MS recorder does what it was designed to do, but
has been severely limited by modification. (detrimentally.)

A limitation that has always existed and never was it presented to do more
than that. Again - ignorance of this is not an excuse.

2. If the car would only do 5 miles a day, like the recorder,
many persons would also request (insist) on an improvement.

Yes - but you walked in and got the car knowing that and if you
requested/insisted on an improvement - well - you shouldn't have signed up
for the originally crappy deal - right?

3. We are not discussing "other" apps. or purchases.

You aren't - because you believe you should get somehting you were never
entitled to or promised.

4. No, I have not tried alternatives to IE (see 3.)

What abot Office?
Email clients?

5. A car purchased knowingly to do 35mpg could be accepted.
and, inprovements are made to mpg all the time; the
recorder is not improved or increased from 60 sec..

Yes - but in order to get improved gas milage - you do what?
Replace the car with another or replace some component (major) in the
vehicle.

You are in that situation now.

Think about Disk Defragmenter in Windows XP. You do know it is a crippled
version of a full retail product -right?

6. I paid for an OS, including a recorder, not one limited to 60
sec. This fact (limitation) was not made known to me at the
purchase.

No - you paid for an OS that came with a recorder that was limited to 60
seconds. It CAME that way - always had - just because you were ignorant to
that fact when you bought it is YOUR bad - not anyone elses. It's called
research. You got what you paid for. Just like everyone else. You want
something better - go out and get it.

7. I think MS are at fault: providing a "limited time" recorder,
and MS should provide a remedy (patch) to correct it.
I think MS are at fault: in refusing reasonable help with their
product.

Why are they 'at fault'. They never presented the built in recorder as
something that WOULD record past 60 seconds and that limitation (by virtue
of a Google search) is a well known (albeit annoying) fact. If you had
researched this before you purchased Windows XP - would you have NOT
purchased Windows XP?

Many seek a remedy to this 60 sec. problem, not a personal diatribe.
Please consider this conversation closed.

You can consider it how you like. I can consider it how I like.

 

[Poprivet]

Thanks for the link, but I want to fix the recorder.

The recorder isn't broken. You should have said that in th efirst place.

 

[Poprivet]

I have to disagree with you Shenan.

You are wrong.

Having paid good money for XP pro I think, as part of the product,
it is reasonable to expect a fully working recorder, and not one
"crippled" by MS to a limit of 60 secs. for whatever reason.
The fact that other apps. are available, even for free, or the fact
that
it has been 60 secs. from way back ('95) is immaterial to this
purchase.

Wong. What you bought is what you got.

Further, having spent several hundreds, and probably thousands of
pounds, on MS software, again I think it was reasonable to request a
helpful reply from MS.

Then do so and don't cry about it here.

MS refused helping me because my system reads "OEM" and referred me
to the supplier, who naturally has no capability to advise me on MS
software in detail.

That's right. MS has no responsibility to support OEM providers customers.

As an example: If you purchased a car and found it would only travel
5 miles a day, would you query it with the makers? (if the garage
could not mend it.)

Not if it had been that way since 1995 and had been designed that way.

Finally, I asked MS (specifically) so as to not "hack" their software;
by MS providing their solution it is not hacking, they would be
repairing an unnecessarily crippled app. that could / should have
been remedied years ago.

then go ask MS. Quit crying on the usenet groups.

I am sorry but I find your reply unhelp, unwarrented, and misleading.
Simply, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the
problem.

That's your problem. He gave you excellent advice and a good solution and
even included reasoning that was accurate.

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