Mozilla 1.6 vs. Firebird 0.7

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To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
 
Randy Bard said:
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
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Why not include K-Meleon 0.82? (Mozilla based).

George
 
Randy said:
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
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Deleted Firebird off my system and I'm sticking with Mozilla 1.6 (I
won't go back to firebird and/or Thunderbird)
In my opinion, Mozilla 1.6 is the best that's out there.
 
Randy said:
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
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Firebird is leaner, faster and more customizable, and will be replacing the
Mozilla browser in the future.
 
TKO said:
Deleted Firebird off my system and I'm sticking with Mozilla 1.6 (I
won't go back to firebird and/or Thunderbird)
In my opinion, Mozilla 1.6 is the best that's out there.
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Seconded absolutely.1.6 is great.
 
Firebird is leaner, faster and more customizable, and will be replacing the
Mozilla browser in the future.
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"In the future" is the operative phrase. I am a big fan of firebird,
but until some issues are sorted out Mozilla 1.6 is the way to go if
you want stability. I play with FireBird, but I work with Mozilla.
That will change.
 
Randy said:
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
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I have been using Mozilla 1.5b for a while. I gave 1.6 a try and
promptly went back to 1.5b but I can't remember why now. :( Something
didn't work in it. Can't remember what :(
 
I have been using Mozilla 1.5b for a while. I gave 1.6 a try and
promptly went back to 1.5b but I can't remember why now. :( Something
didn't work in it. Can't remember what :(
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It was the "recollection" virus protection.
 
Deleted Firebird off my system and I'm sticking with Mozilla 1.6 (I
won't go back to firebird and/or Thunderbird)
In my opinion, Mozilla 1.6 is the best that's out there.
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but why???

not trying to be rude or anything, but you haven't told us anything of
value (sorry, this is a pet hate of mine)

Opinions are all well and good (we've all got them...) but in this case
they aren't adding anything to the discussion...

S
 
Simon said:
01.rogers.nf.net:




but why???

not trying to be rude or anything, but you haven't told us anything of
value (sorry, this is a pet hate of mine)

Opinions are all well and good (we've all got them...) but in this case
they aren't adding anything to the discussion...

S
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Well for starters I'll point out to you that the original post never
asked why, just for an opinion. So not to be rude or anything, but in
this case, shove your pet hate where the sun don't shine!

Now, if you're still interested in the why, here it is.
I like Mozilla 1.6 (and all previous) because of the "suite" factor. It
has more without giving away anything. It is every bit as fast and twice
as reliable as Firebird. It has composer, mail/news, calendar, IRC, etc
etc which Firebird doesn't.
On another note, when I tried Firebird and Thunderbird, I ended up
losing all my favorites in Firebird (weeks after installing), and emails
etc in T-Bird. Meaning I opened up firebird one day and they were all
gone. Nothing I did I know for a fact.
It froze/crashed often where as Mozilla has NEVER let me down.

Anyway, as noted above the original poster never asked for why's so
that's all you're getting. I must also note, it appears to me that
Mozilla 1.6 is getting more support than Firechicken, not that it
matters to me because like I said, I am sticking with Mozilla for all
eternity.
 
Mozilla 1.6 better have improved a LOT over 1.5 to come anywhere near
Firebird 0.7 as a browser. I uninstalled 1.5 after one day - it gave me
nothing but headaches.

I have never understood the thinking that requires a browser to do news and
mail. I have never used one that did all three of them well. A browser
should be a browser, because there are better programs to do mail and news.
That's the direction that Mozilla is headed with Firebird, and it's the
right one.
 
Simon wrote: [snip]
Well for starters I'll point out to you that the original post never
asked why, just for an opinion. So not to be rude or anything, but in
this case, shove your pet hate where the sun don't shine!

Now, if you're still interested in the why, here it is.
I like Mozilla 1.6 (and all previous) because of the "suite" factor. It
has more without giving away anything. It is every bit as fast and twice
as reliable as Firebird. It has composer, mail/news, calendar, IRC, etc
etc which Firebird doesn't.
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This is a major incorrect statement You really need to go look at all the
extensions availible for Firebird.
On another note, when I tried Firebird and Thunderbird, I ended up
losing all my favorites in Firebird (weeks after installing), and emails
etc in T-Bird. Meaning I opened up firebird one day and they were all
gone. Nothing I did I know for a fact.
It froze/crashed often where as Mozilla has NEVER let me down.
Click to expand...

I have had Firebird installed on my system since 050. I have never lost any
bookmarks. Do you total defrag every week?
Anyway, as noted above the original poster never asked for why's so
that's all you're getting. I must also note, it appears to me that
Mozilla 1.6 is getting more support than Firechicken, not that it
matters to me because like I said, I am sticking with Mozilla for all
eternity.
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I am happy you and others like Mozilla over Firebird. The official site
has made it quite clear that in due time Mozilla will be dropped for
Firebird and Thunderbird. I would suggest you and the others get ready for
this inevitable mandatory change. Yes, you could keep on using Mozilla
long after the official site drops all support. You could even download
the source code while you can and do the bug fixing your self if you know
how. You will not be able to keep downloading current Mozilla suites for
all eternity unless someone takes over from the official site.
 
Now, if you're still interested in the why, here it is.
I like Mozilla 1.6 (and all previous) because of the "suite"
factor. It has more without giving away anything. It is every
bit as fast and twice as reliable as Firebird. It has composer,
mail/news, calendar, IRC, etc etc which Firebird doesn't.
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That's a quite weird argument. Of course Firebird doesn't include
mail/news, the reason of existence of the *birds is to split up all
of the "suite" functionality to separate programs. So, FireBird +
Thunderbird + Sunbird (=Calendar) + extensions = Mozilla.
On another note, when I tried Firebird and Thunderbird, I ended
up losing all my favorites in Firebird (weeks after installing),
and emails etc in T-Bird. Meaning I opened up firebird one day
and they were all gone. Nothing I did I know for a fact.
It froze/crashed often where as Mozilla has NEVER let me down.
Click to expand...

Did you check BugZilla to see if this is a known behavior/bug? It
might provide an explanation of things, or how to restore them. If
not, you could file a bug report and help the Mozilla team improve
their software.
Anyway, as noted above the original poster never asked for why's
so that's all you're getting. I must also note, it appears to me
that Mozilla 1.6 is getting more support than Firechicken, not
that it matters to me because like I said, I am sticking with
Mozilla for all eternity.
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The original plans of the Mozilla team were to eventually dump the
suite completely, and switch to the Firebird-Thunderbird system.
Lucky for you, the Mozilla team decided a few days ago to keep
supporting the Mozilla suite, mostly because some corporations are
using it as a base platform.
However, they will _not_ add new features to the suite anymore. New
features will be developed for Firebird/Thunderbird, the suite only
gets bugfixes and improvements in existing features. So I guess you
might want to come back to your decision later on...

More info on the Mozilla roadmap:
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html

Kind regards,
Wald
 
Wald said:
The original plans of the Mozilla team were to eventually dump the
suite completely, and switch to the Firebird-Thunderbird system.
Lucky for you, the Mozilla team decided a few days ago to keep
supporting the Mozilla suite, mostly because some corporations are
using it as a base platform.
However, they will _not_ add new features to the suite anymore. New
features will be developed for Firebird/Thunderbird, the suite only
gets bugfixes and improvements in existing features. So I guess you
might want to come back to your decision later on...

More info on the Mozilla roadmap:
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
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On that page, I'm seeing this calendar:

| Moz 1.7 April 2004
| Moz 1.8 July 2004

Also, looking at the calendar for Firebird.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/roadmap.html

| FB 0.8 Dec 2003
| FB 0.9 March 2004

Version .8 should be due any time? Quoting from the FB main page:

| 0.8 (ETA: December/January)
| Windows Installer, [...]

(What does that mean, "Windows Installer"? That is often the product name
used for the MSI horror. I hope that's not what they're talking about.)

My main question, for Firebird release dates. Any educated guesses when there
will come one based on Moz 1.6 ?
 
omega said:
On that page, I'm seeing this calendar:

| Moz 1.7 April 2004
| Moz 1.8 July 2004
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Yes, but these releases won't be much different feature-wise from
the current 1.6, as far as I understand it.
My main question, for Firebird release dates. Any educated
guesses when there will come one based on Moz 1.6 ?
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AFAIK, the 0.8 release can happen any moment. Lately I've seen
Mozilla developers evolving from a strict release schedule to a
more relaxed attitude: "it will be released when it's finished".
All in all, this is a good thing, they do not want to push a
release if they're not 100% sure that it's good.

So: just be patient, it won't be long...
 
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Firebird 0.7: In your opinion, has 1.6 improved sufficiently over 1.5
to warrant giving it a try, or is Firebird still the superior
programme?
Click to expand...

Superior for what? As the other replies indicate, Mozilla is a suite of
applications, while Firebird is strictly a browser only.

In terms of browser comparison only, I don't find the 2 that different
(though there are some of course).




Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
To those who have tried the new Mozilla 1.6 as well as Mozilla
Superior for what? As the other replies indicate, Mozilla is a suite of
applications, while Firebird is strictly a browser only.

In terms of browser comparison only, I don't find the 2 that different
(though there are some of course)
Click to expand...

I was using Mozilla 1.5 and upgraded to 1.6. It is definitely less
stable on my machine than 1.5 was. Otherwise, I don't notice any
difference at all. Mozilla 1.6 tends to crash more in Mail and
News than 1.5 did.
 
Al Smith wrote:

I was using Mozilla 1.5 and upgraded to 1.6. It is definitely less
stable on my machine than 1.5 was. Otherwise, I don't notice any
difference at all. Mozilla 1.6 tends to crash more in Mail and News than
1.5 did.
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What operating system are you using?
I'm running Windows XP Home, and have never had a problem with 1.5, 1.5a
or 1.6
 
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