Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

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W. Watson

Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I
summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had
set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm
now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a
recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step 2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up
137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm about
to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this procedure
if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
 
In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the version
/ sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large disks.
You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size, if
you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large disks,
without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt
support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using a
version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third party
tool to expand and utilse your free space.


W. Watson said:
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here,
I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K
had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full
size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If
not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the
HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision
post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I
had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted
to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the
install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this
all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system.
I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an
install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)
the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in
BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K
machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step
2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the
registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up
137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm
about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this
procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
Click to expand...
 
DL said:
In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the version
/ sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large disks.
Click to expand...
Doesn't XP "automatically" support large HDs? I have a 300G on my XP desktop
system in the house.
You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size, if
you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large disks,
Click to expand...
I didn't know some version of W2K with special SP supports large HDs.
without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt
support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using a
version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third party
tool to expand and utilse your free space.


W. Watson said:
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here,
I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K
had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full
size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If
not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the
HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision
post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I
had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted
to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the
install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this
all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system.
I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an
install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)
the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in
BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K
machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step
2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the
registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up
137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm
about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this
procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I missed your comments on first read, as they are 'hidden' within my
response

Only the required sp level of winxp supports large disks as does win2k
win2k sp3
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305098
WinXp sp1
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013&Product=winxp

If you are upgrading a win2k system the free space can only be utilised by
either expanding the partition with a third party tool or creating a
partition in the free space

W. Watson said:
In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the
version / sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large
disks.
Click to expand...
Doesn't XP "automatically" support large HDs? I have a 300G on my XP
desktop system in the house.
You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size,
if you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large
disks,
Click to expand...
I didn't know some version of W2K with special SP supports large HDs.
without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt
support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using
a version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third
party tool to expand and utilse your free space.


W. Watson said:
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help
here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD
size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to
it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this
for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full
capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision
post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can
W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I
had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I
wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the
install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?
legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet
I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this
all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take
care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous
system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an
install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the
contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over
the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.
That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)
the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of
IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in
BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See
next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new
install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K
machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in
step 2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the
registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took
up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm
about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this
procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I
summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had
set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm
now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a
recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================
Click to expand...

On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two
physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two
partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger
capacity.
What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
Click to expand...

Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can
think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to
see past 137GB on large disk drives.
 
The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I
took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.
Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor
difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to
show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the
event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in this
thread.

So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question shortly
after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall the
install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It was not
clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the necessary
instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little more detail,
but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become pretty obvious
once one actually carries out the steps.

It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP upgrade
install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K machine.
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I
summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had
set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm
now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a
recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================
Click to expand...

On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two
physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two
partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger
capacity.
What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
Click to expand...

Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can
think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to
see past 137GB on large disk drives.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step 2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up
137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm about
to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this procedure
if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
As an aside, unless you have a specific reason for keeping the sata drive as
Fat32 you ought to convert to NTFS, its more secure, more efficient & you
wont have large file copy problems

W. Watson said:
The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I
took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.
Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor
difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to
show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the
event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in
this thread.

So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question
shortly after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall
the install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It
was not clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the
necessary instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little
more detail, but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become
pretty obvious once one actually carries out the steps.

It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP
upgrade install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K
machine.
Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help
here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD
size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to
it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this
for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full
capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision
post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can
W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I
had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I
wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the
install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?
legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================
Click to expand...

On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two
physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two
partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger
capacity.
What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet
I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this
all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take
care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous
system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an
install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the
contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over
the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.
That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)
the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of
IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
Click to expand...

Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can
think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to
see past 137GB on large disk drives.
6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in
BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See
next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new
install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K
machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in
step 2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the
registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took
up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm
about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this
procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
It is NTFS, which raises another point. I used PM 8.0 to increase the size.
It took about 1 second, and showed the new enlarged partition as NTFS. Why
no grind it out period to format the rest of the partition as NTFS?
As an aside, unless you have a specific reason for keeping the sata drive as
Fat32 you ought to convert to NTFS, its more secure, more efficient & you
wont have large file copy problems

W. Watson said:
The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I
took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.
Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor
difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to
show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the
event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in
this thread.

So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question
shortly after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall
the install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It
was not clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the
necessary instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little
more detail, but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become
pretty obvious once one actually carries out the steps.

It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP
upgrade install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K
machine.
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:38 GMT, "W. Watson"

Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern
motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help
here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD
size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to
it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this
for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full
capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================
Rev. Aug. 18, 2007
I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision
post.

[Start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can
W2K
Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS
motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is
"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I
had
some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I
wanted to
partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the
install:

==============================
76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi
C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free
D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?
legibly)
Unpartitioned space 131069MB
===============================
On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two
physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two
partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger
capacity.

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet
I
had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS
tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this
all
about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take
care
of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous
system. I
had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an
install
would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the
contents
of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it
contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over
the
years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has
changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.
Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.
That
will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)
the
80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of
IDE/SATA
issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make
adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC
2. Place their driver CD in the drive
3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a
prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.
(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot
from a CD before trying a HD or other device.
4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt
5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy
6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8
files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD
2. Press the boot button when asked
3. Hit F6 soon
4. A prompt for the floppy appears.
5. Put the floppy in and continue
6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.
Select one, then loop around to select the second.
Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can
think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to
see past 137GB on large disk drives.

6. Press F8 to continue the install
7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure
you don't fumble the ball like I did.
8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in
BIOS
too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See
next
paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I
haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new
install
before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003
<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003
Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,
Service Pack 4 -- Download the update
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security
updates rolled into one convenient package)
Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next
page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K
machine
to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in
step 2.
Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,
E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>
Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the
registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took
up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm
about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this
procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the
drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...
==============End===============
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