moviemaker or primiere?

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For the price moviemaker is great - and it has been very easy to use
What little I have done with Premiere, it doesn't seem as easy to use, and
may actually be an overkill for what I will probably ever do. Here is where
I need some feedback.

For the near term I want to make simple titles and plain fades for
transitions and use audio "as is."

However, I will eventually want to A-B roll two large sources (a two camera
shoot) into one final product.
here are my questions:

1) what is my approach with this software to make this work smoothly?
Do I need to berak the two sources into smaller segs based on time code?

2) which product maks this easier?

3) how do I strip audio from a tape and discard the video? which product
facilitates this?

4) which product allows me to color correct segs?

5) which format is best to capture in? AVI is huge BUT I see no difference
on my computer between Peimiere AVI and Moviemaker - but there must be a
difference or Premiere would offer something smaller I'm sure

6) which product offers the most productive workflow once you gotten past
the learning curve?
 
Hi

I use both (mostly Premiere) so will add my 2p worth below, FWIW!

Hope it helps.

Jake


dajaxon said:
For the price moviemaker is great - and it has been very easy to use
What little I have done with Premiere, it doesn't seem as easy to use, and
may actually be an overkill for what I will probably ever do. Here is where
I need some feedback.

For the near term I want to make simple titles and plain fades for
transitions and use audio "as is."
Click to expand...

(Jake): MM2
However, I will eventually want to A-B roll two large sources (a two camera
shoot) into one final product.
here are my questions:
Click to expand...

(Jake): Permiere 6.5 (Premiere Pro doesn't have A-B roll workspace, only
single track, like MM2).
1) what is my approach with this software to make this work smoothly?
Do I need to berak the two sources into smaller segs based on time code?
Click to expand...

(Jake): I don't have any experience of two camera work but have wondered how
you sync the two without resorting to audio/visual cues from a clapperboard
(obviously high-end kit will accept an external timecode source).
2) which product maks this easier?
Click to expand...

(Jake): MM2 will automaticlly create clips based on timecode (fixed interval
or start/stop points). Premiere won't. But with Premiere you can create
batch in/out points and export them to an Edit Decision List which you can
then import and apply to the roll from your second camera - but this will
only work if your timecode is perfectly synced (I guess)! I've never used
it, but I think Premiere will allow you to zero the timecode at a specific
point, so time to get that clapperboard out...
3) how do I strip audio from a tape and discard the video? which product
facilitates this?
Click to expand...

(Jake): Either package will allow you to do this.
4) which product allows me to color correct segs?
Click to expand...

(Jake): Premiere. Premiere Pro has a powerful set of colour correction
tools, but lacks A-B roll workspace as I mentioned above.
5) which format is best to capture in? AVI is huge BUT I see no difference
on my computer between Peimiere AVI and Moviemaker - but there must be a
difference or Premiere would offer something smaller I'm sure
Click to expand...

(Jake): AVI will appear the same on both, but Premiere allows you to capture
at lower resolutions so you save disk space. You can then edit the low-res
version. The final cut will be made using the high resolution originals.
6) which product offers the most productive workflow once you gotten past
the learning curve?
Click to expand...

(Jake): That depends entirely on what you want to achieve. For simple
timeline, title and audio overlay work then MM2 is great, but for anything
more complex you're going to want to use Premiere.
 
And I, like Jake, use both.... Movie Maker 2 does about 99% of what I need,
and other software including Premiere does the rest.

The quality of the full DV-AVI from MM2 and Premiere is the same as they use
the same codec on my computers.

I find that aligning clips from two cameras can easily be done by using the
visual patterns in the audio tracks of each.... but, when aligning realize
that MM2 is a 15 fps editing environment whereas Premiere can be 30 fps, so
there may be a difference of one frame. MM1 is a 30 fps environment.


PapaJohn
 
I was assuming all capture and editing was 30 fps - you say MM2 is 15? Isn't
that an odd selection?
Is there any reason for this or is it because most of what you may do is for
the internet anyway?
 
The 15 fps is just for the editing environment... your final saved movie
will have whatever is in the profile you pick, usually 30 fps for me.

By working at 15 fps and 320x240 during preview, it can keep up much better
with the flow of data needed to give you a good feel for your project....
avoiding the need to pre-render or render segments prior to preview.... like
Premiere 6 needs to do.

So you get project working speed but tradeoff quality of viewing, but only
during the preview. It's a good tradeoff.

PapaJohn
 
Can I import video from my computer? How do I do it? Location websites. I've transfered the homepage to Documents and to my Favorites. How do I transfer them to Movie maker?
 
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