Motherboard upgrade

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Hi,
I have to do a motherboard and processor upgrade for someone, the
machine is a 2.4g pentium based one at the moment running xp. I'm
putting in an athlon 3200 and abit mbo, will I get away without
reinstalling xp when the machine boots up ? Will it detect the new
hardware and load the required drivers. I really don't want to get into
a new install of xp if I can help it.
thanks for any replies.
 
Simon said:
Hi,
I have to do a motherboard and processor upgrade for someone, the
machine is a 2.4g pentium based one at the moment running xp. I'm
putting in an athlon 3200 and abit mbo, will I get away without
reinstalling xp when the machine boots up ?

No, but you may be able to get away with doing a repair install. This is
not the repair console: go through like you're going to do a clean
install and it'll prompt you when it finds the other
installation...before partitioning/formatting.
Will it detect the new
hardware and load the required drivers.

It probably won't even boot. Boot from the cdrom and do the repair
install. Oh, and back up all the data first.
I really don't want to get into
a new install of xp if I can help it.
thanks for any replies.


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Simon said:
Hi,
I have to do a motherboard and processor upgrade for someone, the
machine is a 2.4g pentium based one at the moment running xp. I'm
putting in an athlon 3200 and abit mbo, will I get away without
reinstalling xp when the machine boots up ?

possibly, but i would never suggest it. there is no better time to make
a new install of windows than on majot hardware changes.
Will it detect the new
hardware and load the required drivers.

ive seen it doing so on a athlon 800Mhz when it was installed on a k6-2
233mhz before (i did it for curiosity). its possible in theory, but i
think the resulting system is more likely not very stable (i dumped it
right afterwards ive seen that it booted)

my suggestion:
it will save you time making a fresh install and gives you/your friend
the joy of a fast, clean, stable windows.

just take care for any important data before and put them on another
drive/partition.
 
adsci said:
ive seen it doing so on a athlon 800Mhz when it was installed on a k6-2
233mhz before (i did it for curiosity). its possible in theory, but i
think the resulting system is more likely not very stable (i dumped it
right afterwards ive seen that it booted)

note: this was win98. but i think winxp can do that too.
 
spodosaurus said:
No, but you may be able to get away with doing a repair install. This is
not the repair console: go through like you're going to do a clean install
and it'll prompt you when it finds the other installation...before
partitioning/formatting.


It probably won't even boot. Boot from the cdrom and do the repair
install. Oh, and back up all the data first.
I'd like to add that when I did my (unscheduled) MB replacement and repair
install of XP I was left with a number of phantom devices and redundant
drivers that caused a number of weird, nuicance issues for months before I
finnally gave up and clean installed XP. I would suggest removing all of the
PCI devices (first from the OS, then from the box) that you can, and roll
the video driver back to standard VGA and remove it's drivers before you
replace the mainboard. I don't think you need to touch the drives, they play
nice with the changeover. Then replace the board, then repair install XP,
then reinstall the devices. That may avoid 90% of the issues. I've never
done it, but it seems to me that it might help. Maybe others will comment on
this.
 
spodosaurus said:
No, but you may be able to get away with doing a repair install. This is
not the repair console: go through like you're going to do a clean install
and it'll prompt you when it finds the other installation...before
partitioning/formatting.


It probably won't even boot. Boot from the cdrom and do the repair
install. Oh, and back up all the data first.



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spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

I would normally say do a clean install, but last week I swapped out an Asus
a7n8x (nvidia chipset) for an Asus a8v Deluxe. All we ended up doing was
replacing the drivers.

SteveH
 
SteveH said:
I would normally say do a clean install, but last week I swapped out an Asus
a7n8x (nvidia chipset) for an Asus a8v Deluxe. All we ended up doing was
replacing the drivers.

SteveH
Thanks all, thought the repair option might be worth a go, good idea on
the removal of all the other bits first though, and I'll take a backup
of the drives before I start. Bit of a nightmare this will be and the
margin on this job hardly made it worthwhile, but hey ho a satisfied
customer is always nice.
cheers simon
 
BP said:
I'd like to add that when I did my (unscheduled) MB replacement and repair
install of XP I was left with a number of phantom devices and redundant
drivers that caused a number of weird, nuicance issues for months before I
finnally gave up and clean installed XP. I would suggest removing all of
the PCI devices (first from the OS, then from the box) that you can, and
roll the video driver back to standard VGA and remove it's drivers before
you replace the mainboard. I don't think you need to touch the drives,
they play nice with the changeover. Then replace the board, then repair
install XP, then reinstall the devices. That may avoid 90% of the issues.
I've never done it, but it seems to me that it might help. Maybe others
will comment on this.

The way I generally do it is to remove all HDD controllers, lan, sound and
any other devices that may cause a problem in Device Manager then just shut
down and install the new board before the repair install. Basically, I
remove any devices that are "on-board" the old MB including chipset. So you
don't really have to 'physically' remove items, just remove them from the
Device Manager without restarting until the repair install. Works for me.
Don't forget to 'f6' for raid/sata drivers.

Ed
 
Hi,
I have to do a motherboard and processor upgrade for someone, the
machine is a 2.4g pentium based one at the moment running xp. I'm
putting in an athlon 3200 and abit mbo, will I get away without
reinstalling xp when the machine boots up ? Will it detect the new
hardware and load the required drivers. I really don't want to get into
a new install of xp if I can help it.
thanks for any replies.

It's a completely hit and miss affair. Sometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't. IME there's been no hard and fast rule.
 
Whenever you install a new motherboard in a computer that had Windows loaded
on the harddrive, then after you install the new motherboard you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of Windows. Otherwise you can
look forward to Registry errors and data corruption on-going.
 
My circumstance does not count because my old board was a dual processor,
but, I upgraded to an athlon, a8v board and turned it on, it started to boot
to win 2k, and at the part where it switches into a graphics mode and
displays the win 2k logo, it blue screened. I did not expect it to boot but
it was fun to watch.

-g
 
DaveW said:
Whenever you install a new motherboard in a computer that had Windows
loaded on the harddrive, then after you install the new motherboard you
MUST reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of Windows. Otherwise
you can look forward to Registry errors and data corruption on-going.

Why if you can do it without reinstalling all your apps? Your answer for
everything is to format and reinstall........ You must love doing it.

Ed
 
geoff said:
My circumstance does not count because my old board was a dual processor,
but, I upgraded to an athlon, a8v board and turned it on, it started to boot
to win 2k, and at the part where it switches into a graphics mode and
displays the win 2k logo, it blue screened. I did not expect it to boot but
it was fun to watch.

-g
Well, that's it job done, it's now all up and running. The cunning plan
for keeping the xp install as was went out the window sometime yesterday
afternoon. Ended up needing a complete new install of xp and then all
the data and settings put back on :(
You win some you lose some I guess..
 
Ed said:
Why if you can do it without reinstalling all your apps? Your answer for
everything is to format and reinstall........ You must love doing it.

Ed

He's a troll with nothing better to do than wait for one of these posts,
and reply with the same advice every time. He's just trying to stir us up.
 
spodosaurus said:
He's a troll with nothing better to do than wait for one of these
posts, and reply with the same advice every time. He's just trying
to stir us up.

I'm not sure about DaveW's saying it is a must do, but I inwould.
And if one has a disk manager, working such things either way can be
much easier (if you know what you're doing).

I'm not really interested in debating the issue. The original poster
doesn't risk anything by trying to switch the mainboard out from
under Windows XP, except maybe an additional call to beg Microsoft
for another activation (but only if the new mainboard requires
another activation to begin with). A new installation will require
another activation.



To the original poster: Always have a copy of any important data
from your hard disk drive(s).

Good luck.
 
Simon said:
Well, that's it job done, it's now all up and running. The cunning plan
for keeping the xp install as was went out the window sometime yesterday
afternoon. Ended up needing a complete new install of xp and then all the
data and settings put back on :(
You win some you lose some I guess..

So what happened? Why didn't the repair install go?
 
BP said:
So what happened? Why didn't the repair install go?
The repair option made all the right noises etc, upon reboot the PC
would get just past the xp logo then reboot itself again. At this point
I decided to cut my losses and go for the format.
 
Simon said:
The repair option made all the right noises etc, upon reboot the PC would
get just past the xp logo then reboot itself again. At this point I
decided to cut my losses and go for the format.

Good to know. Thanks.
 
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