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I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates? I was told that Home Basic will allow you to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?
 
Any question about your user rights with Vista can be easily and
definitively answered by reading the EULA.TXT file created on your system
during setup.

Normally, it's one machine, running one instance of the Product Key install,
at any one time.
 
sq said:
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have
to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates? I was told that Home Basic will allow you
to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?


One license per machine is the general rule and always has been..

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sq said:
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates?
Yup.

I was told that Home Basic will allow you to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?

Nope.

MS operating systems have always been licensed one to a machine. If
you have two machines, you need two licenses.

I think people get the OS license confused with the MS Office license.
Office allows you to install on one desktop and one laptop machine.
 
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really
have to purchase 2 separate Ultimates? I was told that Home Basic will
allow you to run more than one computer at a location is that true?

Actually no, you don't HAVE to "purchase 2 separate Ultimates" you could
always run Linux on the second computer. For free.
 
Alias said:
And I would recommend Ubuntu. Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/

Alias

He doesn't need Ubuntu. He already has Vista Ultimate and doesn't need that
piece of crap OS TOY called Ubuntu. Ubuntu will just frustrate him. If he
decides to try Ubuntu, after a day or so he will figure out what garbage it
is and wipe it from his computer. Remember Ubuntu is FREE and nobody wants
it. That should tell you what an inferior product Ubuntu really is. Ubuntu
is for geeks who can't get laid and have nothing better to do with their
time.
 
sq said:
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have
to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates?

If you want to run Vista Ultimate on two separate machines, yes.
I was told that Home Basic will allow you to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?

No, it isn't true, if you mean run one licensed copy of the OS on two
separate systems.

Only the first will activate if you install using the same license key.
This is as it's always been since activation was implemented.

The only context in which MS has ever allowed multiple installs using the
same key is with Volume License versions. In that context, you purchase
the Volume License, which starts at five licenses, and get the key and one
CD.

HTH
-pk
 
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates?


Yes, if you want to run Vista Ultimate on both computers.

By the way, are you sure that your laptop can even run Vista? Are
Vista drivers available for all its hardware?

I was told that Home Basic will allow you to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?


No it's not true. It's the same for all versions of Vista, just as it
was for all versions of Windows since at least 3.1--it's one copy (or
one license) for each computer.

There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
thing new, starting with XP, is that there's now an enforcement
mechanism.
 
He doesn't need Ubuntu. He already has Vista Ultimate and doesn't need that
piece of crap OS TOY called Ubuntu. Ubuntu will just frustrate him. If he
decides to try Ubuntu, after a day or so he will figure out what garbage it
is and wipe it from his computer. Remember Ubuntu is FREE and nobody wants
it. That should tell you what an inferior product Ubuntu really is. Ubuntu
is for geeks who can't get laid and have nothing better to do with their
time.
If you and Frank could only stop your lying. It really shows you're
both afraid.

Here's a video that shows Vista and Ubuntu side by side. The desktop
is bit slicker in Ubuntu, effects are a bit better thought out, it
seems faster. Since Microsoft has a 20 year jump on the Ubuntu
developers, rather impressive since they give it away free. If I was
Microsoft, I'd be worried about what the future holds. At this point
Ubuntu lacks support for more advanced software and some hardware that
depends on Net Framework and other MicroCrap proprietary stunts.


The problem both you and Frank have is you have no clue what being
objective means.
 
The Vista EULA states:

"2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a
license, you must assign
that license to one device (physical hardware system). That device is the
“licensed device.†A
hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed
device. You may use
the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. Except as
provided in the
Storage and Network Use (Ultimate edition) sections below, you may not use
the software on any
other device.
b. Number of Users. Except as provided in the Device Connections (all
editions), Remote Access
Technologies (Home Basic and Home Premium editions) and Other Access
Technologies
(Ultimate edition) sections below, only one user may use the software at a
time.
c. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version,
such as 32-bit and 64-
bit. You may use only one version at one time."

In short, no multibooting with the same license on the same computer (a
virtual machine is also an additional "device"), no installation on any
additional computers, and you can only install either the 32bit version or
64bit version at any one time but not both.

The operative phrase is: "You may install one copy of the software..."
 
He doesn't need Ubuntu. He already has Vista Ultimate and doesn't need
that piece of crap OS TOY called Ubuntu. Ubuntu will just frustrate
him. If he decides to try Ubuntu, after a day or so he will figure out
what garbage it is and wipe it from his computer. Remember Ubuntu is
FREE and nobody wants it. That should tell you what an inferior product
Ubuntu really is. Ubuntu is for geeks who can't get laid and have
nothing better to do with their time.

IF you really thought that were the case, I would think you'd be more than
happy for him/her to TRY it. Think of all the bad press that would
generate! Now for the actual facts of the situation . . .
 
hehehe...now you've done it Bill...you're got that drunken mr pig
foaming at the mouth like a mad dog!...LOL! Frank

Generally, it's YOU I see foaming, frankie boy.
 
Mike Hall - MVP said:
One license per machine is the general rule and always has been..

Actually, one license per machine per OS at the OEM level.

That is, if I had a laptop and a desktop, similarly configured with XP and
Vista dual boot I need 4 licenses, 2 each of Vista, and 2 each of XP.

I am not sure, but I think this is true of full versions also. But at a
full version does allow some flexibility in back versions so long as only
one is running or runable.
 
Bill said:
He doesn't need Ubuntu. He already has Vista Ultimate and doesn't need that
piece of crap OS TOY called Ubuntu. Ubuntu will just frustrate him. If he
decides to try Ubuntu, after a day or so he will figure out what garbage it
is and wipe it from his computer. Remember Ubuntu is FREE and nobody wants
it. That should tell you what an inferior product Ubuntu really is. Ubuntu
is for geeks who can't get laid and have nothing better to do with their
time.

Guess what, Billy, you only speak for yourself and you're the one who
was crying your eyes out on the Ubuntu board that you couldn't install
Ubuntu. Keep your FUD and sour grapes to yourself and don't pretend to
speak for anyone but yourself.

Alias
 
Actually, one license per machine per OS at the OEM level.
That is, if I had a laptop and a desktop, similarly configured with XP and
Vista dual boot I need 4 licenses, 2 each of Vista, and 2 each of XP.
I am not sure, but I think this is true of full versions also. But at a
full version does allow some flexibility in back versions so long as only
one is running or runable.

To my way of thinking, even an upgrade version, say in a dual boot machine
with XP/Vista, should be fine.
You can only run one at a time.
So you're either using the previous (qualifying for the upgrade) version or
the new.
It may be questionable, under the EULA, if you were running the previous
version in a VM on the new version...but I wouldn't feel guilty.
 
Canuck57 said:
Actually, one license per machine per OS at the OEM level.

That is, if I had a laptop and a desktop, similarly configured with XP and
Vista dual boot I need 4 licenses, 2 each of Vista, and 2 each of XP.

I am not sure, but I think this is true of full versions also. But at a
full version does allow some flexibility in back versions so long as only
one is running or runable.


At any level..



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sq said:
I have Vista Ultimate and have a laptop as well as a PC. Do I really have to
purchase 2 separate Ultimates?


No, you don't have to purchase two licenses for Vista Ultimate. But
you do have to purchase a separate Windows (whatever version you like)
for each computer, if you want to use a Microsoft OS.

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

I was told that Home Basic will allow you to
run more than one computer at a location is that true?

Of course it's niot true. Never, ever, listen to whomever told you
that again. He is either a liar or woefully ignorant; either way, he's
certainly no reliable source of information.


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The license does not concern itself with what you are using or not using.
The license specifically states that you can install one copy of the
software. One copy.
 
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