More on the Pricelessware CD

[SINNER]

Well after a hell of a lot of clicks and some frustration, I have
finally completed downloading ALL of the freeware from Pricelessware.org
with the exception of Debian. It totals about 580 megs so it would fit
fine on a CD.

No, I haven't checked any of the agreements to see what is and isn't
distributable, nor do I intend to. I would be willing to supply burned
CD's of what I have to the Pricelessware Admin for distribution to
volunteers.

The CD will require some editing but each category has its own folder
and each app has its own folder within the corresponding category. In most
cases ZIP and EXE are available where provided.

I did find one guy that is now charging for access to all his software
so that one program is also not included. EasyCleaner by Toniarts.

 

[omega]

[...]
I did find one guy that is now charging for access to all his software
so that one program is also not included. EasyCleaner by Toniarts.

"Welcome to the Toni Arts member sign-up. As a member you will
have unlimited access to all Toni Arts products for download
and usage. A 1 year membership with Toni Arts is only $19.95."

He got jealous when seeing PCMag's manoeuvre, decided to imitate? Bah.
PCMag at least had some very special, quality utilities.

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 25 Jan 2004, SINNER wrote

-snip-

I did find one guy that is now charging for access to all his
software so that one program is also not included. EasyCleaner by
Toniarts.

Wow -- is that a recent change, or what?

The page has been changed since 22 January (which is when I downloaded
EasyCleaner); at that time, it page had nothing about "joining" like
it does now.

 

[Ionizer]

Well after a hell of a lot of clicks and some frustration, I have
finally completed downloading ALL of the freeware from Pricelessware.org
with the exception of Debian. It totals about 580 megs so it would fit
fine on a CD.

No, I haven't checked any of the agreements to see what is and isn't
distributable, nor do I intend to. I would be willing to supply burned
CD's of what I have to the Pricelessware Admin for distribution to
volunteers.

The CD will require some editing but each category has its own folder
and each app has its own folder within the corresponding category. In most
cases ZIP and EXE are available where provided.

You could always post an ISO of the CD to the binaries newsgroups....

 

[SINNER]

* Ionizer Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-25:

You could always post an ISO of the CD to the binaries newsgroups....

True, but I would not want to associate it with Pricelessware without
the permission of the Admin. Still sort of waiting for this to iron out
before I jump the gun. The first big piece is done though.

I also added a vanilla boot floppy for Debian which has the base system
but requires an internet conection to complete the install. Got the link
off debian.org. Before adding this Debian was not on the CD.

 

[CoMa]

Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)

[...]
I did find one guy that is now charging for access to all his software
so that one program is also not included. EasyCleaner by Toniarts.

"Welcome to the Toni Arts member sign-up. As a member you will
have unlimited access to all Toni Arts products for download
and usage. A 1 year membership with Toni Arts is only $19.95."

He got jealous when seeing PCMag's manoeuvre, decided to imitate? Bah.
PCMag at least had some very special, quality utilities.

Toni Arts messageboard
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=657202432&cpv=1

Read here
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=212387&mode=&cp=
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=219051&mode=&cp=


Toni Arts personal website
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/index.htm



/Hubbabub


--
Conny (CoMa) Magnusson
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.algonet.se/~hubbabub/
ICQ : 1351964
=============================
All the great men are dead,
and I don't feel so well myself.

 

[burnr]

Toni Arts messageboard
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=657202432&cpv=1

Read here
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=212387
&mode=&cp=
http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=219051
&mode=&cp=


Toni Arts personal website
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/index.htm

I'm embarressed to say that I fell into the cynical mode and took the
intial news of EC no longer being free at face value and removed it from
FW4U. Thank you for giving the heads up on the message board and authors
url.

 

[omega]

I'm embarressed to say that I fell into the cynical mode and took the
intial news of EC no longer being free at face value and removed it from
FW4U. Thank you for giving the heads up on the message board and authors
url.

Someone really ought to quote a relevant excerpt here. For those who do not
read netnews online.

 

[SINNER]

* CoMa Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-26:

Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)

SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.INVALID>:
[...]

I did find one guy that is now charging for access to all his software
so that one program is also not included. EasyCleaner by Toniarts.

"Welcome to the Toni Arts member sign-up. As a member you will
have unlimited access to all Toni Arts products for download
and usage. A 1 year membership with Toni Arts is only $19.95."
He got jealous when seeing PCMag's manoeuvre, decided to imitate? Bah.
PCMag at least had some very special, quality utilities.

[...]

Toni Arts personal website
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/index.htm

Thanks, EasyCleaner has been added to the image.

 

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

In Message <dated Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:26:53 -0800,

Someone really ought to quote a relevant excerpt here. For those who do not
read netnews online.

Why don't YOU do it instead of standing on the sidelines saying "somebody
ought to...."

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.



- Words are pegs on which to hang ideas.

 

[Susan Bugher]

Someone really ought to quote a relevant excerpt here. For those who do not
read netnews online.

Okay

The free download page is here (at his personal site):

http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/dwnloads.htm

messages:

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http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=212104&mode=&cp=

Subject: www.toniarts.com Not Found!
Name: Marie Basalone
Date Posted: Jan 11, 04 - 5:16 AM
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Message: When I used the "Check for updates" feature in Easy
Cleaner, I got an error message. When I typed www.toniarts.com into my
browser window, I got the "page not found" error. I went to Google and
searched for toniarts and found another way to get to the site. What's
happening?

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http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=212387&mode=

Subject: Re: www.toniarts.com Not Found!
Name: Toni Helenius
Date Posted: Jan 11, 04 - 9:25 PM
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Message: As you might know, I'm really a poor student and I get no
pay for what I do. It was about 2 years ago when Danima offered
toniarts.com for free, they only wanted a small ad-space. A very good &
generous offer. Recently Danima has lost large amounts of money because
of the high bandwidth needed by toniarts.com. So they are figuring out
ways that they could turn this more profit again without me having to
pay for all this. I understand Danima fully, I just hope that this
doesn't bother people much...

I think a solution of some kind can be found in these few months. I'll
"always" have the other page as well at
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts. Sorry for the trouble...

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http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=219311&mode=&cp=

Subject: Downloading EasyCleaner
Name: Frederick F Webb
Date Posted: Jan 24, 04 - 3:40 PM
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Message: TechTV’s Call for Help 1/23 episode featured your
EasyCleaner 2.0 and stressed the point it was a free program, the link
on their web page points to http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm which
forces you to a fee based membership signup page. It was only searching
through your message board that I was able to find the actual site
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/dwnloads.htm to download the
program. It was a very frustrating procedure. Nice app though.

Fred

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http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=219326&mode=

Subject: Re: Downloading EasyCleaner
Name: Toni Helenius
Date Posted: Jan 24, 04 - 4:11 PM
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Message: Do you think I enjoy this? Or am in charge in here?

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http://pub8.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=657202432&msgid=219814&mode=

Subject: Re: Re: Downloading EasyCleaner
Name: Frederick F Webb
Date Posted: Jan 25, 04 - 8:00 PM
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Message: Yep, here you go chaboot.
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/dwnloads.htm

Fred

 

[Susan Bugher]

* Ionizer Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-25:

*If* that means me - please send a message with a valid email addie to
the PL link and I'll send you my mailing address.

True, but I would not want to associate it with Pricelessware without
the permission of the Admin. Still sort of waiting for this to iron out
before I jump the gun. The first big piece is done though.

I also added a vanilla boot floppy for Debian which has the base system
but requires an internet conection to complete the install. Got the link
off debian.org. Before adding this Debian was not on the CD.

Sounds super. Would you like me to post a proposed method of
distribution and other details for review, comment, revision etc. by ACF
participants or would you rather do that yourself?

IMO so far there seems to be approval in *concept* . . .

the devil may be in the details . . .

A show of hands to see how many people are willing to do some of the
burning and distribution would be helpful too. The idea will only work
if there are volunteers.

Susan

 

[SINNER]

* Susan Bugher Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-26:

SINNER wrote:
[...]

*If* that means me - please send a message with a valid email addie to
the PL link and I'll send you my mailing address.

I believe that does mean you If you mean the 'links' address from
the site Consider it done after this post.

[...]

Sounds super. Would you like me to post a proposed method of
distribution and other details for review, comment, revision etc. by ACF
participants or would you rather do that yourself?

I was hoping you would do it, but if you need some help or collaboration
let me know.

IMO so far there seems to be approval in *concept* . . .

the devil may be in the details . . .
Agreed.

A show of hands to see how many people are willing to do some of the
burning and distribution would be helpful too. The idea will only work
if there are volunteers.

Very interested to see if this does come to fruition.

 

[Ben Cooper]

Susan Bugher wrote:

[snipped some of the devil]

the devil may be in the details . . .

A show of hands to see how many people are willing to do some of the
burning and distribution would be helpful too. The idea will only work
if there are volunteers.

David's done a large part of the legwork. If there's an ISO
which can be burned I'd be glad to join a Pricelessware
group of burners. If not officially related to
Pricelessware, then a loosely based group of a.c.f. burners
could coordinate a collection based on the Pricelessware
vote.
The ISO would only need to be updated once per year after
the official vote is finalized.

Let's do it.

 

[burnr]

A show of hands to see how many people are willing to do some of the
burning and distribution would be helpful too. The idea will only work
if there are volunteers.

I like the idea. I can do some burning and dist. My free time varies
greatly so I can't promise 100's per week, but glad to burn what I can.

btw the <nick> has nothing to do with burning cd's or fire

 

[Susan Bugher]

David's done a large part of the legwork. If there's an ISO
which can be burned I'd be glad to join a Pricelessware
group of burners. If not officially related to
Pricelessware, then a loosely based group of a.c.f. burners
could coordinate a collection based on the Pricelessware
vote.

I just posted my thoughts in a new official [PL] thread with a call
for comments. If the consensus is favorable (and it seems to be so far)
we can go for it.

The ISO would only need to be updated once per year after
the official vote is finalized.

I agree.

Let's do it.

So far we're moving in that direction.

Susan

 

[Susan Bugher]

I like the idea. I can do some burning and dist. My free time varies
greatly so I can't promise 100's per week, but glad to burn what I can.

btw the <nick> has nothing to do with burning cd's or fire

I not gonna ask . . . Yes I am, red hair?

I have no idea how great a demand there might be but IMO the idea is to
do as much burning as *you* want to do regardless of demand . . .

with luck, a *lot* of people will be willing to burn a *few* copies a
week and it will all work out. . .

Susan

 

[burnr]

I not gonna ask . . . Yes I am, red hair?

LOL no, as a young man our click of buddies we all had nick names, T-
bone,Bedro,Herk,Flint,Humpy,etc and mine wound up being burnr as one of our
crew had a heavy german accent and his pronunciation of "runner" sounded
like "burnr". I've had that nick for many, many years. Have been using the
nick to post to usenet since Oct.2000 and irc before that

 

[omega]

The free download page is here (at his personal site):

http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/dwnloads.htm

messages:

Thanks, Susan!

So, concusion #1. The primary issue. It is still freeware ...

Tentative conclusion, #2. No guilt about directing folks to download
from his home site ...

Tentative conclusion, #3. Those who do sign up for the "ToniArts
Membership," their money will go entirely to that external entity,
Danima.com ...

[...]

 

[Steven Burn]

Thanks, Susan!

So, concusion #1. The primary issue. It is still freeware ...

Tentative conclusion, #2. No guilt about directing folks to download
from his home site ...

Tentative conclusion, #3. Those who do sign up for the "ToniArts
Membership," their money will go entirely to that external entity,
Danima.com ...

</snip>

Hiya Karen,
I'm afraid you'll have to forgive my stupidity. I was
checking earlier and noticed your reply to my post, but couldn't actually
see your reply (if that makes sense)...... wasn't until I checked my blocked
senders that I realised what had happened (

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)