More free space on drive c is needed (2)

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I posted a query here the other day asking for assistance with one
particular feature of windows nt, mounting nt drives / folders. After doing
some more reading it seems that this feature not only can be used for the
situation I described but can be one of the better options.

Finereader gobbles up free disk space like crazy during operation. It can
easily consume a few gb in a minute or two.

(By the way, a simple walkaround that was not suggested to me here is to
install Finereader to a drive with more free space.)

I found out the folder of Finereader's temp files:
C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp

Now the solution to the problem would be to map this folder to a drive with
more free space. But there's a new problem here, the applet (diskmgmt.msc)
to perform this operation stores its temp files in exactly same folder as
Finereader. And only free folders can be mounted.

So can anybody knowledgeable about this feature propose a solution?

I thought of maybe using the command line, but this is a bit esoteric.

Is there another program / utility to do the job?

I would rather mount Finereader's folder to another folder than to the root.
Is this possible?
 
I posted a query here the other day asking for assistance with one
particular feature of windows nt, mounting nt drives / folders.
After doing some more reading it seems that this feature not only
can be used for the situation I described but can be one of the
better options.
Finereader gobbles up free disk space like crazy during operation.
It can easily consume a few gb in a minute or two.

(By the way, a simple walkaround that was not suggested to me here
is to install Finereader to a drive with more free space.)

I found out the folder of Finereader's temp files:
C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp

Now the solution to the problem would be to map this folder to a
drive with more free space. But there's a new problem here, the
applet (diskmgmt.msc) to perform this operation stores its temp
files in exactly same folder as Finereader. And only free folders
can be mounted.
So can anybody knowledgeable about this feature propose a solution?

I thought of maybe using the command line, but this is a bit
esoteric.
Is there another program / utility to do the job?

I would rather mount Finereader's folder to another folder than to
the root. Is this possible?
Click to expand...

Why did you not just continue your original conversation?

<entire original conversation - archived indefinitely>
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...d_support/browse_frm/thread/d8b8a88d73d9671f/
</entire original conversation - archived indefinitely>

Why would anyone in a Microsoft newsgroup suggest (definitively know) that
installing ABBYY FineReader to a different drive would resolve the issue you
are having with it? It may be programmed to utilize the %systemdrive%
environment variable for all anyone here would know.

My suggestion is still essentially the same - that your best bet is to
contact the actual manufacturers of the product you are admittedly having
the issue with, ABBYY FineReader (http://www.abbyy.com/support/).

I see where you are going - you want folder redirection now. That is *not*
a solution - that is a work-around (if you could even get it to work.) The
solution would be best gotten from those who create and support the product.

You'd probably have to redirect the entire "Local Settings" folder - as that
is actually the special folder in the profile. Although, it does bring up a
question that may make your life much easier... Try this:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
cmd /k echo %TEMP%
--> Click OK.

What is the exact folder text that comes up? Something like,
C:\DOCUME~1\john\LOCALS~1\Temp, perhaps? That is the short named version of
the folder you gave earlier, C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local
Settings\Temp. So maybe FineReader *does* use the environment variables -
in this case - the location of the system's TEMP folder. Change the
location and see what happens.

How do I change the location of Windows temporary files?
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_change_the_location_of_windows_temporary_files.html

Come back - let everyone know. I would request you *not* start a new
conversation everytime you go around a curve on your issue. ;-)
 
Why did you not just continue your original conversation?

It does not make any difference to me. But I do not use newsgroups very
often and the way my system is set up I would miss anything posted to
previous threads.

cmd /k echo %TEMP%

Returns:

C:\DOCUME~1\John\LOCALS~1\Temp

C:\Documents and Settings\John>
What is the exact folder text that comes up? Something like,
C:\DOCUME~1\john\LOCALS~1\Temp, perhaps? That is the short named version
of
the folder you gave earlier, C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local
Settings\Temp. So maybe FineReader *does* use the environment variables -
in this case - the location of the system's TEMP folder. Change the
location and see what happens.
Click to expand...

Before, when I tried changing (to Temp2) environment variables and then
deleting the line C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp
altogether both Finereader and diskmgmt.msc would still use the same folder
(C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp).
 
It does not make any difference to me. But I do not use newsgroups very
often and the way my system is set up I would miss anything posted to
previous threads.

cmd /k echo %TEMP%

Returns:

C:\DOCUME~1\John\LOCALS~1\Temp

C:\Documents and Settings\John>


Before, when I tried changing (to Temp2) environment variables and then
deleting the line C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp
altogether both Finereader and diskmgmt.msc would still use the same folder
(C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp).
Click to expand...

In general, when you need more free space on the primary XP drive (C:)
it should be time to consider "upgrading: the hard drive to a large
one. Most retail hard drive manufacturer offer a software tool
(download) which would let you to "copy over" the older C: drive to
the new hard drive.
 
I posted a query here the other day asking for assistance with one
particular feature of windows nt, mounting nt drives / folders.
After doing some more reading it seems that this feature not only
can be used for the situation I described but can be one of the
better options.
Finereader gobbles up free disk space like crazy during operation.
It can easily consume a few gb in a minute or two.

(By the way, a simple walkaround that was not suggested to me here
is to install Finereader to a drive with more free space.)

I found out the folder of Finereader's temp files:
C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp

Now the solution to the problem would be to map this folder to a
drive with more free space. But there's a new problem here, the
applet (diskmgmt.msc) to perform this operation stores its temp
files in exactly same folder as Finereader. And only free folders
can be mounted.
So can anybody knowledgeable about this feature propose a solution?

I thought of maybe using the command line, but this is a bit
esoteric.
Is there another program / utility to do the job?

I would rather mount Finereader's folder to another folder than to
the root. Is this possible?
Click to expand...

Shenan said:
Why did you not just continue your original conversation?

<entire original conversation - archived indefinitely>
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...d_support/browse_frm/thread/d8b8a88d73d9671f/
</entire original conversation - archived indefinitely>

Why would anyone in a Microsoft newsgroup suggest (definitively
know) that installing ABBYY FineReader to a different drive would
resolve the issue you are having with it? It may be programmed to
utilize the %systemdrive% environment variable for all anyone here
would know.
My suggestion is still essentially the same - that your best bet is
to contact the actual manufacturers of the product you are
admittedly having the issue with, ABBYY FineReader
(http://www.abbyy.com/support/).
I see where you are going - you want folder redirection now. That
is *not* a solution - that is a work-around (if you could even get
it to work.) The solution would be best gotten from those who
create and support the product.
You'd probably have to redirect the entire "Local Settings" folder
- as that is actually the special folder in the profile. Although,
it does bring up a question that may make your life much easier... Try
this:
Start button --> RUN --> type in:
cmd /k echo %TEMP%
--> Click OK.

What is the exact folder text that comes up? Something like,
C:\DOCUME~1\john\LOCALS~1\Temp, perhaps? That is the short named
version of the folder you gave earlier, C:\Documents and
Settings\John\Local Settings\Temp. So maybe FineReader *does* use
the environment variables - in this case - the location of the
system's TEMP folder. Change the location and see what happens.

How do I change the location of Windows temporary files?
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_change_the_location_of_windows_temporary_files.html

Come back - let everyone know. I would request you *not* start a
new conversation everytime you go around a curve on your issue. ;-)
Click to expand...

It does not make any difference to me. But I do not use newsgroups
very often and the way my system is set up I would miss anything
posted to previous threads.

cmd /k echo %TEMP%

Returns:

C:\DOCUME~1\John\LOCALS~1\Temp

C:\Documents and Settings\John>

Before, when I tried changing (to Temp2) environment variables and
then deleting the line C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local
Settings\Temp altogether both Finereader and diskmgmt.msc would
still use the same folder (C:\Documents and Settings\John\Local
Settings\Temp).
Click to expand...

Since I was able to quote the entire previous conversation in my response -
you missing anything would be inactivity/not attempting to see it on your
part - not actually missing, but ignoring. ;-) Anyone can find the previous
conversations in various ways, most very simple.

Why would you change an environment variable "TEMP2"? I don't get that.
You *want* to have the variable (TEMP and TMP), but you want its location
moved elsewhere. Thus the web page link explaining to you in detail how to
do that.

How do I change the location of Windows temporary files?
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_change_the_location_of_windows_temporary_files.htmlFollow the directions there to change the path for TEMP and TMP using theGUI steps given. Reboot when you are done. Verify - with the command givenearlier - the change stuck. Try your program again.If that does not work...http://www.abbyy.com/support/orPurchase a larger hard disk drive and get a decent disk cloning/imagingapplication and use to to clone your current hard drive structure to a newhard drive - but resizing the partitions as you see fit.Those two things are solutions. The redirected TEMP/TMP thing is awork-around that could possibly get reset by various means. ;-)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
In general, when you need more free space on the primary XP drive (C:)
it should be time to consider "upgrading: the hard drive to a large
one. Most retail hard drive manufacturer offer a software tool
(download) which would let you to "copy over" the older C: drive to
the new hard drive.
Click to expand...

This would be nice but not just now.
 
Why would you change an environment variable "TEMP2"? I don't get that.
You *want* to have the variable (TEMP and TMP), but you want its location
moved elsewhere. Thus the web page link explaining to you in detail how
to do that.

How do I change the location of Windows temporary files?
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_change_the_location_of_windows_temporary_files.htmlFollow
the directions there to change the path for TEMP and TMP using theGUI
steps given. Reboot when you are done. Verify - with the command
givenearlier - the change stuck. Try your program again.If that does not
work...http://www.abbyy.com/support/orPurchase a larger hard disk drive
and get a decent disk cloning/imagingapplication and use to to clone your
current hard drive structure to a newhard drive - but resizing the
partitions as you see fit.Those two things are solutions. The redirected
TEMP/TMP thing is awork-around that could possibly get reset by various
means. ;-)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask Questions The Smart
Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Click to expand...

The reason I tried changing temp to temp2 in the environment variables is
simple, if I could uncouple either Finereader or diskmgmt.msc from that
particular folder, I could then use diskmgmt.msc to apply the necessary
changes. I just tried it again, rebooted, verified the change through the
command line, and both Finereader and diskmgmt.msc still use the original
temp folder.

Solution / workaround is subjective. Right now I am interested in "The
redirected TEMP/TMP thing".
 
<snipped>

Shenan said:
Since I was able to quote the entire previous conversation in my
response - you missing anything would be inactivity/not
attempting to see it on your part - not actually missing, but
ignoring. ;-) Anyone can find the previous conversations in
various ways, most very simple.

Why would you change an environment variable "TEMP2"?
I don't get that. You *want* to have the variable (TEMP and TMP),
but you want its location moved elsewhere. Thus the web page
link explaining to you in detail how to do that.

How do I change the location of Windows temporary files?
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_change_the_location_of_windows_temporary_files.html
Follow the directions there to change the path for TEMP and TMP
using the GUI steps given. Reboot when you are done. Verify - with
the command given earlier - the change stuck. Try your program again.

If that does not work... http://www.abbyy.com/support/
or
Purchase a larger hard disk drive and get a decent disk
cloning/imaging application and use to to clone your current hard
drive structure to a new hard drive - but resizing the partitions as
you see fit.

Those two things are solutions. The redirected TEMP/TMP
thing is awork-around that could possibly get reset by various
means. ;-)
Click to expand...

The reason I tried changing temp to temp2 in the environment
variables is simple, if I could uncouple either Finereader or
diskmgmt.msc from that particular folder, I could then use
diskmgmt.msc to apply the necessary changes. I just tried it again,
rebooted, verified the change through the command line, and both
Finereader and diskmgmt.msc still use the original temp folder.

Solution / workaround is subjective. Right now I am interested in
"The redirected TEMP/TMP thing".
Click to expand...

The environement variable has no connection with anything. It is there to
be used. If you want it to point somewhere else - you change it. I think
you are over-thinking.

TEMP/TMP environment variables have no idea any of your programs exist -
could care less - have no direct connection with any of them. Now the
individual programs may be using said environmental variables for their own
purpose, *or* they may have the path a little more hard coded...

In any case - why just be interested? The directions are straight-forward
and easily reversed.

And no - it's not really all that subjective. Once the 'work-around' gets
automatically reversed by something a few times - it proves itself a
work-around. A solution would permanently fix it. ;-)
 
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