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Mike Sanders

I can login in safe mode under the admin login - that's
why I asked for help here.It seems line active directroy
is out to lunch.

1) Can AD be removed via safe mode?
2) I will run checkdisk, which I have not done yet

Mike
 
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Mike Sanders said:
I can login in safe mode under the admin login - that's
why I asked for help here.It seems line active directroy
is out to lunch.

1) Can AD be removed via safe mode?
2) I will run checkdisk, which I have not done yet

Mike

Can you give us more details as to what possible changes/installs, etc,
(even the slightest config setting change) were made prior to this problem?

Event log errors too? (They can be viewed in DSRM or safe mode).

Is this the only DC in your domain?


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In Mike Sanders <[email protected]> posted their thoughts,
then I offered mine

Can you give us more details as to what possible changes/installs, etc,
(even the slightest config setting change) were made prior to this problem?

Event log errors too? (They can be viewed in DSRM or safe mode).

Is this the only DC in your domain?


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Ace

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ACE:

Fortunately this is a test server or I'd be in more of a
panic. But, I'd hate to lose the configuration time if I
don't have to.

1) I added a USB 2.0 PCI card - that I since removed. It
was working with an external hard drive just fine.
2) I've been working with True Image v7.0 for backups to
the external HDD.
3) Hardware platform is a Pentium-3 950MHz Celeron, ATA-
133 IDE single HDD.
4) This server has one PCI card - an Ethernet adapter.
5) The system does seem to dwell on setting up network
connections for a long time.
6) After the Login panel all I get is a Blue Windows
background and a Mouse arrow. This is not a 'Blue Screen'
thype failure. I do not see much happening with the HDD
while it is stalled. I cannot get to the Task list.
7) After logging in in safe mode to the Admin ID I checked
for entries in the evet logs - none. I know there should
be at least one "A service has not started or has timed
out check the event log" message prior to the Login panel.

Thanks,
Mike
 
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Mike Sanders said:
ACE:

Fortunately this is a test server or I'd be in more of a
panic. But, I'd hate to lose the configuration time if I
don't have to.

1) I added a USB 2.0 PCI card - that I since removed. It
was working with an external hard drive just fine.
2) I've been working with True Image v7.0 for backups to
the external HDD.
3) Hardware platform is a Pentium-3 950MHz Celeron, ATA-
133 IDE single HDD.
4) This server has one PCI card - an Ethernet adapter.
5) The system does seem to dwell on setting up network
connections for a long time.
6) After the Login panel all I get is a Blue Windows
background and a Mouse arrow. This is not a 'Blue Screen'
thype failure. I do not see much happening with the HDD
while it is stalled. I cannot get to the Task list.
7) After logging in in safe mode to the Admin ID I checked
for entries in the evet logs - none. I know there should
be at least one "A service has not started or has timed
out check the event log" message prior to the Login panel.

Thanks,
Mike

Hmm, other than that USB, not sure where to start on this. Apparently it
*seems* (more than likely) a driver or device causing this.

Prior to removing the USB device, did you eliminate that HHD out of the
backup software to look for that on startup? Maybe disable the services
related to the back software? Maybe uninstall it (True Image) thru safe
mode? You didn't by chance install SP4 prior to this?

FYI: I had similar problems with a Firewire card in a DC once. Once I
removed it the system booted fine. I wound up putting it into another slot
and it worked out fine. Not saying this is it, just wanted to mention that.

The long logon times in AD are usually (99% of the time) DNS related.


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-----Original Message-----
In Mike Sanders <[email protected]> posted their thoughts,
then I offered mine

Hmm, other than that USB, not sure where to start on this. Apparently it
*seems* (more than likely) a driver or device causing this.

Prior to removing the USB device, did you eliminate that HHD out of the
backup software to look for that on startup? Maybe disable the services
related to the back software? Maybe uninstall it (True Image) thru safe
mode? You didn't by chance install SP4 prior to this?

FYI: I had similar problems with a Firewire card in a DC once. Once I
removed it the system booted fine. I wound up putting it into another slot
and it worked out fine. Not saying this is it, just wanted to mention that.

The long logon times in AD are usually (99% of the time) DNS related.


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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
Ace:

Thanks for the reply.

No, couldn't remove the HDD since I was not yet aware that
I could login as admin under safe mode.

I'll try uninstalling True Image. Earlier I had set all
True Image services to Manual from Automatic start. I was
worried about its scheduler.

Good tip concerning the DNS and long Login times...

Mike
 
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Ace:

Thanks for the reply.

No, couldn't remove the HDD since I was not yet aware that
I could login as admin under safe mode.

I'll try uninstalling True Image. Earlier I had set all
True Image services to Manual from Automatic start. I was
worried about its scheduler.

Good tip concerning the DNS and long Login times...

Mike

I hope it helps out. Post back and let us know how you make out.

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posted their thoughts, then I offered mine

I hope it helps out. Post back and let us know how you make out.

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Ace

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Ace:

Removing True Image and a couple of other unused programs
did not do the trick. I buy into you thought that DNS is
probably hosed.

I tried dcpromo under safe mode but it reports that it
cannot promote the controller. This is either a bogus
message or DNS cannot be contacted which fits with the
other symptoms.

Is there a way to get rid of DNS and AD and still access
Win2K?

Mike
 
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Ace:

Removing True Image and a couple of other unused programs
did not do the trick. I buy into you thought that DNS is
probably hosed.

I tried dcpromo under safe mode but it reports that it
cannot promote the controller. This is either a bogus
message or DNS cannot be contacted which fits with the
other symptoms.

Is there a way to get rid of DNS and AD and still access
Win2K?

Mike

Actually never tried it in Safe Mode because alot of the necessary services
are not running, such as the NTFRS, netlogon, etc.

If you want to get rid of AD of this machine, you can either use this
article to use a dcpromo /forceremoval or follow a 12 step method that I got
from someone a long time ago. Either way it will work. Look at the article
first. If you want the 12 steps, I can post them too.

332199 - Using the DCPROMO -FORCEREMOVAL Command to Force the Demotion of
Active Directory Domain Controllers:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=332199

The article requires that you contact MS PSS for the update. It's a 5 meg
file. If you don't want to call them (but it's free anyway) and your email
system can handle it, I can send it to you.

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Ace

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