Monitor with small connector?

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Chris Fonville

I am looking for a monitor with a small VGA connector. What I'm talking
about is how far it comes out from the computer when plugged in, do they
make them an inch or smaller? If not, is there anywhere I can buy a smaller
end, so I can cut and solder the wires myself? I have found the radioshack
part #, but I'm not sure if it's any smaller or not.

I was also wondering if there were CRT monitors that the VGA connector
unplugs from both the computer AND on the monitor itself?

The last thing that might help me is whether or not I can use the S-Video
out on my video card to output to the monitor? I have read that S-Video and
VGA are two different things so what would I have to use to do this? Thank
you in advance for any help,
Chris
 
Chris Fonville said:
I am looking for a monitor with a small VGA connector. What I'm talking
about is how far it comes out from the computer when plugged in, do they
make them an inch or smaller? If not, is there anywhere I can buy a smaller
end, so I can cut and solder the wires myself? I have found the radioshack
part #, but I'm not sure if it's any smaller or not.
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Why? You can't put your PC flat against the wall anyhow or the PSU will
overheat. Cutting and resoldering will most likely degrade the qualitiy of
the picture due to the damage to the shielding.

If the monitor is too close to the wall, just get a monitor where the plug
isn't at the very back of the monitor. Many have the plug pointing down.
I was also wondering if there were CRT monitors that the VGA connector
unplugs from both the computer AND on the monitor itself?
Click to expand...

Some do, but I don't know of any models offhand. I know I have a 15" here
someplace that has a separate cable. I don't think I've seen an LCD monitor
that has the cable attached.
The last thing that might help me is whether or not I can use the S-Video
out on my video card to output to the monitor? I have read that S-Video and
VGA are two different things so what would I have to use to do this?
Click to expand...

SVideo would be for going to a TV or VCR. Definately NOT compatible with a
VGA monitor.
 
Noozer said:
Why? You can't put your PC flat against the wall anyhow or the PSU will
overheat. Cutting and resoldering will most likely degrade the qualitiy of
the picture due to the damage to the shielding.

If the monitor is too close to the wall, just get a monitor where the plug
isn't at the very back of the monitor. Many have the plug pointing down.
Click to expand...

I'm not using a standard case. It's a project I'm working on and the case
is completely custom. Putting it against the wall has nothing to do with
it. I'm thinking of buying a 15-pin d-sub male connector from radioshack,
soldering the wires and testing it on a test monitor. The plug from the
monitor also has nothing to do with it, except that I would prefer that,
when moving the computer, I could leave the cord attached to the computer
and simply unplug it from the monitor. This is not required though.

Some do, but I don't know of any models offhand. I know I have a 15" here
someplace that has a separate cable. I don't think I've seen an LCD
monitor
that has the cable attached.


SVideo would be for going to a TV or VCR. Definately NOT compatible with a
VGA monitor.
Click to expand...

And there's no way it can be adapted in any way? If not, why? I didn't
think this was an option, but I am curious as to why. Thanks,
Chris
 
Chris Fonville said:
I'm not using a standard case. It's a project I'm working on and the case
is completely custom. Putting it against the wall has nothing to do with
it. I'm thinking of buying a 15-pin d-sub male connector from radioshack,
soldering the wires and testing it on a test monitor. The plug from the
monitor also has nothing to do with it, except that I would prefer that,
when moving the computer, I could leave the cord attached to the computer
and simply unplug it from the monitor. This is not required though.
Click to expand...

what if you went with a right-angle VGA connector?

http://www.trinetusa.com/d_vc_c18_hd15mm_r_cables.htm

Finding a CRT monitor with a detachable cable may be difficult these days. I
haven't seen one in quite sometime. Although if you are proficient with a
soldering iron and some fabrication, I don't see why you couldn't retrofit a
modern CRT case with a VGA jack to accept a detachable cable.
 
Thor said:
what if you went with a right-angle VGA connector?

http://www.trinetusa.com/d_vc_c18_hd15mm_r_cables.htm
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I like that, and as long as the right-angle end wasn't very long it would
work well. The only problem is I would need to get an LCD monitor which I
don't have the budget for.
Finding a CRT monitor with a detachable cable may be difficult these days.
I haven't seen one in quite sometime. Although if you are proficient with
a soldering iron and some fabrication, I don't see why you couldn't
retrofit a modern CRT case with a VGA jack to accept a detachable cable.
Click to expand...
I'm not so much wanting it to detach from the monitor so much as I need the
computer connector smaller. However, would cutting the monitor cable to
resolder it cause any problems? Thanks,
Chris
 
I'm not so much wanting it to detach from the monitor so much as I need
the computer connector smaller. However, would cutting the monitor cable
to resolder it cause any problems? Thanks,
Chris
Click to expand...

No. Not as long it is done correctly, and keep the unshielded wire length to
a minimum.
 
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:22:04 -0500, "Chris Fonville"


I'm not using a standard case. It's a project I'm working on and the case
is completely custom. Putting it against the wall has nothing to do with
it. I'm thinking of buying a 15-pin d-sub male connector from radioshack,
soldering the wires and testing it on a test monitor. The plug from the
monitor also has nothing to do with it, except that I would prefer that,
when moving the computer, I could leave the cord attached to the computer
and simply unplug it from the monitor. This is not required though.
Click to expand...

Not a good idea to move equipment with a (relatively) heavy
cord attached, it may strain the connections or socket mount
on the PCB.


And there's no way it can be adapted in any way? If not, why? I didn't
think this was an option, but I am curious as to why. Thanks,
Click to expand...

SVideo can be converted with more hardware (external
coverter box), but SVideo is a different format, is
inferior... converting back will result in very, very poor
signal unsuited for use for more than watching movies or
playing low-res games.
 
Thor said:
No. Not as long it is done correctly, and keep the unshielded wire length
to a minimum.
Click to expand...
I picked up the 15 pin d-sub solder connector today (2 of them) at
radioshack and will try this. Hopefully it will work. Thanks,
Chris
 
kony said:
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:22:04 -0500, "Chris Fonville"




Not a good idea to move equipment with a (relatively) heavy
cord attached, it may strain the connections or socket mount
on the PCB.
Click to expand...
If I do have it where the cord can be disconnected from the monitor, the
wire will be attached the inside of the computer as to not pull on the card,
etc.
SVideo can be converted with more hardware (external
coverter box), but SVideo is a different format, is
inferior... converting back will result in very, very poor
signal unsuited for use for more than watching movies or
playing low-res games.
Click to expand...
Thanks for that info, I will just have to stick with the VGA then. Thanks
again,
Chris
 
If I do have it where the cord can be disconnected from the monitor, the
wire will be attached the inside of the computer as to not pull on the card,
etc.
Click to expand...

Monitors are often a different story, typically the cord has
a moulded flange where it enters the monitor, if not another
mechanism clamping down at that point, making it distinctly
more secure than at the other end. I actually prefer
permanently attached monitor cord due to removal of that
pair of mechanical connectors.
 
Watch out though, as if your video jack's inverted when setup, the cable
could end up pointing to the left instead of the right. So if left/right's
a concern. Take note.
 
Bronney Hui said:
Watch out though, as if your video jack's inverted when setup, the cable
could end up pointing to the left instead of the right. So if
left/right's
a concern. Take note.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure that I follow... the d-sub connector will only fit one way, I
am just not understanding. What do you mean? Thanks,
Chris
 
Chris,

I am guessing that you'd like a small connector because there will be
very little space at the back of your computer case once setup,
correct?

So that when everything's setup the cable should point to the right
direction, either sticking out to the left or the right of the back of
the case right? Thing is, I went thru more than 8 video cards in my
life and noticed that the orientation of the D-Sub jack on video cards
can vary. Some with the trapazoid pointing up and some pointing down.

So now if you got the 90° VGA cord, and there's only 1 way the plug
would fit on the jack, you gotto find out in advance whether the cable
would point left or right after plugged in. You don't want a loop of
cable at the back of the case I suppose. Assuming placement of your
case in the environment matters.

-bron
 
Thanks for everybody's help, however I found this type of cord:
http://hallresearch.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ultrathin-4-300.jpg

which is exactly what I need. The price is steep (I only needed a 3 ft.
cord, but that was $15 after shipping). The cord actually connects inside
the case, the ports aren't on the outside of the computer. Having the
computer against a wall has nothing to do with it. I hope this helps
somebody who would like a smaller vga cord,
Chris
 
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