Monitor or graphic card

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Roger

Please advise not sure if it is my Monitor LG1919s or graphic card Creative
Labs CT 6970 at fault. Problem my screen is now displaying grey horizontal
lines as though looking through a Venetian blind.
any window I open showing grey tint where as before would be white
background. I have refitted said card, done a auto set with monitor, done a
system restore point but still no improvement.
I run Xp pro sp2 and had no problem before, so something is breaking down.
My board is ECS SIS 735 K7S5A system a few years old but has worked great.
Any checks !! PS device Manager no problems but have checked it for update
drivers.

Regard Roger
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Roger said:
Please advise not sure if it is my Monitor LG1919s or graphic card
Creative Labs CT 6970 at fault. Problem my screen is now displaying grey
horizontal lines as though looking through a Venetian blind.
any window I open showing grey tint where as before would be white
background. I have refitted said card, done a auto set with monitor, done
a system restore point but still no improvement.
I run Xp pro sp2 and had no problem before, so something is breaking down.
My board is ECS SIS 735 K7S5A system a few years old but has worked
great. Any checks !! PS device Manager no problems but have checked it
for update drivers.

Regard Roger
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Try changing the resolution and see if the problem goes away. If you know
anyone with a laptop, have them come over and hook your monitor up to it. If
you go into a full screen game, do you get the same effect?
 
SC Tom said:
Try changing the resolution and see if the problem goes away. If you know
anyone with a laptop, have them come over and hook your monitor up to it.
If you go into a full screen game, do you get the same effect?
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Thanks for prompt reply, changed res, no good, My normal is 1280x1025 32bit.
I have a desktop but trying to borrow another flat screen for test. I am a
pensioner so don't play the games ! Like this reply where the word line
finishes the banding continues to edge of doc

Roger
 
Roger said:
Thanks for prompt reply, changed res, no good, My normal is 1280x1025
32bit. I have a desktop but trying to borrow another flat screen for test.
I am a pensioner so don't play the games ! Like this reply where the word
line finishes the banding continues to edge of doc

Roger
Well I have since connected my Monitor to a neighbours Desktop and it
appeared to display OK without any banding lines across screen when a
window is open .i.e like email window etc. So is it now only my graphic
card playing up ?
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If so if I am to replace my Creative CT 6970 what type would suit my old
board etc etc. It may pay me to get a used, as system oldish compared to new
standards and would be waste spending to much as I don't do gaming but don't
want to drop performance.

Roger
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

have a look there.. you should copy and paste the link.
any of those cards will fit and they are fairly inexpensive.
EVGA,XfX and Saphire are fairly well known and have decent warranties

I am sure they have a comparable online store in the UK that you can
do a price look up
My inexpensive choice:
SAPPHIRE 100258L Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready Video
Card

peter
 
Roger said:
If so if I am to replace my Creative CT 6970 what type would suit my old
board etc etc. It may pay me to get a used, as system oldish compared to
new standards and would be waste spending to much as I don't do gaming but
don't want to drop performance.

Roger
Click to expand...

You can get a PCI card like one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

or an AGP 2.0 card if you can find one. You might be able to find an exact
replacement on eBay or Craig's if you wanted to go that route.

If you don't do any heavy gaming or photo editing or any graphics-intensive
stuff, one of the cheap PCI cards would probably work just fine. On most
older cards, it's just a matter of finding the right drivers for your
operating system.

Would your neighbor be willing to hook his monitor up to your system just to
be sure it's the card? Double-check your cable to make sure it hasn't been
damaged in any way and that it's connected tightly.
 
Roger said:
If so if I am to replace my Creative CT 6970 what type would suit my old
board etc etc. It may pay me to get a used, as system oldish compared to new
standards and would be waste spending to much as I don't do gaming but don't
want to drop performance.

Roger
Click to expand...

You have plenty of choices. Your K7S5A supports AGP 4X cards (1.5V operation on I/O).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9639&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Subcategory=48

There are two main brands there, ATI or Nvidia based solutions.

ATI uses PCI Express GPU chips on their newest cards. They use a bridge chip
to convert to AGP protocol. The "Rialto" chip is the one here, on the back
of the video card, surrounded by pink protective material. Rialto is a 4X/8X
bridge.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S04?$S640W$

The ATI HD 4650 would be a relatively powerful card for gaming. I know you
don't care about gaming, and that would be its chief advantage. A second
advantage it would have, is acceleration for playback of certain kinds of
video. So if you found your CPU wasn't powerful enough to play back DVDs
for example, the GPU on a card like this may provide some measure of
acceleration on playback. A third advantage of modern cards like this one,
is support for dual link DVI interface, allowing a 30" Apple monitor to be
driven by the card. Owning this card might also enable the AVIVO
converter software which you can download from ATI/AMD. The AVIVO software
was offered at one time, for video format conversion (if you process movies
you've downloaded).

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S01?$S640W$

You'll notice that card has two DVI connectors. If you have a VGA monitor,
they include a passive adapter dongle to make the proper 15 pins for VGA.
It is shown as an item included within the package. ("DVI to VGA")

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S05?$S640W$

The main downside of the most modern ATI cards, is the state of the drivers.
You should read the reviews on Newegg, to find the location of the best driver
for the card. As long as the reviews for the card can identify a good
driver version to use, this is a safe purchase.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102851

On the Nvidia side of things, Nvidia too used to make bridged designs.
They'd take their new PCI Express chips and add a bridge chip they designed
called "HSI". The story is, that the foundry making the HSI chip, is no
longer making it. This effectively means the end of Nvidia addressing
the AGP market in an active way.

Interesting. This 7600GS still has the HSI chip on it. The HSI chip is the
small rectangular aluminum heatsink below the main fan. This card has
VGA and DVI on the faceplate, so for a single monitor, no adapter dongle
need be installed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814143069

The Geforce 6200 is about the oldest one I know of, that still has driver
support. (I haven't checked lately to see if it is still on the newest drivers.)
This would support a 1280x1024 monitor without any complaints, but you never
know - it might have issues with higher resolution monitors if you buy one
some day. The driver situation on this should be OK. The keying on this
one, shows universal keying, so in theory, you could even slap this
card in a ten year old, AGP equipped computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130452

A number of the 6200 cards are fanless. They still get warm. Depending on
the cooling present in the computer case, they may get hot while you're
gaming. I own a couple fanless FX5200 cards (the card just before 6200
came out), and one of those, I have to point an 80mm fan at the heatsink
of the video card, to keep it cool. A fanless card can give you quiet operation,
as long as the heatsink is effective enough for the heat load. (I bolt a wooden
paint stirrer stick to a PCI slot cover, and suspend the 80mm fan with nylon
wraps to keep it pointed at the video card :-) )

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-452-S01?$S640W$

You can see here, an example of a recent Nvidia driver download.
Clicking the "Supported Products" tab shows 6200, 6200 Turbocache and
the like, are still listed. (You don't really want Turbocache cards,
because when gaming, they can steal some system memory for textures.)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_196.21_whql.html

If I didn't value movie playback acceleration (which comes with no guarantees,
and depends on the player application as well), then a 6200 may be good enough
for a 1280x1024 monitor. If I wanted a card that I could use to drive a
30" Apple LCD monitor via dual link DVI connector, I'd pick the HD 4650.

For some technical info about AGP selection in general, you can try this page.
But with your 4X slot, I don't expect a problem.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

Have fun,
Paul
 
Paul said:
You have plenty of choices. Your K7S5A supports AGP 4X cards (1.5V
operation on I/O).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9639&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Subcategory=48

There are two main brands there, ATI or Nvidia based solutions.

ATI uses PCI Express GPU chips on their newest cards. They use a bridge
chip
to convert to AGP protocol. The "Rialto" chip is the one here, on the back
of the video card, surrounded by pink protective material. Rialto is a
4X/8X
bridge.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S04?$S640W$

The ATI HD 4650 would be a relatively powerful card for gaming. I know you
don't care about gaming, and that would be its chief advantage. A second
advantage it would have, is acceleration for playback of certain kinds of
video. So if you found your CPU wasn't powerful enough to play back DVDs
for example, the GPU on a card like this may provide some measure of
acceleration on playback. A third advantage of modern cards like this one,
is support for dual link DVI interface, allowing a 30" Apple monitor to be
driven by the card. Owning this card might also enable the AVIVO
converter software which you can download from ATI/AMD. The AVIVO software
was offered at one time, for video format conversion (if you process
movies
you've downloaded).

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S01?$S640W$

You'll notice that card has two DVI connectors. If you have a VGA monitor,
they include a passive adapter dongle to make the proper 15 pins for VGA.
It is shown as an item included within the package. ("DVI to VGA")

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S05?$S640W$

The main downside of the most modern ATI cards, is the state of the
drivers.
You should read the reviews on Newegg, to find the location of the best
driver
for the card. As long as the reviews for the card can identify a good
driver version to use, this is a safe purchase.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102851

On the Nvidia side of things, Nvidia too used to make bridged designs.
They'd take their new PCI Express chips and add a bridge chip they
designed
called "HSI". The story is, that the foundry making the HSI chip, is no
longer making it. This effectively means the end of Nvidia addressing
the AGP market in an active way.

Interesting. This 7600GS still has the HSI chip on it. The HSI chip is the
small rectangular aluminum heatsink below the main fan. This card has
VGA and DVI on the faceplate, so for a single monitor, no adapter dongle
need be installed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814143069

The Geforce 6200 is about the oldest one I know of, that still has driver
support. (I haven't checked lately to see if it is still on the newest
drivers.)
This would support a 1280x1024 monitor without any complaints, but you
never
know - it might have issues with higher resolution monitors if you buy one
some day. The driver situation on this should be OK. The keying on this
one, shows universal keying, so in theory, you could even slap this
card in a ten year old, AGP equipped computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130452

A number of the 6200 cards are fanless. They still get warm. Depending on
the cooling present in the computer case, they may get hot while you're
gaming. I own a couple fanless FX5200 cards (the card just before 6200
came out), and one of those, I have to point an 80mm fan at the heatsink
of the video card, to keep it cool. A fanless card can give you quiet
operation,
as long as the heatsink is effective enough for the heat load. (I bolt a
wooden
paint stirrer stick to a PCI slot cover, and suspend the 80mm fan with
nylon
wraps to keep it pointed at the video card :-) )

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-452-S01?$S640W$

You can see here, an example of a recent Nvidia driver download.
Clicking the "Supported Products" tab shows 6200, 6200 Turbocache and
the like, are still listed. (You don't really want Turbocache cards,
because when gaming, they can steal some system memory for textures.)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_196.21_whql.html

If I didn't value movie playback acceleration (which comes with no
guarantees,
and depends on the player application as well), then a 6200 may be good
enough
for a 1280x1024 monitor. If I wanted a card that I could use to drive a
30" Apple LCD monitor via dual link DVI connector, I'd pick the HD 4650.

For some technical info about AGP selection in general, you can try this
page.
But with your 4X slot, I don't expect a problem.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

Have fun,
Paul
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Well thank you Paul for plenty to study and the other posters as well, it
all helps.
I only use SDRAM which is 750 at moment as board max is 1GB. As with my old
card CT6970 is for my RAM but the CT6971 is for DDR type so I must be
careful.
Roger
 
Roger said:
Well thank you Paul for plenty to study and the other posters as well, it
all helps.
I only use SDRAM which is 750 at moment as board max is 1GB. As with my
old card CT6970 is for my RAM but the CT6971 is for DDR type so I must be
careful.
Roger
PS Sorry I missed this off The info for CT6970 I beleive is 32mb G Force
256 Annililator Pro AGP ! Would higher MB have an effect on my board as I
see you quote Radeon 512mb when looking for an AGP any caution about its
memory
Click to expand...
Roger
 
The onboard memory of the Video card does not care what kind of RAM
you use on the Mobo,The more memory the video card has the better for you.
peter
 
Paul said:
You have plenty of choices. Your K7S5A supports AGP 4X cards (1.5V
operation on I/O).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9639&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Subcategory=48

There are two main brands there, ATI or Nvidia based solutions.

ATI uses PCI Express GPU chips on their newest cards. They use a bridge
chip
to convert to AGP protocol. The "Rialto" chip is the one here, on the back
of the video card, surrounded by pink protective material. Rialto is a
4X/8X
bridge.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S04?$S640W$

The ATI HD 4650 would be a relatively powerful card for gaming. I know you
don't care about gaming, and that would be its chief advantage. A second
advantage it would have, is acceleration for playback of certain kinds of
video. So if you found your CPU wasn't powerful enough to play back DVDs
for example, the GPU on a card like this may provide some measure of
acceleration on playback. A third advantage of modern cards like this one,
is support for dual link DVI interface, allowing a 30" Apple monitor to be
driven by the card. Owning this card might also enable the AVIVO
converter software which you can download from ATI/AMD. The AVIVO software
was offered at one time, for video format conversion (if you process
movies
you've downloaded).

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S01?$S640W$

You'll notice that card has two DVI connectors. If you have a VGA monitor,
they include a passive adapter dongle to make the proper 15 pins for VGA.
It is shown as an item included within the package. ("DVI to VGA")

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-851-S05?$S640W$

The main downside of the most modern ATI cards, is the state of the
drivers.
You should read the reviews on Newegg, to find the location of the best
driver
for the card. As long as the reviews for the card can identify a good
driver version to use, this is a safe purchase.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102851

On the Nvidia side of things, Nvidia too used to make bridged designs.
They'd take their new PCI Express chips and add a bridge chip they
designed
called "HSI". The story is, that the foundry making the HSI chip, is no
longer making it. This effectively means the end of Nvidia addressing
the AGP market in an active way.

Interesting. This 7600GS still has the HSI chip on it. The HSI chip is the
small rectangular aluminum heatsink below the main fan. This card has
VGA and DVI on the faceplate, so for a single monitor, no adapter dongle
need be installed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814143069

The Geforce 6200 is about the oldest one I know of, that still has driver
support. (I haven't checked lately to see if it is still on the newest
drivers.)
This would support a 1280x1024 monitor without any complaints, but you
never
know - it might have issues with higher resolution monitors if you buy one
some day. The driver situation on this should be OK. The keying on this
one, shows universal keying, so in theory, you could even slap this
card in a ten year old, AGP equipped computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130452

A number of the 6200 cards are fanless. They still get warm. Depending on
the cooling present in the computer case, they may get hot while you're
gaming. I own a couple fanless FX5200 cards (the card just before 6200
came out), and one of those, I have to point an 80mm fan at the heatsink
of the video card, to keep it cool. A fanless card can give you quiet
operation,
as long as the heatsink is effective enough for the heat load. (I bolt a
wooden
paint stirrer stick to a PCI slot cover, and suspend the 80mm fan with
nylon
wraps to keep it pointed at the video card :-) )

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-452-S01?$S640W$

You can see here, an example of a recent Nvidia driver download.
Clicking the "Supported Products" tab shows 6200, 6200 Turbocache and
the like, are still listed. (You don't really want Turbocache cards,
because when gaming, they can steal some system memory for textures.)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_196.21_whql.html

If I didn't value movie playback acceleration (which comes with no
guarantees,
and depends on the player application as well), then a 6200 may be good
enough
for a 1280x1024 monitor. If I wanted a card that I could use to drive a
30" Apple LCD monitor via dual link DVI connector, I'd pick the HD 4650.

For some technical info about AGP selection in general, you can try this
page.
But with your 4X slot, I don't expect a problem.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

Have fun,
Paul
Click to expand...

It looks as though I will be going for AGP Geforce 6200 as you said my old
board should support it but there appears to
be more slots in gold pins, will this still fit the K7S5A board, As my old
card CT 6970 only has one gap in pins.
Roger
 
The length of the Gold connectors are the same.
The extra slot does not connect a certain aspect of the video card.
I suspect in that case it has no HDMI and therefore the connection
is not needed.

peter
 
Roger said:
It looks as though I will be going for AGP Geforce 6200 as you said my old
board should support it but there appears to
be more slots in gold pins, will this still fit the K7S5A board, As my old
card CT 6970 only has one gap in pins.
Roger
Click to expand...

You should be looking at the photos on playtool.com.

A card with two slots cut in the edge connector, is a "universal" card
capable of operating at 1.5 or 3.3 VIO voltage.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/voltageslots.jpg

The way this works, is the AGP slot on the motherboard, has a plastic
"bump" or key, inside the connector. A "universal" video card, with the
two slots cut, can be plugged into a motherboard with a "bump" in
either location, and the card will seat. The "key and slot" system
is for preventing the mixing of incompatible voltage devices.

Your previous video card may have been a 1.5V-only video card. The new card
supports 1.5V or 3.3V, so should plug in and fit into the slot. If it does
not fit, come back and ask for help here, rather than taking a chance.
Don't force a card that doesn't want to go in the slot.

These are the playtool.com entries for the hardware you're talking about.
Consult the "Practical Motherboard And Card Compatibility" table, to see
that these can be safely mixed (any of the options shown here will work).

SiS735 Universal AGP Motherboard

NVIDIA GeForce 6200 Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card or Universal AGP 3.0 Card
(A card with "two slots cut" is the latter one.)

There are a limited number of older video cards in circulation, where the
slot is cut in the wrong place, for the kind of card. Generally speaking,
those are the only cards to be very careful with, if changing video cards,
because they can be plugged into the wrong kind of motherboard and ruin it.
Cards manufactured in the last 5-8 years should be reasonably safe,
as the companies eventually figured out what they were supposed to be
doing.

HTH,
Paul
 
peter said:
The length of the Gold connectors are the same.
The extra slot does not connect a certain aspect of the video card.
I suspect in that case it has no HDMI and therefore the connection
is not needed.

peter

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Click to expand...
[Snip]

Thank you for that, I hope this is last query. Do you think it will be a
straight Plug-Play and windows load driver, I would not need to do changes
to Bios ! Or would i need to uninstall current driver which is NVIDIA
GeForce DDR in Display adapters.

 
Paul said:
You should be looking at the photos on playtool.com.

A card with two slots cut in the edge connector, is a "universal" card
capable of operating at 1.5 or 3.3 VIO voltage.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/voltageslots.jpg

The way this works, is the AGP slot on the motherboard, has a plastic
"bump" or key, inside the connector. A "universal" video card, with the
two slots cut, can be plugged into a motherboard with a "bump" in
either location, and the card will seat. The "key and slot" system
is for preventing the mixing of incompatible voltage devices.

Your previous video card may have been a 1.5V-only video card. The new
card
supports 1.5V or 3.3V, so should plug in and fit into the slot. If it does
not fit, come back and ask for help here, rather than taking a chance.
Don't force a card that doesn't want to go in the slot.

These are the playtool.com entries for the hardware you're talking about.
Consult the "Practical Motherboard And Card Compatibility" table, to see
that these can be safely mixed (any of the options shown here will work).

SiS735 Universal AGP Motherboard

NVIDIA GeForce 6200 Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card or Universal AGP 3.0 Card
(A card with "two slots cut" is the latter one.)

There are a limited number of older video cards in circulation, where the
slot is cut in the wrong place, for the kind of card. Generally speaking,
those are the only cards to be very careful with, if changing video cards,
because they can be plugged into the wrong kind of motherboard and ruin
it.
Cards manufactured in the last 5-8 years should be reasonably safe,
as the companies eventually figured out what they were supposed to be
doing.

HTH,
Click to expand...

Paul you are correct it only has one connector being 15pin D sub so it
must be the 1.5v. On reading spec on some adverts for 6200 no mention of the
D sub connector, they quote DVI. I no the 6200 has other outlet like TV
which I'm not bothered about.
Also they are quoting DDR SDRAM is this on the chips as I run SDRAM as
quoted earlier.
That Playtool is some site.
Roger
 
Roger said:
Paul you are correct it only has one connector being 15pin D sub so it
must be the 1.5v. On reading spec on some adverts for 6200 no mention of the
D sub connector, they quote DVI. I no the 6200 has other outlet like TV
which I'm not bothered about.
Also they are quoting DDR SDRAM is this on the chips as I run SDRAM as
quoted earlier.
That Playtool is some site.
Roger
Click to expand...

When they reference memory type in a video card advertisement, it is the
type of memory chips soldered to the video card. It means your 6200 comes
with DDR memory chips, soldered right on the video card. They are a
memory used to hold the frame buffer and 3D textures and the like.

The main memory on your computer plugged into the motherboard, is completely
independent of the memory on the video card. You could mix video card GDDR5
memory with a motherboard with SDRAM if you wanted. The RAMs are separated
by a lot of other digital logic, which is why they have no relationship
to one another.

Where the video card memory type matters, is in things like how hot
they get, how much bandwidth the video card might get from them and
so on. For at least some kinds of video cards, buyers select cards
with one kind of RAM and not another, because their games play
faster with one choice than the other. So the RAM type is sometimes
used as a quality metric. In your case, you just want a video card
for office use, so the RAM type hardly matters at all. And it is a
6200, which would not be the first choice of a gamer in any case.

*******

With regard to the faceplate of the card, it can come with a variety
of connectors for monitors or television sets on it. Your job as the
buyer, is to make sure there is the proper connector for your monitor.
The faceplate has room for three connectors, and at least one of
them (using an adapter or not), should connect to your monitor.

If you're unsure about what you're buying, post a URL to the web page
with the product on it, for analysis.

Paul
 
Paul said:
When they reference memory type in a video card advertisement, it is the
type of memory chips soldered to the video card. It means your 6200 comes
with DDR memory chips, soldered right on the video card. They are a
memory used to hold the frame buffer and 3D textures and the like.

The main memory on your computer plugged into the motherboard, is
completely
independent of the memory on the video card. You could mix video card
GDDR5
memory with a motherboard with SDRAM if you wanted. The RAMs are separated
by a lot of other digital logic, which is why they have no relationship
to one another.

Where the video card memory type matters, is in things like how hot
they get, how much bandwidth the video card might get from them and
so on. For at least some kinds of video cards, buyers select cards
with one kind of RAM and not another, because their games play
faster with one choice than the other. So the RAM type is sometimes
used as a quality metric. In your case, you just want a video card
for office use, so the RAM type hardly matters at all. And it is a
6200, which would not be the first choice of a gamer in any case.

*******

With regard to the faceplate of the card, it can come with a variety
of connectors for monitors or television sets on it. Your job as the
buyer, is to make sure there is the proper connector for your monitor.
The faceplate has room for three connectors, and at least one of
them (using an adapter or not), should connect to your monitor.

If you're unsure about what you're buying, post a URL to the web page
with the product on it, for analysis.

Paul
Click to expand...

Well look at the three units also use the zoom on pictures. These are just a
thought, unless I come across similar second-hand. These appear to show a D
sub. But some on for example uk EBay showing different connector.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-GF6225
 
Roger said:
Well look at the three units also use the zoom on pictures. These are just a
thought, unless I come across similar second-hand. These appear to show a D
sub. But some on for example uk EBay showing different connector.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-GF6225
Click to expand...

http://images.novatech.co.uk/si-nov-gf6225.jpg

In that example, the top connector is "mini-DIN", which is where an S-video
or Composite TV connection would come from. For S-video, there are cables with
four pin mini-DIN connectors on either end, for carrying the TV signals.
For composite, an adapter converts the DIN signals carrying the S-Video,
into a composite signal (carrying both luma and chroma).

The middle connector is DVI. DVI is a digital means of driving a monitor, which
means the content is preserved in a lossless manner, over the monitor cable.
With DVI digital, you shouldn't see any ghosting of the signals, while
with VGA, the quality of the cable is more apparent in the image you see.

The DVI connector actually carries two sets of signals, one digital set and
a second analog set. If you connect a passive dongle plug (no silicon chip
inside it, just wires), it will present the analog set of wires as a VGA
connector. The so-called "DVI-I" connector is adaptable to VGA with the
right passive dongle.

(A DVI-I to VGA adapter)

http://media.uxcell.com/uxcell/images/item/catalog/ux_a08052000ux0010_ux_c.jpg

For more info on DVI, you can learn about it here. These articles aren't
always the best (some are full of jargon), but at least there are
lots of articles to choose from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

The DVI digital signals are something you'd find on most LCDs at the store
now. So the middle connector in the picture, would be good if you picked up
a new monitor.

The bottom connector is a 15 pin VGA (the one in blue colored insulation).
It is used on older monitors. There is only one set of signals on there,
unlike the DVI that can carry two different sets (of which you use only one
of the sets of signals). At extremely high resolution, the image carried by
the DVI method, will look better than the VGA. At lower resolutions, and
with decent cables (not crushed or broken), the images will look the same.

On the back of this monitor, you can see a DVI connector on the left, and a
VGA one on the right. Some monitors have more than one input, and you can switch
between them. If your monitor has only one of the connector types, then it is more
important to get a video card with the same connector on it.

http://img.tomshardware.com/uk/2006/07/06/wide_format_lcd_monitors/asus_pw191_5.jpg

Paul
 
Paul said:
http://images.novatech.co.uk/si-nov-gf6225.jpg

In that example, the top connector is "mini-DIN", which is where an
S-video
or Composite TV connection would come from. For S-video, there are cables
with
four pin mini-DIN connectors on either end, for carrying the TV signals.
For composite, an adapter converts the DIN signals carrying the S-Video,
into a composite signal (carrying both luma and chroma).

The middle connector is DVI. DVI is a digital means of driving a monitor,
which
means the content is preserved in a lossless manner, over the monitor
cable.
With DVI digital, you shouldn't see any ghosting of the signals, while
with VGA, the quality of the cable is more apparent in the image you see.

The DVI connector actually carries two sets of signals, one digital set
and
a second analog set. If you connect a passive dongle plug (no silicon chip
inside it, just wires), it will present the analog set of wires as a VGA
connector. The so-called "DVI-I" connector is adaptable to VGA with the
right passive dongle.

(A DVI-I to VGA adapter)

http://media.uxcell.com/uxcell/images/item/catalog/ux_a08052000ux0010_ux_c.jpg

For more info on DVI, you can learn about it here. These articles aren't
always the best (some are full of jargon), but at least there are
lots of articles to choose from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

The DVI digital signals are something you'd find on most LCDs at the store
now. So the middle connector in the picture, would be good if you picked
up
a new monitor.

The bottom connector is a 15 pin VGA (the one in blue colored insulation).
It is used on older monitors. There is only one set of signals on there,
unlike the DVI that can carry two different sets (of which you use only
one
of the sets of signals). At extremely high resolution, the image carried
by
the DVI method, will look better than the VGA. At lower resolutions, and
with decent cables (not crushed or broken), the images will look the same.

On the back of this monitor, you can see a DVI connector on the left, and
a
VGA one on the right. Some monitors have more than one input, and you can
switch
between them. If your monitor has only one of the connector types, then it
is more
important to get a video card with the same connector on it.

http://img.tomshardware.com/uk/2006/07/06/wide_format_lcd_monitors/asus_pw191_5.jpg
Click to expand...
Paul thanks for all that,yes my LG 19" Flatron l1919s has only one rear
connector being the 15pin VGA. It is 3years old this March.
Well it looks as though I best go for that 6200 I showed you, as that has a
15pin VGA connector and it will suit my Home office work no heavy demands of
gaming.
And if I have to change monitor in future, as you have shown, card has the
upgrade connector on. Keep fingers crossed for rest of system to keep going.
Roger
 
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