Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh)

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Harry Simpson

Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi to
take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 and it
creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong factory
or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a VB
project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to consume the
classes.
 
Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and wondered
why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs within the
solution. I'll continue to try to find some better documentation to
enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry
 
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never felt
compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF (Wiggley, Foot
and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and I don't
feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).
 
LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....
 
The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


Harry Simpson said:
LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF (Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Harry Simpson said:
Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any MVPs
still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto language now?
Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

Simon Hart said:
The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


Harry Simpson said:
LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book
in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and
I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to
a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs (in
the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. Most of us
can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what we use.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Harry Simpson said:
Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any MVPs
still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto language now?
Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

Simon Hart said:
The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


Harry Simpson said:
LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book
in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've
never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and
I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in
a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files
to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the
wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in C#,
you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be
somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code),
and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other
situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really program
effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things with the
..NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C, declarations at
least, to get anything done, for example...

Paul T.

Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs (in
the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. Most of
us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what we use.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Harry Simpson said:
Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any
MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto
language now? Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

Simon Hart said:
The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


:

LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book
in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've
never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB
(and I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in
a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files
to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the
wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain around
a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used to -
makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed
out, most have jumped to C#.

Thanks
Harry

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:%[email protected]...
And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in
C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be
somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code),
and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other
situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really
program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things
with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C,
declarations at least, to get anything done, for example...

Paul T.

Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs
(in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like.
Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what
we use.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Harry Simpson said:
Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any
MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto
language now? Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


:

LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the
book in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've
never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB
(and I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project
in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files
to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the
wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
It seems the industry is moving to C#, not sure why this is but it is
happening. We are hiring at the moment and every CV (resume) that lands on my
desk contains C# and in some cases C# and VB.NET. So this tells me, many
folks are including C# whether they are strong with it or not. Unless of
course they generally are good with both.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


Harry Simpson said:
I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain around
a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used to -
makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed
out, most have jumped to C#.

Thanks
Harry

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:%[email protected]...
And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in
C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be
somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code),
and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other
situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really
program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things
with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C,
declarations at least, to get anything done, for example...

Paul T.

Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs
(in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like.
Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what
we use.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any
MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto
language now? Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


:

LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the
book in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've
never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB
(and I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project
in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files
to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the
wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits?

TIA
Harry
 
Simon,

I think this may be more the case on the mobile side than the desktop. But
as Chris says, the reason most of us use C# is that's what we know best.

--
Ginny Caughey
Device Application Development MVP


Simon Hart said:
It seems the industry is moving to C#, not sure why this is but it is
happening. We are hiring at the moment and every CV (resume) that lands on
my
desk contains C# and in some cases C# and VB.NET. So this tells me, many
folks are including C# whether they are strong with it or not. Unless of
course they generally are good with both.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


Harry Simpson said:
I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain
around
a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used
to -
makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed
out, most have jumped to C#.

Thanks
Harry

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam
DOT
com> wrote in message news:%[email protected]...
And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's
in
C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to
be
somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe
code),
and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any
other
situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really
program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many
things
with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C,
declarations at least, to get anything done, for example...

Paul T.

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs
(in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like.
Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's
what
we use.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any
MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto
language now? Did I miss the memo?

Thanks
Harry

The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source
and
demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector.
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


:

LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the
book in
front of me so save your steps.
Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable
C#
project
creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now.....

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've
never
felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF
(Wiggley,
Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB
(and I
don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now -
sorry).


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com


Thanks Chris,

I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory
and
wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the
C#
DLLs
within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better
documentation to enlighten myself with.
I opened the new project
|--Guidance Packages-
|------Mobile Client Software-
|----------Factory CAB Application
|------Guidance Package Development-
|----------Guidance Package

Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile
Application
project or is it only offered for C#?

TIA
Harry




"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C#
project
in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code
files
to a
VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend
to
consume the classes.


--

Chris Tacke, eMVP
Join the Embedded Developer Community
http://community.opennetcf.com



Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006
(refresh).msi
to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application
in
VS2005
and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance
package
also
is all C#.

While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the
wrong
factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these
bits?

TIA
Harry
 
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