Misbehaving thumbs

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If there's a more suitable forum to post this, please someone tell me...I take a digital photo, say of our grand-daughter; put it in the "Family"
sub-folder of the "My Pictures" folder. Later I open it in Photoshop, crop it
(say) and save it under a new name ("Grand-daughter 2") in the same "Family"
sub-folder. I open the sub-folder, selecting to view images as thumbs.
"Grand-daughter 2" is there... but in its original uncropped form!
Double-click - and my viewer (Irfanview) brings it up properly cropped. I put
it into Photo Story 3, but am confused by the fact that not only this image
but all edited images appear in their unedited form. In PS3 preview, and when
it becomes part of a .wmv file or a generated video, the edited image
appears, so the fault isn't fatal... but very annoying. And WHY - suddenly?
Only me, or have others had this happen?
(Oh, yes, and I've tried putting the edited image into a different
sub-folder. And tried a System Restore.)
 
Jeremy said:
If there's a more suitable forum to post this, please
someone tell me...
I take a digital photo, say of our grand-daughter; put it
in the "Family" sub-folder of the "My Pictures" folder.
Later I open it in Photoshop, crop it (say) and save it
under a new name ("Grand-daughter 2") in the same
"Family" sub-folder. I open the sub-folder, selecting
to view images as thumbs. "Grand-daughter 2" is there...
but in its original uncropped form! Double-click - and my
viewer (Irfanview) brings it up properly cropped. I put
it into Photo Story 3, but am confused by the fact that
not only this image but all edited images appear in their
unedited form. In PS3 preview, and when it becomes part
of a .wmv file or a generated video, the edited image
appears, so the fault isn't fatal... but very annoying.
And WHY - suddenly? Only me, or have others had this
happen? (Oh, yes, and I've tried putting the edited
image into a different sub-folder. And tried a System
Restore.)
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Maybe the following links will be useful:

(813711) Your view settings or customizations
for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813711

You can download TweakUI from the following site.
It has an option to increase Folder Customizations

Windows XP PowerToys / free download
http://tinyurl.com/36n

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I am only a volunteer.....

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you.

Proceed at your own risk.

John Inzer
Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
 
I've downloaded Tweak Ui but can't get it to run, maybe I haven't got the
right Power Pack or something,m I'll try again later today. Now I'm working
on my view settings. Thanks for suggestions. I'll let you know results
tomorrow!
 
I meant "Service Pack", sorry!
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Jeremy Fisher


Jeremy Fisher said:
I've downloaded Tweak Ui but can't get it to run, maybe I haven't got the
right Power Pack or something,m I'll try again later today. Now I'm working
on my view settings. Thanks for suggestions. I'll let you know results
tomorrow!
Click to expand...
 
Jeremy said:
I've downloaded Tweak Ui but can't get it to run, maybe
I haven't got the right Power Pack or something,m I'll
try again later today. Now I'm working on my view
settings. Thanks for suggestions. I'll let you know
results tomorrow!
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Ok...let us know the result.

BTW...unless you are running
Windows XP 64-Bit Edition...
you do not need the Itanium
version of TweakUI.

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*Notice*
This is not tech support.
I am only a volunteer.....

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you.

Proceed at your own risk.

John Inzer
Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
 
Right, I've found time today. I still can't run the Tweak programme, maybe
it's running in the background. I downloaded the latest Service Pack but
found I didn't need it , having already got Service Pack 1, so that wasn't
the trouble with Tweak. Then I read the Microsoft page again and realised
that what I need to do involves editing the register... Well, I'm grateful
for your confidence in me, but I'm scared of touching regedit! Thanks again,
John, I'm saving your suggestions until my son visits and he can take the job
on! Meantime I'll just remember when I move thumbs around in PS3, to check
that they still represent the true state of the image file!
Regards,
 
Jeremy Fisher said:
If there's a more suitable forum to post this, please someone tell me...
I take a digital photo, say of our grand-daughter; put it in the "Family"
sub-folder of the "My Pictures" folder. Later I open it in Photoshop, crop it
(say) and save it under a new name ("Grand-daughter 2") in the same "Family"
sub-folder. I open the sub-folder, selecting to view images as thumbs.
"Grand-daughter 2" is there... but in its original uncropped form!
Double-click - and my viewer (Irfanview) brings it up properly cropped. I put
it into Photo Story 3, but am confused by the fact that not only this image
but all edited images appear in their unedited form. In PS3 preview, and when
it becomes part of a .wmv file or a generated video, the edited image
appears, so the fault isn't fatal... but very annoying. And WHY - suddenly?
Only me, or have others had this happen?
(Oh, yes, and I've tried putting the edited image into a different
sub-folder. And tried a System Restore.)
Click to expand...

Try saving your new photo with, save original as (new name). This should
cure your problem.
Clifford Evans.
 
Jeremy said:
Right, I've found time today. I still can't run the Tweak
programme, maybe it's running in the background. I
downloaded the latest Service Pack but found I didn't
need it , having already got Service Pack 1, so that
wasn't the trouble with Tweak. Then I read the Microsoft
page again and realised that what I need to do involves
editing the register... Well, I'm grateful for your
confidence in me, but I'm scared of touching regedit!
Thanks again, John, I'm saving your suggestions until my
son visits and he can take the job on! Meantime I'll just
remember when I move thumbs around in PS3, to check that
they still represent the true state of the image file!
Regards,
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Did you download the correct version of TweakUI?
Unless you're running Windows XP 64-Bit Edition...
you do not need the Itanium version of TweakUI.

No, TweakUI would not be running unless you launched it.

What happens when you go to...Start / All Programs /
Powertoys for Windows XP / TweakUI?

If you use TweakUI...you will not have to edit the
registry.

--

*Notice*
This is not tech support.
I am only a volunteer.....

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you.

Proceed at your own risk.

John Inzer
Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
 
Hello, again, John! I'm putting my imprimatur of Helpful on your kind
suggestions, because they've encouraged me to experiment a bit and I've found
something that works, though I don't know why. To answer your question about
"New Programmes...", well Tweak's up there, and I click and double-click on
it and nothing at all happens. But anyway, I went back to my image folders,
selected an edited image at random, right-clicked and on the drop-down menu
went for "Refresh Thumbnail." It worked instantly! I don't know why, or if
Tweak's had anything to do with it, and it looks as if I'll have to remember
to use this refresher option every time I've finished editing an image...
but I can live with that until someone techy like my son comes round.
Thanks for your interest and help thus far, John!
(Yes, I downloaded the right Tweak for my OS!)
Jeremy Fisher
 
Jeremy said:
Hello, again, John! I'm putting my imprimatur of Helpful
on your kind suggestions, because they've encouraged me
to experiment a bit and I've found something that works,
though I don't know why. To answer your question about
"New Programmes...", well Tweak's up there, and I click
and double-click on it and nothing at all happens. But
anyway, I went back to my image folders, selected an
edited image at random, right-clicked and on the
drop-down menu went for "Refresh Thumbnail." It worked
instantly! I don't know why, or if Tweak's had anything
to do with it, and it looks as if I'll have to remember
to use this refresher option every time I've finished
editing an image... but I can live with that until
someone techy like my son comes round.
Thanks for your interest and help thus far, John!
(Yes, I downloaded the right Tweak for my OS!)
Jeremy Fisher
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Thanks for the update.

--

*Notice*
This is not tech support.
I am only a volunteer.....

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you.

Proceed at your own risk.

John Inzer
Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
 
Thanks for your suggestion, Clifford. I don't in Photoshop have an option to
"Save original as (new name)". I can crop and then save original with same
name but replacing the original image, or I can save a copy of original as
cropped, and these both work in the thumbnail. Also, see my answer to John
Inzer, above. One way or another I seem to have got round this irritating
problem, though without having got to the root of the matter.
Regards,
 
In case this helps anyone else, and to thank the people who gave me advice,
this is now the situation: Since finding I could get the thumb accurately to
represent the newly edited image by right-clicking on the thumb itself, in
its folder, and selecting "refresh thumb"- I've gone on to find that ALL my
thumbs which had been showing the image in its original form have now
suddenly behaved! Without my even having to select "Refresh thumb". One huge
oddity: when I was getting this problem in My Pictures and its sub-folders, I
did go to Irfanview and tried opening an edited thumb in there - and it was
perfect. BUT Irfanview gives you a hierarchy, where you climb down to "My
Pictures" and sub-folders - and surely this heierachy and its folders, and
their content, are absolutely identical with the ones I get to via "My
Computer" or a short-cut?
Anyway, living and learning, thanks all.


Jeremy Fisher
 
One more update. I did a search for "thumbnails" in another XP forum and
found that someone whose thumbnails were coming up minus their names was told
"Remember to hold the shift key down when you go from icons to thumbnails..."
I'd had the same problem in one of my folders, and this solved it. But I
don't see how any newbie would ever find his way to that answer on his own -
it's nowhere in Help and Support! So bless the forums (or fora) and experts
like yourself!
P.S. I've also just managed, with help from a forum thread, and an MVP's
posting, to get my System Restore FULLY functioning again.
 
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