Minolta dual scan IV vs 5400 ?

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Hello,

If we exclude the resolution that seems for me more theoric than
realistic, and if we exclude the ICE, is the image provides by a dual
scan IV as sharp and coloured than from a 5400. My main concern is the
Dmax. Does someone has already compared thos 2 scanners. Please don't
tell me we cannot compare because of the price etcaetera...


Regards
 
dia59 said:
Hello,

If we exclude the resolution that seems for me more theoric than
realistic, and if we exclude the ICE, is the image provides by a dual
scan IV as sharp and coloured than from a 5400. My main concern is
the
Dmax. Does someone has already compared thos 2 scanners. Please don't
tell me we cannot compare because of the price etcaetera...


Regards
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I used to own a SD IV and used it both on BW and colour negatives.
The scans were just fine: I couldn't see how to improve on them.

Because I have lots of very old negatives to scan with lots of
scratches, I sold my SD IV and bought a SE 5400. I am pleased no end
with the scratch and dust removal features of ICE. The larger
resolution is somewhat of a bother - I have to choose between 5400
and 2700. The first giving me 225 MB files, and the handling in
Photoshop is slow on my system. But it works. I see no difference
compared to what the SD IV produced with regard to colour and
contrast. But I have no objective data to show, no measurements.

I scan my negatives as positives, using (I believe) the workflow Bart
van der Wolf described here, and it works a treat.

Sharpness was/is fine with both scanners - I see no problems there.
So if you don't have any use for ICE, you could be happy with the SD
IV.

Regards, Alex
alexUNDERSCOREstolsATxs4allDOTnl
 
Alex said:
dia59 <[email protected]> wrote:
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snip

I have to choose between 5400
and 2700.
snip


Regards, Alex
alexUNDERSCOREstolsATxs4allDOTnl
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You can choose other resolutions, in various ways. My preference is to
scan at 5400ppi within Minolta Scan Utility, output 16bit linear. I
then use this a Vuescan Raw File for scan-from-disk. Doing this you can
set custom output size. The setting for this is on the "input" tab,
when you are doing scan-from-disk.

You need to ensure the dpi setting of the 16bit linear is at 5400, to
make this work in a straight forward way, within Vuescan. This dpi
setting (not ppi, I'm scanning at full res) cannot be set directly in
MSU, the ceiling is 4000. You can either set it to 5400 aftwerwords, in
Photoshop, or whatever, or locate and edit the MSU file setting. I did
the latter.

Less run around, if you like, just downsample with Photoshop, to
whatever you want.

FWIW, I've elected to stay with full res scans, for my slide scanning
project. The 16bit linears (aka Vuescan Raw files), even with the black
edges cropped, weigh in around 200 megs.

To the original poster, I've uploaded some sample crops of Scan Dual II
(upsampled to match) and Elite 5400. The Dual II is suprising close
(when upsampled), but a little softer. Here is the link:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00AxQF
 
Alex said:
dia59 <[email protected]> wrote:
Click to expand...

snip

I have to choose between 5400
and 2700.
snip


Regards, Alex
alexUNDERSCOREstolsATxs4allDOTnl
Click to expand...


You can choose other resolutions, in various ways. My preference is to
scan at 5400ppi within Minolta Scan Utility, output 16bit linear. I
then use this a Vuescan Raw File for scan-from-disk. Doing this you can
set custom output size. The setting for this is on the "input" tab,
when you are doing scan-from-disk.

You need to ensure the dpi setting of the 16bit linear is at 5400, to
make this work in a straight forward way, within Vuescan. This dpi
setting (not ppi, I'm scanning at full res) cannot be set directly in
MSU, the ceiling is 4000. You can either set it to 5400 aftwerwords, in
Photoshop, or whatever, or locate and edit the MSU file setting. I did
the latter.

In my case, on WinXP system, it was:

C:\Program Files\DiMAGEScan\DS_Elite5400\Job\Custom\Full resolution no
crop.135

And the line to edit was:

<outputRes>300</outputRes>

which I changed to read:

<outputRes>5400</outputRes>


Less run around, if you like, just downsample with Photoshop, to
whatever you want.

FWIW, I've elected to stay with full res scans, for my slide scanning
project. The 16bit linears (aka Vuescan Raw files), even with the black
edges cropped, weigh in around 200 megs.

To the original poster, I've uploaded some sample crops of Scan Dual II
(upsampled to match) and Elite 5400. The Dual II is suprising close
(when upsampled), but a little softer. Here is the link:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00AxQF
 
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