Migrating from Windows 98SE to Vista

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I have several questions.
I have just purchased a new PC with Vista Home Premium. I plan to install
Lotus123 and Word Pro (Millenium Edition 9.5) which I've been using on my old
PC and migrate the files that I've backed up to the new machine. These were
backed up using the backup program that Microsoft provided with 98SE.
Assuming that I can extract and install the backup program on the new system,
is there any problem in doing this? Can that program be extracted? Would
that backup program work on Vista?
I've also backed up my favorites and my address files with this program. I
know Vista is very different but can you give me any guidance as to how I
might transfer these two files so that they would be usable on Vista?
Thanks...
 
sjh said:
I have several questions.
I have just purchased a new PC with Vista Home Premium. I plan to install
Lotus123
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What specific version? It looks as if you'll need to upgrade to Lotus
SmartSuite 9.8 to gain Vista-compatibility.

.... and Word Pro (Millenium Edition 9.5) which I've been using on my old
PC .....
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Again, it looks as if you'll need to upgrade to Lotus SmartSuite 9.8 to
gain Vista-compatibility.


and migrate the files that I've backed up to the new machine. These were
backed up using the backup program that Microsoft provided with 98SE.
Assuming that I can extract and install the backup program on the new system,
is there any problem in doing this?
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Yes. You won't be able to install Win98's backup program on Vista. I
can't even imagine why you'd think it possible; the operating systems
are generations (from a technology point-of-view) apart and radically
different.
Can that program be extracted?
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Doesn't matter.
Would
that backup program work on Vista?
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No. You'll need to extract those files on a Win98 machine before
attempting to transfer them to the new PC.
I've also backed up my favorites and my address files with this program. I
know Vista is very different but can you give me any guidance as to how I
might transfer these two files so that they would be usable on Vista?
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Restore the file from the Win98 backup format, copy them to a CD or
thumb drive, and use that medium to transfer them to the Vista machine.


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Thank you very much for responding to my question. I had the erroneous
impression that the Millenium 9.5 editon of Lotus was the most recent version.
You asked why I would think that the MS98 backup program might work. My
point of reference comes from working with IBM mainframes where program
compatibility was an objective. A program written to work on 360
architecture in the late 1960's could be expected to work twenty year later
even though the hardware architecture went through some number of iterations
during that period. That served the interests of their customer community.
From your comment this obviously has not been the case in the world of PC's.
 
sjh said:
Thank you very much for responding to my question. I had the erroneous
impression that the Millenium 9.5 editon of Lotus was the most recent
version.
You asked why I would think that the MS98 backup program might work. My
point of reference comes from working with IBM mainframes where program
compatibility was an objective. A program written to work on 360
architecture in the late 1960's could be expected to work twenty year
later
even though the hardware architecture went through some number of
iterations
during that period. That served the interests of their customer
community.
From your comment this obviously has not been the case in the world of
PC's.
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No, PC(s) and various versions of the O/S are not the IBM 360/370 O/S(s)
running on a mainframe platform. You have to be very careful what you
install on Vista that is not Vista compliant, because it may crash Vista or
cause other applications that are running on Vista to crash. Vista does have
backwards capability setting to run a program that's is for Win 9'x, XP or
Win 2k, etc, ect, but you have to be careful.

If you must run legacy solutions the you have this option.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

Some other things you may want to look at.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=785
http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5175
http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/

Since you're talking IBM 360 and Windows 9'x, Windows 9'X is a root
privileged O/S and Vista is not, so you may need to be aware of things.

<http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml>
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

Also if the Vista O/S has been preinstalled on the computer by the
manufacture, then the very first thing you should do before you do anything
else is make those Recovery DVD(s), because you don't have an install Vista
DVD, and the only way you can install the O/S is from that Recovery DVD.

One last thing, do you see how I am reply posting to you. That is proper
etiquette in making a reply post to someone, because otherwise, the way
you're doing it, you're posting back to your original post and no marker is
in the post as to whom you are posting to, if you are replying to several
posters in the thread.
 
Mr. Arnold said:
No, PC(s) and various versions of the O/S are not the IBM 360/370 O/S(s)
running on a mainframe platform. You have to be very careful what you
install on Vista that is not Vista compliant, because it may crash Vista
or cause other applications that are running on Vista to crash. Vista does
have backwards capability setting to run a program that's is for Win 9'x,
XP or Win 2k, etc, ect, but you have to be careful.

If you must run legacy solutions the you have this option.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

Some other things you may want to look at.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=785
http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5175
http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/

Since you're talking IBM 360 and Windows 9'x, Windows 9'X is a root
privileged O/S and Vista is not, so you may need to be aware of things.

<http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml>
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

Also if the Vista O/S has been preinstalled on the computer by the
manufacture, then the very first thing you should do before you do
anything else is make those Recovery DVD(s), because you don't have an
install Vista DVD, and the only way you can install the O/S is from that
Recovery DVD.

One last thing, do you see how I am reply posting to you. That is proper
etiquette in making a reply post to someone, because otherwise, the way
you're doing it, you're posting back to your original post and no marker
is in the post as to whom you are posting to, if you are replying to
several posters in the thread.
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It would have been quicker to state that no version of Windows Backup has
ever been compatible with an earlier version..

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Mike Hall - MVP said:
It would have been quicker to state that no version of Windows Backup has
ever been compatible with an earlier version..
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He needs to know that other stuff too and not go into Vista blind. :)
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:52 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
He needs to know that other stuff too and not go into Vista blind. :)
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You need to control your verbosity.
 
Paul Montgomery said:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:18:52 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.


You need to control your verbosity.
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I see I am going to have to killfile you, because there seems to be
something wrong with you when you will start following some around like
this. Do you see me in your face. You mean nothing to me.

*plonk*
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:34:13 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
I see I am going to have to killfile you, because there seems to be
something wrong with you when you will start following some around like
this. Do you see me in your face. You mean nothing to me.
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Was it something I said?? <smirk>
 
I see I am going to have to killfile you, because there seems to be
something wrong with you when you will start following some around like
this. Do you see me in your face. You mean nothing to me.

*plonk*
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Nice try "Mr Arnold". You LOVE reading my posts. Of course you have
to use different IDs every day to keep yourself visible to those who
have killfiled you:

MISTER "Arnold":
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.197.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.xxx
and more 4.224.57.xxx

Little Mad Dog:
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.48.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.48
and more 4.224.57.xxx

The Lone Ranger:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.224.57.214
and more 4.224.57.xxx

The Lone Ranger1:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.224.57.167
and more 4.224.57.xxx

Junk Yard Dog:
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.129.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.xxx
and more 4.224.57.xxx

Not to mention times when you used my name/email address and
variations of both.
 
Nice try "Mr Arnold".  You LOVE reading my posts.  Of course you have
to use different IDs every day to keep yourself visible to those who
have killfiled you:

MISTER "Arnold":
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.197.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.xxx
  and more 4.224.57.xxx

Little Mad Dog:
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.48.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.48
  and more 4.224.57.xxx

The Lone Ranger:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.224.57.214
  and more 4.224.57.xxx

The Lone Ranger1:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.224.57.167
   and more 4.224.57.xxx

Junk Yard Dog:
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.224.57.129.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net
4.224.57.xxx
   and more 4.224.57.xxx

Not to mention times when you used my name/email address and
variations of both.
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In particular:

Paul Montgomery (along with my actual email address)
General Paul Montgomery
General Paul Montgomery1
General Paul Montgomery2
General Paul Montgomery3
General Paul Montgomery4
General Paul Montgomery5
General Paul Montgomery6
General Paul Montgomery7
Paul Montgomery 9000
 
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