Microsoft Security Essentials

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Since Ubuntu Linux has apparently went the way of releasing buggy-as-hell
software, I reluctantly installed Windows 7 on my PC. Much to my surprise, I
find that Microsoft has released a free AV for Windows users.

The Microsoft Security Essentials seems to work rather well from what I have
read, and from a personal opinion the interface is simple and functional.

Anyone else using this product?
 
Bill said:
Since Ubuntu Linux has apparently went the way of releasing
buggy-as-hell software, I reluctantly installed Windows 7 on my PC. Much
to my surprise, I find that Microsoft has released a free AV for Windows
users.
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Do you feel that Windows 7 is less buggy than Ubuntu Linux?
The Microsoft Security Essentials seems to work rather well from what I
have read, and from a personal opinion the interface is simple and
functional.

Anyone else using this product?
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I read this somewhere...:
"Would you trust a security application written by the people who wrote
the operating system that needs it?"
 
Beauregard T. said:
I read this somewhere...:
"Would you trust a security application written by the people who wrote
the operating system that needs it?"
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It's free, it works and let's face it. You have to be pretty much a nimrod to
get your PC infected anyway.
 
Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
Do you feel that Windows 7 is less buggy than Ubuntu Linux?


I read this somewhere...:
"Would you trust a security application written by the people who
wrote
the operating system that needs it?"
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It's cute, but doesn't really make sense.
 
It's cute, but doesn't really make sense.
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Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but
fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this
time?

Regards, Dave Hodgins
 
David said:
Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but
fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this
time?

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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So you're suggesting that people don't learn from past activities,
and seek to correct and improve their efforts?
Isn't that sort of what RaiD claims to have done?
 
So you're suggesting that people don't learn from past activities,
and seek to correct and improve their efforts?
Isn't that sort of what RaiD claims to have done?
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I'm saying that some people don't, not all. In the case of m$, they
have a long history of not showing any change in their ability to
develop and maintain secure software.

In Dustin's case, he's demonstrated the change by his behavior.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
 
Since Ubuntu Linux has apparently went the way of releasing buggy-as-hell
software, I reluctantly installed Windows 7 on my PC. Much to my surprise, I
find that Microsoft has released a free AV for Windows users.
Click to expand...

One man's meat is another man's poison...yada..yada..yada.

If Ubuntu is too buggy for you, then you either have hardware
conflicts or you're doing it wrong.

GrtArtiste
 
David W. Hodgins said:
Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but
fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this
time?
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That makes more sense.

My objection to the previous was that an OS is designed to facillitate
the execution of programs of the operator's choice to do what the
operator wants. The security programs almost always work to limit that -
protecting the operator from executing "bad code" or limiting what said
code has access to. Not all malware is written to exploit software
flaws, they're just programs that the operator shouldn't have executed.
The statement seems to imply that the malware *depends* on the
insecurity of the OS and it is foolish to trust someone who can't design
a secure OS to begin with to decide what programs you should and should
not execute.

It reminds me of the phrase "Is it warmer in the summer than it is in
the city?".
 
From: "David W. Hodgins" <[email protected]>


| Do you remember MSAV? Microsoft purchases an anti-virus program, but
| fails to maintain it. Why would anyone expect anything different this
| time?

| Regards, Dave Hodgins

MSAV was an OEM of Central Point Anti Virus (CPAV). Central Point Software was bought by
Peter Norton and was eventually integrated into Norton AV before being acquired by
Symantec.

MSE (and it predecessor Live OneCare) Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT) and
Windows Defender are based upon the orginal kernel (mpengine.dll) of GeCAD's RAV (but use
different signature bases).

The Microsoft anti malware product manager told me "Of course it's not exactly the GeCAD
RAV engine any longer - the code has evolved a bit since 2003!"
 
One man's meat is another man's poison...yada..yada..yada.

If Ubuntu is too buggy for you, then you either have hardware
conflicts or you're doing it wrong.

GrtArtiste
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Previous versions were ok, but the latest release sucks. If that's the direction
they're going with it, I'll get off the bus now.
 
The Microsoft Security Essentials seems to work rather well from what I have
read, and from a personal opinion the interface is simple and functional.

Anyone else using this product?
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It requires activation. Still using Avira Personal.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
I read this somewhere...:
"Would you trust a security application written by the people who wrote
the operating system that needs it?"
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I said this somewhere...

"You have to believe that Microsoft will get this right because since they're
releasing their own security software, their entire reputation as a company is
on the line now. Not so when they relied on 3rd parties to provide
protection. Now there's nobody to blame."
 
David W. Hodgins said:
I'm saying that some people don't, not all. In the case of m$, they
have a long history of not showing any change in their ability to
develop and maintain secure software.
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Given Adobe's failure to patch its software and Apple's refusal to use it in
their machines, I'd say that MS is miles ahead of Adobe. Also, nobody's
mentioning that Apple has security issues, but they keep it covered up. Apple
issues patches all the time.
 
GrtArtiste said:
If Ubuntu is too buggy for you, then you either have hardware
conflicts or you're doing it wrong.
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Ubuntu is simply not ready for prime time. I doubt it or any other free-range
OS ever will be. There simply isn't the tech support necessary to fix it all.
 
David said:
Ubuntu is simply not ready for prime time. I doubt it or any other free-range
OS ever will be. There simply isn't the tech support necessary to fix it all.
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I installed it in a spare partition a while back. I'm a little tired of
all the hype. Ubuntu works well enough for internet use but most (not
all) of the apps lack the polish of their windows equivalent where they
exist and it updates virtually every time I bring it up. I have no
problems with winxp and windows 7 works very well. My main complaint
with windows is some software and my scanner cease working when updating
from winxp to windows 7, but Linux isn't much help here also.
For all you people out there, use whatever suits your purpose, but cease
and desist trying to sell your pet preferences to the whole world,
nobody is paying you to do so and nobody cares.
 
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