Microsoft Security Essentials - Ars Technica review

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badgolferman said:
Well, they like it.

I wonder what anti-malware Microsoft Corporation itself uses in Redmond.

Microsoft personnel have been said to recommend MBAM.
 
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Paul Jones


Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
http://community.winsupersite.com/b.../19/microsoft-security-essentials-update.aspx

"Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million downloads
in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep going up:
After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million. Also, the
company tells me that Microsoft Security Essentials has achieved ICSA
Labs Anti-Virus Certification on Vista Ultimate 32-bit and Vista
Ultimate 64-bit in the Desktop/Server AV Detection & Cleaning Testing
criteria. This certification builds on its October certification from
West Coast Labs."
 
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Dustin Cook

I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't
have gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of
the machines I put it on.
MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core
machine with a fast processor and plenty of memory.

Oh.. I've gotta save this for my quotes. Tolerable on a quad.. I love it.
:)
 
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responder

Lil' Abner said:
I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't have
gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of the machines
I put it on.
MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core machine
with a fast processor and plenty of memory.

I join in your assessment.

Bogs everything down...besides, with AVG..MBAM...ThreatFire and more,
this is overkill..
 
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Paul Jones

I join in your assessment.

Bogs everything down...besides, with AVG..MBAM...ThreatFire and more,
this is overkill..

Shame it does not work for the two of you.

IMO it is better than all of the above as it uses far less system
resources. Avast and MBAM are still both on my system but real-time
protection has been disabled for the two of them and my PC has never
been better.
Not sure why you think it would be "overkill".

I have installed it on several systems with different hardware
configurations now (over 30 PCs in 5 different locations) and all work
flawlessly.
These PCs were all built and the OS installed by myself so I know there
is no other software installed that could cause issues with MSE.
Looking at various newsgroups where there have been issues reported with
MsMpEng.exe, the cause has always been found to be some other process
causing the issue.

This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.
The only thing that will cause its uptake to be slowed down is the
bundling of inferior products on new PCs. Something done by system
manufacturers to increase profits.
 
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David W. Hodgins

This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.

I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
 
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Beckett

What process(es)? Every machine I've put it on I've made sure all
instances of any other antivirus or antispyware applications have been
uninstalled. I too have been to a lot of the forums and read a lot of the
discussions. I would really like to see it work. If they get it fixed or
at least make it more clear how to avoid the "bogging down" effect, I
will be happy to start installing it again.

I wouldn't listen to him, I beleive he is the same person who attacked
my computer skills credibility when I complained about the same issue
with MSSE a little while back. I said it was ok on my multi-core PC
but on my single core PC it was killing performance and was viciously
attacked for it.
 
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Paul Jones

I wouldn't listen to him, I beleive he is the same person who attacked
my computer skills credibility when I complained about the same issue
with MSSE a little while back. I said it was ok on my multi-core PC
but on my single core PC it was killing performance and was viciously
attacked for it.

What? Please provide evidence of this vicious attack.
 
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Paul Jones

What? Please provide evidence of this vicious attack.

Do you like to change names?
Are you Antonio López de Santa Anna?

If yes, you were the one who was rude and obnoxious.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "David W. Hodgins" <[email protected]>


| I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

| Regards, Dave Hodgins

MSAV -- OEM of CPAV bought by Norton.

Passing fad for Win3.1x at best.
 
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Beckett

Do you like to change names?
Are you Antonio López de Santa Anna?

If yes, you were the one who was rude and obnoxious.

Ah yes, it was most definitely you. Do you work for Microsoft?
 
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FromTheRafters

David H. Lipman said:
From: "David W. Hodgins" <[email protected]>

| On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:18 -0400, Paul Jones


| I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

| Regards, Dave Hodgins

MSAV -- OEM of CPAV bought by Norton.

Passing fad for Win3.1x at best.

By then we had MWAV to protect us. :blush:)

....can't have those nasty viruses messing with Leisure Suit Larry.
 
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Beckett

Do you like to change names?
Are you Antonio López de Santa Anna?

If yes, you were the one who was rude and obnoxious.

BTW, looks like you were the dweeb ****stick now that we have other
experienced people confirming what I claimed all along. Where's your
apology, ****stick?
 
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Paul Jones

Ah yes, it was most definitely you. Do you work for Microsoft?

Like I said, "Please provide evidence of this vicious attack."

Shall I:
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Me:
On my Win7 32-bit I see not heavy CPU (Intel dual core) usage at all.
Opening any folder sees explorer.exe jump up by 5-10% cpu usage for a
split second and then back down again. Certainly less cpu usage than
Avast and MBAM.

You:
"This is on 2 different computers that I tested it so are you saying
both my computers are equally ****ed? I don't think so."

Me:
I am not saying anything about your computers.
Unless of course, as two computers is a very small test sample, both
your computers are, as you so eloquently put it, "****ed".

You:
Yea, the usual argument of an idiot

Me:
Don't be so hard on yourself as I was not blaming the hardware or OS
config.
You really are a bit slow on the uptake aren't you?
It was not my intention to apportion blame anywhere. But looking back,
maybe the operator, being a complete and utter moron, must take the
credit. In case you still don't get the point, that is YOU!

You:
You have no point except to try and contradict me so **** off wanker.

Me:
Such bad language. Not very good in a debate are you?

You:
I've been using computers since 1989. That's probably at least 20
years longer than you, numbnuts.
 
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Paul Jones

BTW, looks like you were the dweeb ****stick now that we have other
experienced people confirming what I claimed all along. Where's your
apology, ****stick?

Wow, the only thing that makes any sense in that sentence is the
profanity. English is not your first language?
Now go away and come back with you next name change.
 
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Paul Jones

I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

Time will tell but take up so far tells a different story.
Luckily for the other anti-malware developers MS are not going to bundle
it with the OS or offer any incentives for OEMs to bundle it with PCs.
They should still expect their sales to reduce though as the MSE has no
'pay' version. You get real-time scanning for free and likely as
features are added they will be available to all for free (no Pro
versions etc).
 
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Joe Moore

Paul Jones said:
Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
http://community.winsupersite.com/b.../19/microsoft-security-essentials-update.aspx

"Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million downloads
in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep going up:
After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million....."

Talk about "spin"!

If the first week saw 1.5 million downloads and the second week saw
1.2 million (2.6 million total after two weeks minus 1.5 million of
those which were downloaded the first week), the numbers are going
DOWN, not UP!

Or does the author believe the fact that the TOTAL is increasing is
really news?


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