Microsoft Publisher 2003 produced website crashes Internet Explore

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I read other posts on this subject. Some blame it on add ons or toolbars,
but my hard drive was formatted and Internet Explorer was just installed with
all updates including SP1.

I just wanted to point out that this is not an uncommon problem, it just
takes months before people realize that it is common and just some glitch on
their own computer, before you hear about it. It happens to everyone using
IE6 trying to access my website www.meyersag.com

The website views perfectly fine with Netscape. I am guessing that it is
some sort of malfunction between Publisher's html and IE6. This is not what
one would expect when the software comes from the same company, but it is!

Let me know if there has been any resolution to this problem over the past
number of months that complaints have been surfacing.

Let me know where to send the bill for wasted time trying to find a problem
that has nothing to do with what I did.
 
Jeff said:
I read other posts on this subject. Some blame it on add ons or toolbars,
but my hard drive was formatted and Internet Explorer was just installed
with
all updates including SP1.

I just wanted to point out that this is not an uncommon problem, it just
takes months before people realize that it is common and just some glitch
on
their own computer, before you hear about it. It happens to everyone
using
IE6 trying to access my website www.meyersag.com

The website views perfectly fine with Netscape. I am guessing that it is
some sort of malfunction between Publisher's html and IE6. This is not
what
one would expect when the software comes from the same company, but it is!

Let me know if there has been any resolution to this problem over the past
number of months that complaints have been surfacing.

Let me know where to send the bill for wasted time trying to find a
problem
that has nothing to do with what I did.
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What leads you to think it's a Publisher problem? If you remove publisher
does IE work okay?
Windows version?
IE version number (e.g. 6.0.2800.1106)?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/default.aspx
 
My computer and everyone elses can view websites produced with other software
just fine, so it is may be a Publisher problem. Yes it only happens to
Internet Explorer, but it also only happens to Publisher. So it is up in air
which is the problem, but it has been going on for months and no answers from
Microsoft! Also posted this in Publisher newsgroup hoping someone will have
an idea. The only way I could rule out Publisher is to redo the website with
another program.

My computer is Window 2000 Professional SP4, IE6.0.2800.1106 SP1 Q823353.
Also happens to people with other operating systems 98SE, ME, XP, etc. I do
not know if it happens to other versions of IE or not, but chances are that
most people keep IE up to date.

I someone would come up with an answer and say to do this or do not do this
to avoid problems, fine, but I have not seen anything posted to date, just
numerous other people with the same problem.

Later
Jeff
 
Jeff said:
My computer and everyone elses can view websites produced with other
software
just fine, so it is may be a Publisher problem. Yes it only happens to
Internet Explorer, but it also only happens to Publisher. So it is up in
air
which is the problem, but it has been going on for months and no answers
from
Microsoft! Also posted this in Publisher newsgroup hoping someone will
have
an idea. The only way I could rule out Publisher is to redo the website
with
another program.

My computer is Window 2000 Professional SP4, IE6.0.2800.1106 SP1 Q823353.
Also happens to people with other operating systems 98SE, ME, XP, etc. I
do
not know if it happens to other versions of IE or not, but chances are
that
most people keep IE up to date.

I someone would come up with an answer and say to do this or do not do
this
to avoid problems, fine, but I have not seen anything posted to date, just
numerous other people with the same problem.

Later
Jeff
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I'm sorry but I could not follow that message. It seems to be full of
contradictions and unclear sentences..

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/default.aspx
 
If I knew what was causing the problem, then I would not be asking the
questions! I stated what my computer has and does not have. How am I
supposed to know what exactly everyone else is using that also has IE6 crash
when trying to view a Publisher 2003 website. I was only trying to point you
in the direction that I feel the answers may come from.

I guess that means that MS does not have any answers to this problem.

I provided the info you requested. This is a discussion group, not business
literature. If you have any specific questions about what I have posed, then
ask. Down playing the problem is not solving it, now is it.

Later
Jeff
 
Jeff,

I am currently having the same issue. I just made a website in Publisher
2003 and when the website is posted the images are slow to load and the image
placeholders show with that little icon in the upper left hand corner(not the
red X). The images only take a second to load but the place holder looks
very unprofessional. I just wanted to see what your solution was. The
website is www.dscontainers.com if you want to see what I mean.

I have actually noticed something and not sure if it is coincidence. I have
IE 6.0.2600 on my desktop and everything looks fine. I have tested 5 other
machines with 6.0.2800 w/ SP 1 and that is when I get the slow image load w/
the placeholder. Not sure if this means anything.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil
 
The problem is likely Publisher. Go to the Frontpage forum and search
publisher. The general advice in the FP forum is to never, never, never use
publisher for websites.

This is frustrating, as I spent considerable time developing something that
I was happy with in Publisher, as I do not need a lot of functions in my 8
page website. I wish that I had this information prior to developing the
website with publisher. Publisher makes nice looking websites, but they are
not functional and have too many problems.

My solution: I am currently in the process of developing my website in
Frontpage. There is no effective way to move the website between the
programs, so the site needs to be redeveloped from scratch. Frontpage is a
little tougher to get the site to look like what I want, but I am confident
that a lot of these functionallity problems will go away. I do not have a
lot of free time, but I have been picking away at this occassionally. It is
not as if the process is taking days.

I checked your site and also see the red x image icons prior to image
download. Publisher has a lot of problems, and this may be one of them. I
have seen a lot of these problems with publisher posted where Microsoft MVP's
flat out state that there is problem that has not been resolved, blame it on
something else that is not accurate, or simply downplay or ignore the
problem, as you see with my posting.

Later
Jeff
 
....
It happens to everyone using IE6 trying to access my website
www.meyersag.com
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Jeff,

I was initially crashing randomly due to bugs in vgx.dll

There is a hotfix for it which is available through the catalog.

<title>Internet Explorer stops responding or crashes, and you receive
an access violation in Vgx.dll, when you view a Web page in Internet Explorer 6.0</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;885932

That makes the crash less frequent and more avoidable.

Now my symptom is the the graphic you have at the top left is initially
rendered as an image placeholder. As soon as I try to right-click on it
I get this crash:

<example>
AppName: iexplore.exe AppVer: 6.0.2900.2180
ModName: ntdll.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180
Offset: 0001142e
</example>

vgx.dll is involved in the Stack Back Trace with that one too, of course
but there is also an indication that msvcrt.dll could be the culprit.

There is a hotfix for msvcirt.dll available but I haven't been able to get
it yet; so I don't know if that would fix the remaining crash.

<title>You receive a &quot;This application has requested the Runtime
to terminate it in an unusual way&quot; error message when you run a
custom Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 program in Windows XP</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=884538


If it goes any deeper than that FileMon shows that there is a multitude
of obscure candidates to look at, some of them recently updated by
security patches. ;o

For example, just before the crash IE for some reason was writing
an .emz file in the TIF. What program should that be associated
with? FWIW I only have this MZ association.

assoc | find /i "mz" ..wmz=WMZFile

ftype | find /i "mz"
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WMZFile="D:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe" /layout:"%L"
</checking>


Note: I have no Office products installed on this partition but I do
have some very old Office viewer programs and their extensions.

Perhaps I should add a dummy association to Notepad for that
..emz and see if the symptom changes? Etc.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Hi Robert:

Thanks for looking into this.

Publisher is a simple program for the development of simple websites, but I
do not have the expertise to debug problems that publisher creates. These
bugs undermine the initial illusion that the website development is easy with
this program.

I will be honest with you, I do not understand the majority of your
comments. Are these fixes necessary for the person viewing the website to
address or are they necessary for me to address since I am developing the
pages on this computer?

I have made my decision to put the information into Frontpage, and am pretty
much done with just a few things to finish, then I will be putting that
website up to replace the current one. I had used Frontpage in the past with
out any problems, but I thought I would try Publisher, due to its simplicity.

Later
Jeff
 
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