Messenger popups...

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Wolf

I've run "Shoot the Messenger" and it says that windows
messenger is disabled, but it keeps popping up message
after freaking message and it's really getting on my
nerves...I don't use it in any way shape or form...any
way to just remove it or permanently shut it off? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Greetings Wolf,

Shoot the Messenger will turn off the "Messenger Service", but it won't turn off "Windows
Messenger" (these are two different things). To disable Windows Messenger, open it up (click
Start, then Run, type "msmsgs" and click OK), click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and
uncheck 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts'
(depending on version) as well as 'Allow this program to run in the background' or 'Allow
Windows Messenger to run in the background' (depending on version).

Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent versions of Norton Antivirus added a
new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can conflict with Messenger and cause it to
also keep starting. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus
icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'),
click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK.
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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
 
Wolf said:
I've run "Shoot the Messenger" and it says that windows
messenger is disabled, but it keeps popping up message
after freaking message and it's really getting on my
nerves...I don't use it in any way shape or form...any
way to just remove it or permanently shut it off? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Turning off the messenger service (which is what STM does) is an incredibly
stupid, idiotic and foolish thing to do. It has no bearing on messenger in
any way, shape or form. The Messenger Service is what spammers exploit to
shove porn at you. Read on to learn why disabling it is a bad idea.

Do the title bars of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This particular "sales method" is strikingly similar to the
"protection" rackets offered to small businesses by organized
criminals. Yes, it's a scam; no reputable business would need to
resort to extortion. Particularly since they're trying to sell you a
type of protection that is already available to you free of charge.

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Disabling the messenger service, as
some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does nothing to
secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" these
messages and the problem they represent is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service is a "head in the sand" approach to computer security.

The real problem is not the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you've been
advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this helpful?

Equivalent Scenario 1: Somewhere in a house, a small fire starts,
and sets off the smoke alarm. You, not immediately seeing any
fire/smoke, complain about the noise of the smoke detector, and are
advised to remove the smoke detector's battery and go back to sleep.

Equivalent Scenario 2: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as some of your respondents,
replies, "Well, don't do that."

I'm beginning to think that the people deliberately posting such
bad advice are hacker-wannabes who have no true interest in helping
you secure your system, but would rather give you a false sense of
security while ensuring that your computer is still open to
exploitation.

As for getting rid of WM, it's easy. You can download a script to kill it
from Doug Knox (MVP)'s site here
www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm. It's perfectly safe - I've
used it. Doug is a well liked, respected and trusted member of the MVP
community.

*Don't* install NAV - it has a nasty habit of screwing up other things (like
parts of Office for example).
 
Thanks much.
-----Original Message-----
Greetings Wolf,

Shoot the Messenger will turn off the "Messenger
Service", but it won't turn off "Windows
Messenger" (these are two different things). To disable
Windows Messenger, open it up (click
Start, then Run, type "msmsgs" and click OK), click
Tools, Options, Preferences tab and
uncheck 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run
Windows Messenger when Windows starts'
(depending on version) as well as 'Allow this program to
run in the background' or 'Allow
Windows Messenger to run in the background' (depending on version).

Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent
versions of Norton Antivirus added a
new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can
conflict with Messenger and cause it to
also keep starting. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus
(Right-click on the Norton Antivirus
icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock),
choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'),
click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN
Instant Messenger and click OK.
 
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