how do you know that the windows PM when it restarts the comp and runs
something prior to booting windows xp, is doing it in DOS?
Because it's the same program, and running "prior to booting
windows XP", you have to load an OS to get anything done.
Then there's the texts in some of the binaries (not the
Rescue Disk files) like "DOS 4G Copyright Rational Systems"
or "Causeway DOS Extender". Note I didn't claim it was
Microsoft DOS, it doesn't have to be packaged the same (same
MS DOS files).
and, I always thought that Win NT(XP is an NT), doesn't sit in DOS.
It doesn't, that's the whole point - to not be running
windows while these operations are under way.
Looking at makes DOS, can be seen from a boot disk. command.com,
io.sys, [msdos.sys - prob optional for a boot disk]. To run any
commands from there automatically, a batch file called autoexec.bat is
used.
See above. You're thinking of one flavor of MS DOS, while
I'm thinking of a semi-compatible Disk Operating System.
You could be right actually, I see those files in the PM
directory! But they could be there just to create "rescue disks". I
guess the test would be if I tried to delete them and watched if it
failed to partition the drive properly on restart!!!!
The files in the Rescue Disk folder are there only to make
the rescure disks, AFAIK. There's a second set of DOS exe.
Anyhow.. although that's an interesting side point.. that PM for
windows runs in DOS when it restarts. I don't see how that affects my
point.
Well... you wrote "I don't know how people can say it can
run in DOS without mentioning that.", when anything you'd
need to do (to charge the partitions around like the OP
might need) that you can't do without partition magic, is
going to be running it in DOS without even touching the
rescue disk.
If you are saying, - well it uses DOS anyway so there's no need to
make the rescue disks / partition magic for dos. Then that's wrong.
The purpose of partition magic for DOS, is for when windows isn't
loading.
There's "Partition Magic for DOS" as a formal title, and
then there's "Even the Partition Magic you run in Windows,
is only needed if it is then going to reboot and run in DOS
mode". The core of the program isn't running in windows,
that just generates a script for the DOS program to run,
besides the basic things it can have windows do which are
functions you don't need Partition Magic for at all.
Or where you don't have windows installed.
Or when you just want to boot a system to DOS and do
something with partition magic instead of the runaround of
booting to windows to load PM, only to have it then reboot
to DOS again anyway.
So, it is useful.. and he should know that making the rescue disks is
a PM for DOS. (not dependent on windows).
As is the 2nd set of DOS EXE that Partition magic runs, and
the 3rd set that's really PM for DOS.
It all ties back into what started this discussion, that you
don't need Windows and you don't need official "rescue
disks", you just need the PM DOS files somewhere that DOS
can "See", whichever flavor of DOS you're running (w/addt'l
driver when required per the storage device).
I guess if you didn't have the rescue disks in mind when you said it
can run in DOS. Then, that explains it!
I didn't, I don't ever use them and I often run PM in DOS.
But that is really not what
one means when they say a PM that runs in DOS. When they ask about
that, they mean not dependent on windows!!!!
... and it doesn't depend on windows for anything you'd need
it for (anything you can't do without having Partition
Magic), only DOS.-
