ME inside XP

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Norman

Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would run ME
inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it but am having
difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the name of the file for a
search or point me to the download again I'd greatly appreciate it.
I want to give it a try as a way of getting around a dual boot which
restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.

Norman
 
Norman said:
Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would
run ME inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it
but am having difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the
name of the file for a search or point me to the download again I'd
greatly appreciate it. I want to give it a try as a way of getting around
a dual boot which
restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.
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I do not know what you are speaking of.

However - you can use something like VirtualBox (free) to run a Virtual
Machine inside of Windows XP with the OS(es) of your choice.
 
Norman said:
Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would run ME
inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it but am having
difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the name of the file for a
search or point me to the download again I'd greatly appreciate it.
I want to give it a try as a way of getting around a dual boot which
restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.

Norman
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It sounds as if you were advised to try a virtual machine solution.
The two free ones of which I'm aware are Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox
(http://www.virtualbox.org/).

NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista
Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your
results may vary.


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I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it. I was only toying
with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in ME at the time.
It stated at the MS site that it was intended for XP users that had software
that would not run in XP. And allowed an install of say ME in a box, shell,
something like that. All of the XP drivers would be used.
Hard to find since I don't remember name, approximate size, etc. and not
exactly sure how I categorized it and thus buried it in many GB of archived
files.
And can't be sure I used default name even. I'm stumped that I did not burn
to CD unless it was during the era of my burner problems.
I did a light search on the MS link below but did not find.
Norman
 
Norman said:
I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it. I was only
toying with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in
ME at the time. It stated at the MS site that it was intended for
XP users that had software that would not run in XP. And allowed an
install of say ME in a box, shell, something like that. All of the
XP drivers would be used. Hard to find since I don't remember name,
approximate size, etc.
and not exactly sure how I categorized it and thus buried it in
many GB of archived files.
And can't be sure I used default name even. I'm stumped that I did
not burn to CD unless it was during the era of my burner problems.
I did a light search on the MS link below but did not find.
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VirtualBox - Install Windows ME into it. I believe that to be your best
bet.

However...

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Windows+ME+SATA+Norman&num=10&scoring=r&as_epq=Mike+Maltby

Either of those you?
 
You got me. And thanks for the hints.
I had decided to archive some stuff on HDD to CD as long as burner was
working. Figured XPSP3 folder would be a good place to start and along side
that folder was folder 'VirtPC', short for virtual PC. Also links to website
that now took me to the newer version.

I know I need to learn better search methods.
Norman
 
Thanks. I should drop in just to say hi since it is getting so slow
overthere.
Norman
 
VanguardLH said:
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Something I forgot to mention about licensing. When you upgrade, you do
not get another license for Windows. If you upgraded to Windows XP from
Windows ME then you lost your license for Windows ME. Upgrades do not
increase the number of license that you have. All upgrades must trace
back through a single license to a full version that was used as the
initial OS. Once you upgrade, the prior version is no longer valid for
use.

When installing Windows within a virtual machine, you are required to
have a license to run it there. So if Windows XP is your host OS and
Windows ME is your guest OS (in the virtual machine) then you need 2
licenses: one for Windows XP and another for Windows ME.

You never mentioned WHY you think you need Windows ME. What application
won't run under Windows XP, even in compatibility mode?
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The OP did mention why:
it was a case of ME not "seeing" the SATA drive.
If there is an ME driver for SATA, it should work.
 
VanguardLH said:
Pointed you to it WHERE? In a newsgroups post? If so, search Google
Groups for posts submitted by Mike Maltby.

http://groups.google.com/groups?scoring=d&q=author:mike+author:maltby

The only technical newsgroup shown to where he posted was for 1 post
back in 2003 in the Windows ME newsgroup. You didn't pick a unique
enough moniker to go Google Group searching on it to find whatever
newsgroup discussion you were involved in before that discussed whatever
it is that you vaguely remember.
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What can I say, Shenan found it.
Not an issue in a virtual machine, like when using Virtual PC or VMWare
Server (both free, I prefer VMWare). All the hardware except the CPU is
emulated inside the virtual machine.
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Can you expand upon your choice and why?
Or are you saying the distinction is that VMWare is 'emulated inside' vs.
Virtual PC, stated below 'emulated with'?
Yep, the parent or host OS still has to communicate with the real
hardware through the use of drivers. All hardware except the CPU is
emulated with the virtual machine. You don't need drivers in the
virtual machine. However, you don't get the full feature set of your
real hardware. You get the emulated hardware which supports
legacy-grade hardware requirements.
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So then it does not truly emulate, it just comes close?

Don't expect to play games within a
virtual machine. You never mentioned WHAT you wanted to run within a
Windows ME environment.
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Darned, you are raining on my joy, at least a little since I have not fully
explored what I'd run on the virtual machine.
Norman
 
VanguardLH said:
in


Something I forgot to mention about licensing. When you upgrade, you do
not get another license for Windows. If you upgraded to Windows XP from
Windows ME then you lost your license for Windows ME. Upgrades do not
increase the number of license that you have. All upgrades must trace
back through a single license to a full version that was used as the
initial OS. Once you upgrade, the prior version is no longer valid for
use.
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Nada problem. I have two of WME. Also two of 95, one of 98, and yet 98SE.
When installing Windows within a virtual machine, you are required to
have a license to run it there. So if Windows XP is your host OS and
Windows ME is your guest OS (in the virtual machine) then you need 2
licenses: one for Windows XP and another for Windows ME.

You never mentioned WHY you think you need Windows ME. What application
won't run under Windows XP, even in compatibility mode?
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Paperport printer will not install to XP SP2.
Norman
 
philo said:
The OP did mention why:
it was a case of ME not "seeing" the SATA drive.
If there is an ME driver for SATA, it should work.
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Thanks Philo, among other possibilities. And I did not realize I'd have to
answer to the piracy police before getting an answer.
Norman
 
VanguardLH said:
In a virtual machine, there are no SATA drives. All hardware except the
CPU are emulated in a virtual machine. So that a SATA drive is used by
the host OS is unimportant when running Windows ME within a virtual
machine.
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I think Philo was pointing out that if WME had SATA drivers it would work in
WME.
And if I had drivers I would not be considering the VM to run ME or 98 for
legacy software, sidestepping the issue of not being to use my SATA drive in
WME.
Norman
 
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