MB Advice athlon 64 939 pin. VIA or Nforce?

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Gordon Scott

Hi

currently I have a 754 pin K8V SE Deluxe and want to upgrade to 939 pin.
Current board has a via chipset, I would like to move up to the kt800 pro
chipset only for the sake of not reinstalling the OS, hoping that
sticking to via will not burp with a new board.

So what are the pros and cons via vs nforce?
I also have a A7n8x deluxe and love the nforce chipset on it.

Gordon
 
Any relatively new OS is gonna burp unless the new m/b is next to identical
to the old one. But (at least in Win XP) only a repair install is needed....


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Gordon Scott said:
Hi

currently I have a 754 pin K8V SE Deluxe and want to upgrade to 939 pin.
Current board has a via chipset, I would like to move up to the kt800 pro
chipset only for the sake of not reinstalling the OS, hoping that
sticking to via will not burp with a new board.

So what are the pros and cons via vs nforce?
I also have a A7n8x deluxe and love the nforce chipset on it.

Gordon
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Well, Gordon.

I have a number of machines on the go at the moment including i845PE, i850,
i865 and an NForce 2 A7N8X ver2.0 DL which I think is absolutely great too.
Took my Barton 2500+ at 200 FSB straight out of the box.

I'm currently torturing an Asus A8V it is happily running a 3000+ at HTT/FSB
of 300 - SisSoft tells me that's Opteron 152 country! Its a frisky beast
though, with lots of settings in the BIOS for the cpu/memory. There's lots
of historical Winchester/AGP lock/dual channel stuff which is just about
ironed out now with the rev 2.0 boards and the most recent BIOSes..

I would have gone for another NForce, but I wouldn't have been happy with a
nice new NF3 when I knew there were NF4's out. Right now I'm not ready to go
DDR2 and PCIe - tooooo much money tied-up in the "old" stuff.

Anyway, as you know, "you pays you money and you takes your choice".

HTH

Pete
 
Thomas said:
Any relatively new OS is gonna burp unless the new m/b is next to identical
to the old one. But (at least in Win XP) only a repair install is needed....

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This is what Im hoping, a repair, or uninstalling chipset drivers before
powering down and installing the new board. That is of course should i
choose the via kt800 pro board.
Im hoping the kt800 and kt800 pro are close enough to not warrant a
complee reinstall.

Of course choosing nforce would mean a complete fresh install.

Any comments on what drivers should be uninstalled if I went kt800 pro?
I suspect the onboard audio, and the via busmaster drivers, any others?
device manager doesnt really clue me in to what the chipset drivers
really drive.

thx
Gordon
 
Immuno said:
Well, Gordon.

I have a number of machines on the go at the moment including i845PE, i850,
i865 and an NForce 2 A7N8X ver2.0 DL which I think is absolutely great too.
Took my Barton 2500+ at 200 FSB straight out of the box.

I'm currently torturing an Asus A8V it is happily running a 3000+ at HTT/FSB
of 300 - SisSoft tells me that's Opteron 152 country! Its a frisky beast
though, with lots of settings in the BIOS for the cpu/memory. There's lots
of historical Winchester/AGP lock/dual channel stuff which is just about
ironed out now with the rev 2.0 boards and the most recent BIOSes..

I would have gone for another NForce, but I wouldn't have been happy with a
nice new NF3 when I knew there were NF4's out. Right now I'm not ready to go
DDR2 and PCIe - tooooo much money tied-up in the "old" stuff.

Anyway, as you know, "you pays you money and you takes your choice".

HTH

Pete
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thx for the comments
Agreed pci-e and ddr2 is something I can live without for a few years.
I do upgrade my systems regularly, about 3 or 4 times a year, swapping
out this and that.
I've seeen the nforce4 stuff on the horizon and would like to move there
once its a bit more mainstream.

Gordon
 
Gordon Scott said:
This is what Im hoping, a repair, or uninstalling chipset drivers before
powering down and installing the new board. That is of course should i
choose the via kt800 pro board.
Im hoping the kt800 and kt800 pro are close enough to not warrant a
complee reinstall.

Of course choosing nforce would mean a complete fresh install.

Any comments on what drivers should be uninstalled if I went kt800 pro?
I suspect the onboard audio, and the via busmaster drivers, any others?
device manager doesnt really clue me in to what the chipset drivers
really drive.

thx
Gordon
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I'd reckon on you having a better than even chance of doing the swap without
too may issues. I do a lot of swapping kit around too (from your other
reply). Intel chip sets seem to be rather picky, but VIA and SiS seem rather
more "promiscuous". I seem to remember even changing from Intel to NForce
with one drive recently - forgot it wasn't "clean" and damn-me if it didn't
just boot up. It was a bit confused, slapped in the driver disk... cheered
it up right as rain! I even swapped from P4 (Via) to Athlon (SiS) with one
drive - both boards were PCChips though!

When I did a clean install with XP everything got installed bar the audio
and LAN. However it ran like a dog until I did the Hyperion upgrade.

When I've done swaps, I've just gone in with a "repair install" without
uninstalling anything. The worst that can happen is you end up with some
superfluous drivers in various directories. I little excess baggage, but no
harm otherwise, they won't get re-included in the new installation.

Good luck!

Pete
 
Hi, try this b4 changing mobos, With the old motherboard still in the
system:

You run Sysprep.exe and tell it to "RESEAL" Windows XP. Note that it will
shutdown the PC when it completes the reseal process.

Now pull out the old MB, install the new one and fire up the machine. It
re-activates Windows XP and populates the device manager list.

You will need to re-activate with the same key-code. Your applications,
data, user settings, Service Pack Updates and Windows Updates will all be
retained.
Not my suggestion but one posted up on a MS newsgroup....
ChrisC
 
Chris said:
Hi, try this b4 changing mobos, With the old motherboard still in the
system:

You run Sysprep.exe and tell it to "RESEAL" Windows XP. Note that it will
shutdown the PC when it completes the reseal process.

Now pull out the old MB, install the new one and fire up the machine. It
re-activates Windows XP and populates the device manager list.

You will need to re-activate with the same key-code. Your applications,
data, user settings, Service Pack Updates and Windows Updates will all be
retained.
Not my suggestion but one posted up on a MS newsgroup....
ChrisC
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thx
tho this almost seems like its meant to do with activation than drivers.
Gordon
 
Immuno said:
Well, Gordon.

I have a number of machines on the go at the moment including i845PE, i850,
i865 and an NForce 2 A7N8X ver2.0 DL which I think is absolutely great too.
Took my Barton 2500+ at 200 FSB straight out of the box.

I'm currently torturing an Asus A8V it is happily running a 3000+ at HTT/FSB
of 300 - SisSoft tells me that's Opteron 152 country! Its a frisky beast
though, with lots of settings in the BIOS for the cpu/memory. There's lots
of historical Winchester/AGP lock/dual channel stuff which is just about
ironed out now with the rev 2.0 boards and the most recent BIOSes..

I would have gone for another NForce, but I wouldn't have been happy with a
nice new NF3 when I knew there were NF4's out. Right now I'm not ready to go
DDR2 and PCIe - tooooo much money tied-up in the "old" stuff.

Anyway, as you know, "you pays you money and you takes your choice".

HTH

Pete
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After years with Intel and ATI, this is my first foray into AMD and
Nvidia and what the heck, why not go partly whole hog. I bought an
Athlon 64 3500+, Asus A8N-SLI socket 939 NForce4, 120 SATA drive, 1 gig
of RAM a 6600GT PCIe, all in an Antec Sonata. I hope I made the right
choices. It is very fast and runs all the latest games quite well.

My last computer box purchase was 4 years ago and so I did not have to
migrate old components into the new box which meant I could start from a
clean slate.

I know that this did not answer your question but perhaps starting from
scratch may not be a bad idea.

Ron
 
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