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ToolPackinMama
MikeM said:
IMHO it's a good thing. In my experience, Seagate drives are better.
I don't know if any actual improvement has become apparent, yet.
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IMHO it's a good thing. In my experience, Seagate drives are better.
I don't know if any actual improvement has become apparent, yet.
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MikeM
So it seems Maxtor's quality probably haven't improved, as in Onetouch
III, since the Seagate takeover? Have Maxtor drives changed since the
takeover?
Thanks
Mike
III, since the Seagate takeover? Have Maxtor drives changed since the
takeover?
Thanks
Mike
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johns
This industry has a serious problem with success leading
to lower standards, and eventually a complete loss of
reputation. That bad feeling doesn't go away either. I still
think Western Digital makes crap drives because I replaced
hundreds of them in their early years. Same reason I won't
buy anything made by ACER. I still like Maxtor even though
I know they started producing cheap drives, and I've replaced
far more Maxtors than WD. Seagate was my favorite for a
while, until they started making drives that squeeled so
loud you couldn't work around them. Never seems to bother
the Users. Cheap is all they want.
johns
to lower standards, and eventually a complete loss of
reputation. That bad feeling doesn't go away either. I still
think Western Digital makes crap drives because I replaced
hundreds of them in their early years. Same reason I won't
buy anything made by ACER. I still like Maxtor even though
I know they started producing cheap drives, and I've replaced
far more Maxtors than WD. Seagate was my favorite for a
while, until they started making drives that squeeled so
loud you couldn't work around them. Never seems to bother
the Users. Cheap is all they want.
johns
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Robert Sudbury
I haven't trusted Seagate since the days of Conner drives... I consider
their nickname of Seacrate to be apt for all the trouble they've caused.
Remember stiction?
I've found Maxtor drives to be cheap, but reliable to have their magic bell
of failure to sound the moment their warranty was up... don't know how they
do that.
Quantum used to mean Quality to me, then they pulled their LCT (low cost
technology) stunt.
Fujitsu was always behind the technology curve for speeds and capacity but I
found them reliable.
Toshiba drives haven't been endearing themselves to me of late.
Haven't had enough experience with Samsung or Hitachi drives yet...
Western Digital has always been a good buy IMHO.
Then ask someone on the other side of town and you'll get a different
opinion, also valid. Every manufacturer has their good/bad... though I
positively despise Seagate drives. 8)
their nickname of Seacrate to be apt for all the trouble they've caused.
Remember stiction?
I've found Maxtor drives to be cheap, but reliable to have their magic bell
of failure to sound the moment their warranty was up... don't know how they
do that.
Quantum used to mean Quality to me, then they pulled their LCT (low cost
technology) stunt.
Fujitsu was always behind the technology curve for speeds and capacity but I
found them reliable.
Toshiba drives haven't been endearing themselves to me of late.
Haven't had enough experience with Samsung or Hitachi drives yet...
Western Digital has always been a good buy IMHO.
Then ask someone on the other side of town and you'll get a different
opinion, also valid. Every manufacturer has their good/bad... though I
positively despise Seagate drives. 8)
P
Phisherman
I haven't trusted Seagate since the days of Conner drives... I consider
their nickname of Seacrate to be apt for all the trouble they've caused.
Remember stiction?
I've found Maxtor drives to be cheap, but reliable to have their magic bell
of failure to sound the moment their warranty was up... don't know how they
do that.
Quantum used to mean Quality to me, then they pulled their LCT (low cost
technology) stunt.
Fujitsu was always behind the technology curve for speeds and capacity but I
found them reliable.
Toshiba drives haven't been endearing themselves to me of late.
Haven't had enough experience with Samsung or Hitachi drives yet...
Western Digital has always been a good buy IMHO.
Then ask someone on the other side of town and you'll get a different
opinion, also valid. Every manufacturer has their good/bad... though I
positively despise Seagate drives. 8)
I've had a friend swear by WD drives so I bought one and it failed in
its 8th month of use. Since then I bought Seagate and have not had
any problems. I like their 5 year warranty.
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Rod Speed
Robert Sudbury said:I haven't trusted Seagate since the days of Conner drives... I consider their nickname of Seacrate
to be apt for all the trouble they've caused. Remember stiction?
I've found Maxtor drives to be cheap, but reliable to have their
magic bell of failure to sound the moment their warranty was up...
don't know how they do that.
They dont.
Quantum used to mean Quality to me, then they pulled their LCT (low cost technology) stunt.
Fujitsu was always behind the technology curve for speeds and capacity but I found them reliable.
Pity about the infamous MPGs.
Toshiba drives haven't been endearing themselves to me of late.
Haven't had enough experience with Samsung or Hitachi drives yet...
Western Digital has always been a good buy IMHO.
Pity about the ones with the howling bearings.
And their stupid jumpering scheme.
G
Guest
Robert said:I haven't trusted Seagate since the days of Conner drives... I consider
their nickname of Seacrate to be apt for all the trouble they've caused.
Remember stiction?
This is why it's very important to not buy a Seagate ST-251, ST-125,
ST-138, or ST-157, unless you plan to keep it spinning constantly.
R
Robert Sudbury
That's the thing... Every manufacturer has had terrible product fiascos...
It's just that not everyone has experienced them first hand. The problems
you cite I never ran into.
It almost seems regional sometimes.
Fujitsu always puzzled me... they just were good drives from my experience.
Great RMA too... just had to drive down the road, walk in and exchange it at
their HQ. 8)
It's just that not everyone has experienced them first hand. The problems
you cite I never ran into.
It almost seems regional sometimes.
Fujitsu always puzzled me... they just were good drives from my experience.
Great RMA too... just had to drive down the road, walk in and exchange it at
their HQ. 8)
R
Robert Sudbury
....and they still have stiction problems in their SCSI products as late as
their 9GB. The rest of my department, including folks who'd been there for
20 years thought I was looney when I told them what the problem was, or
rather what the `fix' was. These drives went in with servers back in ....
'97,'98 think it was.
I can't say much about their latest offerings since we centralized our
servers.
their 9GB. The rest of my department, including folks who'd been there for
20 years thought I was looney when I told them what the problem was, or
rather what the `fix' was. These drives went in with servers back in ....
'97,'98 think it was.
I can't say much about their latest offerings since we centralized our
servers.
G
Guest
Robert said:Every manufacturer has had terrible product fiascos...
As have some of their customers. A WD 31600 drive, from a computer in
the field, failed, and board replacement didn't help. So our
technician recommended sending it to Ontrack for data recovery, but
that shining example of nepotism, the boss' son, decides to open up the
drive and fix it himself because, after all, he is a Mechanical
Engineer (who can barely do high school calculus). He manages to
scrape the platters and rolls his chair over a platter he dropped on
the carpeted floor. I didn't see him try to hammer that platter flat,
but I did see a drop of his sweat fall into the drive. The final cost
was 2 people taking time out from working on other projects and
spending 10 days trying to recover the lost data from other sources (we
don't need no stinkin' backups). Ontrack would have been much cheaper.
R
Rod Speed
Robert Sudbury said:That's the thing... Every manufacturer has had terrible product fiascos...
Not all of them.
It's just that not everyone has experienced them first hand. The problems you cite I never ran
into.
It almost seems regional sometimes.
Nope.
Fujitsu always puzzled me... they just were good drives from my experience.
Yeah, I used them for a long time, fortunately didnt get fanged
by the MPG fiasco, never actually had one of them personally.
Fujitsu claimed it wasnt their fault, a fault of the
chip supplier and the evidence supports that claim.
Great RMA too... just had to drive down the road, walk in and exchange it at their HQ. 8)
Yeah, hard to beat. Thats the main reason I avoided Maxtors,
they had to be returned to Singapore using a receipted delivery
system that cost more than the drive was worth.
J
John Doe
As have some of their customers. A WD 31600 drive, from a
computer in the field, failed, and board replacement didn't help.
So our technician recommended sending it to Ontrack for data
recovery, but that shining example of nepotism, the boss' son,
decides to open up the drive
Instantly destroying it.
and fix it himself because, after all, he is a Mechanical
Engineer (who can barely do high school calculus). He manages to
scrape the platters and rolls his chair over a platter he dropped
on the carpeted floor. I didn't see him try to hammer that
platter flat,
lol