Maximum Memory for Vista?

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Peter Max

What is the maximum memory that Vista will recognize? I am working on video
and am thinking of switching to PC. Need a lot of RAM.

Thanks,
Peter
 
The 32-bit version of Windows Vista will recognize
4GB of RAM and the 64-bit version 8GB, providing
Service Pack 1 is installed.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

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What is the maximum memory that Vista will recognize? I am working on video
and am thinking of switching to PC. Need a lot of RAM.

Thanks,
Peter
 
Carey Frisch said:
The 32-bit version of Windows Vista will recognize
4GB of RAM

It'll SEE 4GB (after SP1) but it won't USE 4GB RAM - about a max of 3.5,
maybe less
 
Peter Max said:
What is the maximum memory that Vista will recognize? I am working on
video and am thinking of switching to PC. Need a lot of RAM.

Thanks,
Peter


32 bit will SEE 4Gb max, but will only USE max of 3.5 GB. 64 bit will use
much more...
 
Wrong again, boofhead!
Where does he say he has BASIC?

Memory specifications
All editions of Windows Vista 64-bit provide increased memory support beyond
the standard 4 gigabytes (GB) available with 32-bit editions. Refer to the
specific edition of Windows Vista 64-bit to determine maximum memory capacity.

Windows Vista Edition 64-bit memory support

Home Basic
8 GB

Home Premium
16 GB

Ultimate
128+ GB

Business
128+ GB

Enterprise
128+ GB
 
Here is the correct answer Peter!
Take no notice of Frisch!

Memory specifications
All editions of Windows Vista 64-bit provide increased memory support beyond
the standard 4 gigabytes (GB) available with 32-bit editions. Refer to the
specific edition of Windows Vista 64-bit to determine maximum memory capacity.

Windows Vista Edition 64-bit memory support

Home Basic
8 GB

Home Premium
16 GB

Ultimate
128+ GB

Business
128+ GB

Enterprise
128+ GB
 
Care to point to a consumer computer one
can purchase, at a reasonable price, that can
even accommodate 128GB of installed RAM?
Or even 16GB RAM?

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance
 
Here is the correct answer Peter!
Take no notice of Frisch!

Memory specifications
All editions of Windows Vista 64-bit provide increased memory support
beyond the standard 4 gigabytes (GB) available with 32-bit editions.
Refer to the specific edition of Windows Vista 64-bit to determine
maximum memory capacity.

Windows Vista Edition 64-bit memory support

Home Basic
8 GB

Home Premium
16 GB

Ultimate
128+ GB

Business
128+ GB

Enterprise
128+ GB

I wonder why they cripple the 'Home' versions?
 
Peter Max said:
What is the maximum memory that Vista will recognize? I am working on
video and am thinking of switching to PC. Need a lot of RAM.

Thanks,
Peter

Frankly, it is best to search and research yourself at reliable tech sites
than let newbie's or know it alls (please listen to the MVPs, they do know
what they are saying most of the time) address your problems, incorrectly.
You'll need a 64Bit system with Windows 64 Bit OS but it is not yet
compatible with many apps and a lot of hardware (just like the 32Bit, huh).
32Bit has memory address limits unless it is Windows Server. I'll find that
info and list the link below.

Sure you can install tons of memory in 32Bit but it won't see more than 4
and will only show 3.2 (if I remember correctly it has something to do with
video memory addressing). In 32Bit the OS will use 2GB and the apps 2GB.
In some computers only 3.2GB will show but 4GB is there so don't worry.

http://windowsmvp.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!80195647FE07388F!157.entry

http://www.practicalpc.co.uk/computing/vista/vista-32bit-memory.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/20/2213231&from=rss

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=443

http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=989

http://compreviews.about.com/od/memory/a/Vista4GB.htm

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx addresses physical
and virtual memory. There are physical memory limits.

Physical Memory Limits: Windows Vista
The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows
Vista.

Version Limit in 32-bit Windows Limit in 64-bit Windows
Windows Vista Ultimate 4 GB
128 GB

Windows Vista Enterprise 4 GB
128 GB

Windows Vista Business 4 GB
128 GB

Windows Vista Home Premium 4 GB
16 GB

Windows Vista Home Basic 4 GB
8 GB

Windows Vista Starter 4 GB
Not applicable



Windows Server has much larger capabilities.

And you can keep searching but most articles say the basic same thing. In
order to actually USE or RECOGNIZE more than 4GB Ram you need 64Bit Windows
on a 64Bit system or Windows Server 2003 or 2008. Then you can go Ram happy
BUT you will need SP1 to further increase memory usage. Good luck.
 
Correction: Table did not show correctly on email: should be this:

Limit in 32-bit Windows:

Windows Vista Ultimate 4 GB


Windows Vista Enterprise 4 GB


Windows Vista Business 4 GB


Windows Vista Home Premium 4 GB


Windows Vista Home Basic 4 GB


Windows Vista Starter 4 GB




Limit in 64-bit Windows:

Windows Vista Ultimate 128 GB

Windows Vista Enterprise
128 GB

Windows Vista Business
128 GB

Windows Vista Home Premium
16 GB

Windows Vista Home Basic
8 GB

Windows Vista Starter
Not applicable



Sorry for the incorrectly addressed table.


















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Mick,
Unless I missed it, the thread originator did not identify whether whether
he had a 32Bit system or a 64Bit system. A 32Bit system will recognize up to
4GB of RAM; however, because a certain amount of RAM is reserved for use by
hardware and the Paging File only about 3.1 to 3.5GB is available for other
usage. On the other hand, 64GB systems will accept more; however, at present
motherboard and RAM stick manufacturers seem to be sticking to 8GB for
personal computers.
Gene K
 
Peter said:
What is the maximum memory that Vista will recognize? I am working on
video and am thinking of switching to PC. Need a lot of RAM.

Thanks,
Peter

Just curious... assume you're currently working on a Mac... why change
to PC? Software? Price? If you are running a Mac now, what model?

Thanks,

Lang
 
Bob Campbell said:
Well, those are the technical, 32 bit addressable maximums. The real,
practical maximum you can actually USE is about 3.2 GB.

Yes, it is explained here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 and here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946003/ so as per SP1 Windows 32Bit can see
4GB of memory but some if it is used for other things.

The BIOS reserves memory space for video as quoted here:

For example, if you have a video card that has 256 MB of onboard memory,
that memory must be mapped within the first 4 GB of address space. If 4 GB
of system memory is already installed, part of that address space must be
reserved by the graphics memory mapping. Graphics memory mapping overwrites
a part of the system memory. These conditions reduce the total amount of
system memory that is available to the operating system.

The reduction in available system memory depends on the devices that are
installed in the computer. However, to avoid potential driver compatibility
issues, the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available
memory to 3.12 GB. See the "More information" section for information about
potential driver compatibility issues.

If a computer has many installed devices, the available memory may be
reduced to 3 GB or less. However, the maximum memory available in 32-bit
versions of Windows Vista is typically 3.12 GB.

So, again, to use the full potential of a lot of memory you need 64Bit since
all that will be available for OS and app use is the 3.24 of 4GB in 32Bit
but most average users don't need 64Bit and it really isn't compatible in a
lot of everyday uses. A video editor can make good use of 64Bit, etc. For
games, until the future, most work better on 32Bit (for now) but eventually
64Bit may be the way to go, a more stable, compatible 64Bit OS, we might
hope.
 
Thank you to everyone who contributed. Your help is very much appreciated.
Nice to see that Usenet "character" is alive and well! ;-)
Yeah, 4 GB of memory isn't going to cut it with HD vids. (at least if I want
to keep my hair in my head and not in clumps in my hands)

Looks like 64 bit is the only way to go but until a few critical software
vendors support it, I'm stuck paying the outrageous Apple prices for at
least one more upgrade. Hopefully, this will be my last $20K machine. (don't
believe me? go to eve's evil apple.com and configure a Mac pro with 2 x
3.2Ghz, 32GB RAM, 2 X 30" monitors, a couple of TB disks (you get the
picture...) Betcha next time it'll be half with a 64 bit AMD box at the
center and (hopefully) a MATURE version of Vista.

Again, thanks! (even to the feisty ones : )

Peter
 
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