max temp for Xp 2000+

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Can anyone tell me what is the max temp for an Athlon XP 2000+ processor. I have tried looking at the AMD website but it tells me I need the code on the procesor. I am reluctant to take it off of the motherboard in case I damage it. Any ideas on temp or where I can get the info without taking apart the computer.

One person I have spoken to says max is 40C and another says AMD can run up to 90C. I set my computer to alarm at 60C and it did just that. It has been running fine since March but decided to alarm yesterday after the computer had been running for 30mins. I have left it on, previous to this alarm, for longer and had no such problem.

Just to confirm the XP 2000+ is running at 1.67Ghz. is this right?
 
1.67Ghz is correct. As for temps, people have different opinions. I try to aim for below 50C but I have one system chugging along quite happily at 54C.

I'd say as a rough guide, anything over 56C is likely to introduce instability or crashing, in my experience. Best to aim for between 40C & 50C.

If your temp is too high, perhaps consider a better cooler or a case fan or two. Or four :D

You can download Motherboard Monitor from Here.

It's a freebie and works well on most motherboards. It's perhaps just a touch fiddly to set up, but imo it's worth it. It will show you readings for Temps, CPU speed and voltages, plus others, within Windows.
 
the system temp is about 35C but the CPU continues to be above 50C. It has however not alarmed again.

you have convinced me to purcahse a case fan as the cooler was purchased as a box set with the cpu.

Please answer these questions.

I have just looked on Ebuyer and the only case fans I can see have LEDS. Is this right?

Also people talk about putting a fan at the front to draw air in and one at the back to take it out. Do I have to knock out the plastic slits at the front of the case and mount it on the metal that has holes on it in the inside. ? My case can be found herehere.

Last question:

Where do you power all these fans from- my motherboard has a chasis fan 3pin connector, where does the second fan get powered from, and what about the third, 4th etc?

Thanks
 
It's best to steer away from fans with Led's mounted in them unless you want a showy display, and to apreciate them, you'll be wanting a clear side panel in your case.

Your motherboard probably has two fan connectors, and I expect one is being used for the cooler fan. You can power one more fan from the motherboard, the others are powered from your main power supply, via the 'Molex' four pin connectors.

If you have no spare four pin connectors left on your PSU, 'splitters' can be obtained for sharing a power connection.

It's therefore obvious you should make sure what connector your fan has when you order it. Three pin connectors with three wires attached to fans usually denote the ability for you to monitor the fan speed in the BIOS and Motherboard Monitor (see above).

If you are able to mount a fan in the front of your case, do so, and have it blowing inwards. It's preferable for the fan to be able to suck air in from the front but if you don't want to disfgure your case by drilling holes in or knocking stuff out, the fan will still have some effect by moving the warm air to the exhaust fan at the rear of the case.

And talking of which, the rear fan should blow outwards. The exhaust fan has more effect on controlling temps than the input fan, so you may want to try a single fan exhausting first.

Also, if your heatsink cooler/fan on your CPU came with a thermal pad, it's well worth taking the cooler off and carefully cleaning off the surface of the cooler and anything left on your CPU core, where it mates.

Then use a good heat sink compound, such as Arctic Silver 3, to make good the connection between your cooler & CPU. Instructions for application come with the Arctic Silver and are also available online. Basically they say 'don't use much and don't spill any'.

Using a good compound can have a very positive effect on lowering temps.

Now then, which fan? Higher output (CFM) = cooler temps but more noise (dba). Lower output = higher temps but low noise. It's one of those things like Ohm's law, you can't have one without the other.

As for makes, Pabst and Panaflo are the best, in my opinion, and I've tried quite a few. The YS-Tech 80mm fan is also a goodie, a nice compromise between performance and noise and comes at a good price, around a fiver.

Here's some links. These places are way better than e-buyer. E-Buyer may be cheap but I've had a few nasty experiences with them.

www.theoverclockingstore.com

www.overclock.co.uk

www.kustompcs.co.uk

www.overclockers.co.uk

www.komplett.co.uk

I can recommend Kustom PC's, very good company and also theoverclockingstore.

P & P for Kustom is £2.00 per order, P & P for toc is free.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, all my machines are running at 100% CPU usage, I'm running a project 'crunching' proteins to try and find a cure for cancer, called the UD project. The machine I have running at 54C idles at 46C. My other two machines run maxxed out at under 50C.
 
An XP2000 should be able to reach about 90C before blowing up, but normal operation should be around 50C. Setting your cut-off alarm at 60 is too low...if u run a heavy graphics or cpu-intensive application then 60C is not unusual...especially if the temperature in your room is quite high.

the heatsinks/fans that come bundled with cpu's are cheap and will not offer best cooling. Invest in a copper hsf like a Coolermaster heat pipe or a thermalright slk 800 and u should be able to reduce the cpu temp a few degrees more than ur current hsf does.

Case fans only help to keep the ambient temp down - i.e. the general temperature in the room and the case itself. The hotter the ambient temp, the more difficult to get the cpu temp down. One or 2 fans at the front to draw cool air in, and one or two at the rear to draw warm air out are the usual configuration. A twin fan power supply has a second fan blowing down over the cpu and that can help too.

Overall, with that chip and cooler, I would set your alarm at around 70C and just not worry about it unless ur system shows obvious signs of instability.
 
novice here

Hi thanks for the info about the case fans.

I am going to buy one and see how easy it is to fit. AS postage and packing are free I don't have to pay any extra.

You talk about different fan directions. Incoming and outrgoing airflow.

How do you make them do that. Is it:

1. Dependent on how you mount the fan?

2. Dependent on the wiring?
 
Re: novice here

Originally posted by newbuilder
You talk about different fan directions. Incoming and outrgoing airflow.

How do you make them do that. Is it:

1. Dependent on how you mount the fan?

2. Dependent on the wiring?
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Case fans can easily be mounted is most chassis. Antec, Chieftec and those based around that basic design have plastic fan holders already installed and the fan just clips in. In other cases, there may be screw mounts or clip mounts. Clips are little black plastic stud type thingy's...should be obvious how they fit, but come back if you have any probs.

Direction of airflow is just a matter of making sure the fan is pointed the right way. I think i'm right in saying that the air flows forwards from the front of the fan, and the front is the side that carries the fan maker's logo on the centre. In other words, if you fit the fan at the back of the case to exhaust air outwards, you should be able to see the logo on the fan through the fan guard or slots when you look at the back of the case. Just point the logo in the direction u want the air to flow. I hope that's clear...I often confuse myself.

:D
 
thanks for the help my order should arrive tomorrow and I have ordered

2 of Panaflo 80mm High Volume Non Tailed
1 of Panaflo Tail 3Pin
2 of [OCS] Self-Tapping Fan Screws (4 Pack)
1 of Panaflo Tail 4Pin

Lets just say I am taking no risks at not having everything.

The prices are relatively cheap considering the damage it is going to possibly avoid.

Anyway I will let you know how it goes.
 
Accoring to Motherboard monitor (if i have configured the contraption correctly) I am now running at CPU 49-50C and System 30C. It starts up with the CPU in the 30's but even out at 49-50C.

Where can I buy the grease Arctic Silver and how do I go about cleaning the sticky pad off of the CPU and heatsink to try and get this temp down a bit more?
 
49 - 50C sounds better. Both case temp & CPU temp a little higher than desirable, but acceptable.

Expect CPU temperature to rise 3 or 4 degrees when you're maxxing out, with a game, for instance.

Arctic Silver can be purchased from all of the online stores listed in my earlier post above. It's about 6 or 7 quid.

To clean the sticky stuff off your cooler base, pick as much off with your fingernails, then perhaps use a blunt wooden object to try and remove some, finally using a solvent such as isopropyl alcohol or meths and a rag to clean all traces away.

The idea is not to scratch the surface.

When using arctic silver, btw, follow the instructions, it's imperative you don't spill any on the CPU surface where the exposed 'bridges' are.
 
Originally posted by floppybootstomp

When using arctic silver, btw, follow the instructions, it's imperative you don't spill any on the CPU surface where the exposed 'bridges' are.
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Novice here: What are the "bridges" and where are they.

Do you think I should invest in a better heatsink and what kind?

Thanks for the quick response.

I am getting quite a few temperatures readings but the 50C when setting up the Motherboard monitor was the highest.
 
The temps are about normal if u have a palomino core cpu...if it's a T'bred, then it should be running a little cooler. It will jump anything up to 10C more when under really heavy load.

Anyway, an old credit card or similar flat piece of plastic is ideal for scraping off the hs pad off without scratching the heatsink base.

A good purpose made solvent is 'Akasa' TIM-clean...it's a citrus-based solvent - very effective and safe for cleaing any pad residue.

A small syringe of Arctic silver 3 is around £5 if u shop around, but u get enough for 3 or 4 hsf installations.

Heatsink chooice is about balancing cooling and noise. I'd go for a full copper heatsink. Thermalright SLK800 or 900 are supposed to be the best but are expensive...Coolermaster do some good ones too that are cheaper than the thermalright ones. But u won't know how good it is until u fit it.
 
You can see pix of the CPU bridges Here

As you can see, you'd have to be fairly clumsy to get the Arctic Silver 3 on to them, as they're a fair distance from the CPU core. But best to mention, can't be too careful.

Coolers? As 1nteger pointed out the Thermalright 800 & 900 are probably the best AMD coolers on the market atm, but expensive. Also, the larger 900 model won't fit on some motherboards, you have to check their mobo compatibility chart.

I can recommend the Zalman copper finned cooler which comes with a 92mm fan mounted on a bracket and runs nice & quiet. Costs around £35.00.

I'm using one on a Palamino atm and it performs every bit as well as my Alpha 8045, which surprised me.

Perhaps a good mid price choice would be theThermaltake Volcano 7+ at around £21.00. There's a good choice of CPU coolers to view and/or purchase at all of the previous links to online stores I've supplied.

To sum up, yes, I think it would be worth getting a better CPU cooler. btw, try and avoid Delta fans, unless you really don't mind lots of noise. They work exceedingly well, but sound something like a wind tunnel in use.
 
Oh dear... my sisters PC has startup temps of 50oC for this CPU!!!

I'm working on it now :D
 
help!!!!!!!!!

I have downlaoded the latest motherboard monitor (version 5) and it asks you to select your motherboard. I did that and my temperatures are bad. My CPU iss 43C, my case is 25C but by CPU diode id 195C (what is the diode) and what can I do about this?

Or is it the Motherboard monitor that is giving false readings.

I have two cooling fans, my cpu fan, and a fan onthe motherboard,

Please help before I fry.
 
G'day all, found this thread very interesting. My wife and I both run 2200 AMD's and I found that both were running at 60 C. Admittedly, it is summer over here (Australia). I took my pc to the local pc shop and had fresh thermal compound applied to the heat sink, and a case fan installed. Now mine runs between 45 C to 50 C so will probably give my wife's pc the same treatment.
 
G'Day to you Stone, and welcome to the Forum :)

I just managed to lower the CPU temps of two of my machines simply by re-tensioning the retaining clip.

On a Thermalright AX-7 & SLK800 I just bent the clip up a little to make it clamp down harder, the SLK800 in particular was floating all over the place.

Results are 6C & 8C cooler, quite a big difference.

It is winter here, but central heating is on, and my three machines are running at: 40C (XP1900, SLK800); 42C (XP2400, Zalman copper finned cooler) and 42C (XP2600, AX-7).
 
On the AMD website they state in one of their case building specs for Athlons that front case fans make no difference at all to the performance in their research. The cpu then the outlet fan are the most important fans. Also you need to have a clear path for the air to travel around the case.

I've got a decent Antec case with a powerful 120mm back fan and copper heatsink fan that is spec'd for P4s.

According to my temp in Linux my CPU seems to at about 90% when on load for more than 5 minutes and mid 70s when not loaded.

I've bought parts designed with keeping my pc quiet and cool but still it's the bane of my pc. Some motherboards can now control the fans depending on temperature.

Leon.
 
damn this is one old post

abt the same time when I Joined prc!

amazing what u find when u search on google!
 
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