Matching CPU for 7600GT ?

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What would be the minimum CPU speed that would not be a
serious bottleneck when paired with a 7600 GT for gaming ?
I expect that there's really no such thing as an exact match,
but an exaggerated example may better illustrate what I'd
like to know :

E.g., the power of an FX-60 would be largely wasted for
gaming with an FX5200 card, while an 800MHz CPU wouldn't
be able to push a 6600GT to its limits. Between these
extremes, there would be a range of CPU/GPU combos where
neither would seriously hamper the other's capabilities.

For a price-conscious gamer with a limited budget, what
range of CPUs would be a reasonable match for a 7600 GT ?
TIA.
 
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the smart thing to do would be to buy the fastest dual core you can afford.
That way when you can afford a better vid card, you won't have to worry
about the processor slowing it down. PCI-Express will be around for a while.
Remember, games will be using X2 cpus, especially when vista has all its
bullshit worked out and you don't want to be left out in the cold with a
single core cpu. Just remember to install the dual core patches.
 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103029

the smart thing to do would be to buy the fastest dual core you can afford.
That way when you can afford a better vid card, you won't have to worry
about the processor slowing it down. PCI-Express will be around for a while.
Remember, games will be using X2 cpus, especially when vista has all its
bullshit worked out and you don't want to be left out in the cold with a
single core cpu. Just remember to install the dual core patches.


Actually it's just the opposite, games are the best use of a
single core CPU and dual core CPUs have the worst
performance per $ from dual cores. That will certainly
change over time, but over time any CPU bought now would
also seem less viable, so it's not really appropriate to
think of any particular merit with dual core for gaming
unless the CPU budget is high enough that it can buy more
than a lower end dual core CPU.

Actually, the smart thing to do would NOT be to buy the
fastest CPU you can afford at all, if buying a 7600GT. For
gaming it would be far better to buy a mid-low end CPU and
put the money saved towards a better video card, if there's
anywhere the money is best spent for gaming it is the card
not the CPU, assuming CPU is remotely modern.
 
What would be the minimum CPU speed that would not be a
serious bottleneck when paired with a 7600 GT for gaming ?

Depends on the game, the amount of eyecandy you "need", the
resolution of the monitor, etc. Too many variable to give
any kind of line-in-the-sand sort of answer.

If you just want a generic answer that isn't entirely
applicable to all situations then maybe any Athlon 64 @ 2GHz
or P4 @ 2.8GHz, or lesser CPU if monitor resolution is
higher than 1280x1024, as that will make the card more of a
bottleneck, but frankly if gaming at higher resolution than
that, it isn't the right card for modern games.


I expect that there's really no such thing as an exact match,
but an exaggerated example may better illustrate what I'd
like to know :

E.g., the power of an FX-60 would be largely wasted for
gaming with an FX5200 card, while an 800MHz CPU wouldn't
be able to push a 6600GT to its limits. Between these
extremes, there would be a range of CPU/GPU combos where
neither would seriously hamper the other's capabilities.

Ok, but let's be serious, nobody buys a 7600GT for an 800MHz
CPU. There is no certain point really, even if the CPU is a
bit of a bottleneck there is always going to be something
that is a bottleneck, there is never a perfect match of all
parts that reach their individual peak performance at the
same time.

I would generalize that a 7600GT, AGP version, would be
overkill for an Athlon XP 2200 or slower, but any system
that slow or slower has no purpose with a slower card
either, you need more to play modern games and if the game
isnt modern, even with a faster CPU you don't need the
7600GT.


For a price-conscious gamer with a limited budget, what
range of CPUs would be a reasonable match for a 7600 GT ?
TIA.

So you want to buy a CPU today, right? What support parts
do you have, like a motherboard or memory? The best choice
for a budget which would seem about right while keeping in
mind the relative value of the 7600GT would be an Athlon 64,
4000+, as they're available at Newegg.com for about $83
right now and usually overclock to about 3GHz on air without
excessive voltage if any vcore change is needed at all.

If you can budget a bit more, and don't have the board or
memory yet, get a Core2Duo like a 6400. It's about double
the price but will have more longer term benefits for
non-gaming. If this box is only for gaming not general use,
forget the Core2Duo and get the Athlon 64 but a faster video
card like a Geforce 7900 or ATI X1950. It may depend a bit
on sales and rebates too if you like to take advantage of
those, as the CPUs aren't discounted much but the video
cards can sometimes be up to 40-50% off.
 
Don't mind kony. He doesn't understand the concept of future proofing. He
also likes to reiterate everything I say in different words and say its his
idea's.
 
Don't mind kony. He doesn't understand the concept of future proofing. He
also likes to reiterate everything I say in different words and say its his
idea's.

Are you now aspiring to be a troll?

There is no such thing as future proofing a gaming box more
than a year or so. It is not lack of understanding to
recognize that within a given budget, you put the $ where it
benefits the most. Maybe you have different needs, but this
isn't your post, the requirements were already stated to a
certain extent and towards that end should be the replies,
not just what you would build for yourself if they gave you
more money than presently in the budget.
 
Then you had better inform Maximum PC, CPU and PC World magazines about your
wisdoms cause they recommend futrue proofing also, kony old buddy. Or should
I say Rod Speed?
 
Then you had better inform Maximum PC, CPU and PC World magazines about your
wisdoms cause they recommend futrue proofing also, kony old buddy. Or should
I say Rod Speed?

Thanks for trolling by.
 
What would be the minimum CPU speed that would not be a
serious bottleneck when paired with a 7600 GT for gaming ?

For a price-conscious gamer with a limited budget, what
range of CPUs would be a reasonable match for a 7600 GT ?

Thanks for the replies, and sorry about my late response. I
think I can now make an informed decision, though I haven't
made one yet.

Actually, the machine is for a friend who asked me to assemble
a gaming rig for his kids within a tight budget - surely a
low-end system to you folks. We live in such a location that
online stores like Newegg are out of reach, local shops are
expensive and offer a very limited choice. I usually send for
my needs from another city, and choices are limited even there.

OTOH, standards are lower here, and a lot of people are still
quite happily gaming with a 6100 IGP - at very low settings of
course.

Initially, I thought I'd go for something like a 6600GT and an
A64 3000+, but a 6600GT is no longer available at my sources.
A C2D e6300/7600GT combo exceeds their budget. I just might be
able to squeeze in an e6300 with a 7300, but I think a 7600GT
with a slower CPU would be better for gaming. Please correct
me if I'm wrong. Further comments and suggestions are more
than welcome.
 
Thanks for the replies, and sorry about my late response. I
think I can now make an informed decision, though I haven't
made one yet.

Actually, the machine is for a friend who asked me to assemble
a gaming rig for his kids within a tight budget - surely a
low-end system to you folks. We live in such a location that
online stores like Newegg are out of reach, local shops are
expensive and offer a very limited choice. I usually send for
my needs from another city, and choices are limited even there.

OTOH, standards are lower here, and a lot of people are still
quite happily gaming with a 6100 IGP - at very low settings of
course.

Initially, I thought I'd go for something like a 6600GT and an
A64 3000+, but a 6600GT is no longer available at my sources.
A C2D e6300/7600GT combo exceeds their budget. I just might be
able to squeeze in an e6300 with a 7300, but I think a 7600GT
with a slower CPU would be better for gaming. Please correct
me if I'm wrong. Further comments and suggestions are more
than welcome.

Yes, for gaming a 7600GT with a lower cost CPU will be a
lot better. 7600GT isn't always that much more expensive
than a 6600GT though, the last one I bought was about $80
USD after a rebate. You can find 7600GS for a little bit
less, but even a 7600GT is going to be the primary
bottleneck for gaming on an otherwise modest new system (say
an $80 Athlon 64 & 1GB of system memory), on such a system
the next thing to upgrade for the most performance benefit
would still be the video card.
 
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